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meecrofilm wrote:Yeah. People need to stop talking about Sundin. And Kovalchuk for that matter. It's a totally bogus rumor.
All Feaster said was that it may be more beneficial for Atlanta to trade Kovalchuk now instead of when his contract is up. He didn't mention any potential deal, nor did he mention the Pens.
KG wrote:I know Sundin is a center: This allows you to do this:
Crosby/Malkin/Fedotenko
Sundin/Sykora/Satan
Staal/Talbot/Dupuis
Zigo/Kennedy/Cooke
A lot of depth...
Regarding the Vancouver offer: It is a great money offer for Sundin. But all we keep hearing about is Mats to play for a winner. So lets see if he would take a 1 year deal with his chance to win...
Angle wrote:I doubt the Pens would go after Kovaluchuk. Even dumping a potentially large salary of Staal, they'll have to pay Ilya big bucks (at least Crosby money and if he goes on the open market, maybe 8 figures?)
The only way RS should consider Kovalchuk would be by signing him before the trade is made.
AlexPKeaton wrote:KG wrote:I know Sundin is a center: This allows you to do this:
Crosby/Malkin/Fedotenko
Sundin/Sykora/Satan
Staal/Talbot/Dupuis
Zigo/Kennedy/Cooke
A lot of depth...
Regarding the Vancouver offer: It is a great money offer for Sundin. But all we keep hearing about is Mats to play for a winner. So lets see if he would take a 1 year deal with his chance to win...
I'd rather this than make a huge trade.
Defence21 wrote:AlexPKeaton wrote:KG wrote:I know Sundin is a center: This allows you to do this:
Crosby/Malkin/Fedotenko
Sundin/Sykora/Satan
Staal/Talbot/Dupuis
Zigo/Kennedy/Cooke
A lot of depth...
Regarding the Vancouver offer: It is a great money offer for Sundin. But all we keep hearing about is Mats to play for a winner. So lets see if he would take a 1 year deal with his chance to win...
I'd rather this than make a huge trade.
But how will the Penguins fit such a signing under the cap? According to Cap Central, the Penguins have $754,933 left under the cap. That's not even enough to nab Shanahan at this point, let alone Sundin.
blackjack68 wrote:Completely baseless rumor gets nine pages...nice.
blackjack68 wrote:Completely baseless rumor gets nine pages...nice.
KG wrote:Defence21 wrote:But how will the Penguins fit such a signing under the cap? According to Cap Central, the Penguins have $754,933 left under the cap. That's not even enough to nab Shanahan at this point, let alone Sundin.
Ahh, it can be done...Burke does it all the time in Anaheim...Sydor, Gill, Satan are all moveable parts if they have to clear cap space...Even if nobody trades for them, or claims them off waivers, the pens can still send them to the minors to get rid of the cap hit....Accept for Sydor, how is over 35...horrible deal...
Noise wrote:As much as Kovalchuk may be the best possible winger for Sid out there, I feel something like this would be prudent:
wait until draft day
Staal + Goligoski + a 2nd for a 1st rounder, a 3rd rounder, and 2 guys with 2 years on their entry level deals either coming off their rookie year or ready to begin it.
with the money saved:
sign a veteran 3rd line center
sign two 6/7 defensemen
sign some scoring wingers- they'll be plenty of good ones available.
Defence21 wrote:KG wrote:Defence21 wrote:But how will the Penguins fit such a signing under the cap? According to Cap Central, the Penguins have $754,933 left under the cap. That's not even enough to nab Shanahan at this point, let alone Sundin.
Ahh, it can be done...Burke does it all the time in Anaheim...Sydor, Gill, Satan are all moveable parts if they have to clear cap space...Even if nobody trades for them, or claims them off waivers, the pens can still send them to the minors to get rid of the cap hit....Accept for Sydor, how is over 35...horrible deal...
Yes, Burke does it all the time...but where has that gotten the Ducks? They won a Cup, yes, but that was before he started shuffling his roster to create cap space. It's not the way to run a team. Dumping players because the make money makes no sense (Gill, Satan). Dumping players because they don't fit in with the team makes sense (Sydor). The grass isn't always greener.
Mongoose87 wrote:Also, call it a hunch, but Shero isn't giving up on Staal so soon.
Defence21 wrote:KG wrote:Defence21 wrote:But how will the Penguins fit such a signing under the cap? According to Cap Central, the Penguins have $754,933 left under the cap. That's not even enough to nab Shanahan at this point, let alone Sundin.
Ahh, it can be done...Burke does it all the time in Anaheim...Sydor, Gill, Satan are all moveable parts if they have to clear cap space...Even if nobody trades for them, or claims them off waivers, the pens can still send them to the minors to get rid of the cap hit....Accept for Sydor, how is over 35...horrible deal...
Yes, Burke does it all the time...but where has that gotten the Ducks? They won a Cup, yes, but that was before he started shuffling his roster to create cap space. It's not the way to run a team. Dumping players because the make money makes no sense (Gill, Satan). Dumping players because they don't fit in with the team makes sense (Sydor). The grass isn't always greener.
KG wrote:blackjack68 wrote:Completely baseless rumor gets nine pages...nice.
It's fun to speculate...What else you want to talk about? Talbot bringing back the FUMANCHU?
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