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Re: Whitney traded to Ducks for Kunitz and Tangradi

Postby The Current One on Thu Feb 26, 2009 1:25 pm

The way I see it, Kunitz can't be any worse than Dupuis or Minard on Sid's wing, and he has scored 20+ goals in the past. Seems to have decent speed, but for some reason I thought he was bigger than 5' 9".

Getting rid of Whitney was a no-brainer. He was killing the Pens as they're trying to make the playoffs, and I didn't see his game improving anytime soon. Tangradi looks to be a good prospect, excepting the fact that he's from Philthadelphia.
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Re: Whitney traded to Ducks for Kunitz and Tangradi

Postby TheHammer24 on Thu Feb 26, 2009 1:25 pm

Ducks fans seem as though we won the trade!
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Re: Whitney traded to Ducks for Kunitz and Tangradi

Postby Jesse on Thu Feb 26, 2009 1:25 pm

Tangradi struggles with some confidence issues, but he's a grinding power-forward. Not a great shot, mostly a garbage guy. Got some good moves in his bag. Overall, he just bowls people over. Not only is he tall, he's got some mass to him. Sees the ice will. Really gets in the boards to battle. Will drop the gloves when necessary. Doesn't really take well to getting beaten to a puck.

Overall, not much of a shooter. Real north/south kid. Actually has good awarness and vision. Always hypes his own playmaking ability, which is actually quite underrated.
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Re: Whitney traded to Ducks for Kunitz and Tangradi

Postby MicP on Thu Feb 26, 2009 1:26 pm

Matthew Monstar wrote:Thank god Ryan Whitney is gone. No more soft play, giveaways or mental mistakes. Dude had no passion in his game, besides for the "backdoor play".

LGP is going to lose about a 100 post a day now.
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Re: Whitney traded to Ducks for Kunitz and Tangradi

Postby Armyrulez on Thu Feb 26, 2009 1:26 pm

Jesse wrote:Tangradi is instantly the best power-forward in the Penguins prospect pool right now.


I immediately looked for your post Jesse, great, great news!!
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Re: Whitney traded to Ducks for Kunitz and Tangradi

Postby penny lane on Thu Feb 26, 2009 1:26 pm

brwi wrote:
Matthew Monstar wrote:So where exactly was Kunitz playing, line-wise for the ducks?

Where do you think he'll play for the pens?


He was playing mostly on the 2nd line with the Ducks, though I think he started the year on the 1st line. He plays bigger than his just his size, has a Cup, and brings some solid leadership along with his pretty good stats. I can see him with Malkin and Sykora right away. I think Fedo likely will stay with Crosby and who knows who will be on the other wing? Dupuis maybe.

Brad


Other news, Sidney not at practice today. :( When on ice, Sid gets the new toy winger.
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Re: Whitney traded to Ducks for Kunitz and Tangradi

Postby brwi on Thu Feb 26, 2009 1:27 pm

npv708 wrote:Oh. And good luck Ryan, best of luck to you in Anaheim. You do have to feel bad for him in the sense that if the Ducks trade Pronger, than Anaheim fans might expect to have whitney be that kind of player. That could be rough for him but I think he'll do just fine.


I think Whitney will do fine in that environment. Now, if he had been moved to a Canadian team or NYR, look out. Maybe he'll regain his offense and his defense won't be so noticeable in the future. I have my doubts about that, but good luck Ryan Whitney against some of those Western teams you'll be seeing more of.

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Re: Whitney traded to Ducks for Kunitz and Tangradi

Postby Matthew Monstar on Thu Feb 26, 2009 1:28 pm

Of course eklund has this E5, It was announced by a real media outlet and he picks up on it and claims it.

And did he have any knowledge of this before? I dont think so.
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Re: Whitney traded to Ducks for Kunitz and Tangradi

Postby WHITEY1 on Thu Feb 26, 2009 1:28 pm

Sid needs to get healthy quick if he wants to gel with this guy for the rest of the playoff push.
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Re: Whitney traded to Ducks for Kunitz and Tangradi

Postby Why So Serious? on Thu Feb 26, 2009 1:28 pm

Is Tangradi gonna go to WBS? Or stay with the big club?
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Re: Whitney traded to Ducks for Kunitz and Tangradi

Postby pcm on Thu Feb 26, 2009 1:28 pm

Kunitz is now our the 3rd leading hitter on our team. (I think)
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Re: Whitney traded to Ducks for Kunitz and Tangradi

Postby Admin on Thu Feb 26, 2009 1:28 pm

MicP wrote:
Matthew Monstar wrote:Thank god Ryan Whitney is gone. No more soft play, giveaways or mental mistakes. Dude had no passion in his game, besides for the "backdoor play".

LGP is going to lose about a 100 post a day now.

Seriously, this is very bad for business. :P
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Re: Whitney traded to Ducks for Kunitz and Tangradi

Postby Mongoose87 on Thu Feb 26, 2009 1:28 pm

brwi wrote:
npv708 wrote:Oh. And good luck Ryan, best of luck to you in Anaheim. You do have to feel bad for him in the sense that if the Ducks trade Pronger, than Anaheim fans might expect to have whitney be that kind of player. That could be rough for him but I think he'll do just fine.


I think Whitney will do fine in that environment. Now, if he had been moved to a Canadian team or NYR, look out. Maybe he'll regain his offense and his defense won't be so noticeable in the future. I have my doubts about that, but good luck Ryan Whitney against some of those Western teams you'll be seeing more of.

Brad

Put him with Pronger or Niedermayer and I think he defense will be a lot less noticeable.
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Re: Whitney traded to Ducks for Kunitz and Tangradi

Postby pfim on Thu Feb 26, 2009 1:28 pm

Why So Serious? wrote:Is Tangradi gonna go to WBS? Or stay with the big club?


He's staying in the OHL.
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Re: Whitney traded to Ducks for Kunitz and Tangradi

Postby MicP on Thu Feb 26, 2009 1:29 pm

pfim wrote:
Mongoose87 wrote:This is a good deal, so long as Whitney never maxes out to his potential. If he improves and becomes decent, I like it. If Whitney ever truly finds himself, though, we may regret this. Of course, if Tangradi is as good as he looks, we may not care :D


I don't like the trade in that he's probably selling Whitney at his lowest value. They get decent production from Kunitz and a guy who probably won't be ready to seriously contribute for 2-3 years, if he does. I'm not disappointed in moving Whitney, but I'm not doing cartwheels over the return either.

If his poor play would continue next season, his value would drop even lower. I think it was a fair deal at this time.
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Re: Whitney traded to Ducks for Kunitz and Tangradi

Postby Armyrulez on Thu Feb 26, 2009 1:29 pm

Why So Serious? wrote:Is Tangradi gonna go to WBS? Or stay with the big club?


He will stay with his OHL team, when their season is done, on to WBS.
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Re: Whitney traded to Ducks for Kunitz and Tangradi

Postby slappybrown on Thu Feb 26, 2009 1:30 pm

Pens4Life wrote:I like the trade,especially to get a big hope like Tangradi
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdis ... ?pid=96610

We get a decent winger in Kunitz,but i really dont like 3.75mills per year.. Overpaid -but i hope he can be at least 25 goals per season scorer
Whitney was surplus on our defense and his play was the reason he was traded,otherwise it would be Goligoski who would be gone..


Seriously guys, 20-30 goals a year is 3mill plus in the NHL. I mean we aer all looking for Sykora to get in that range, and while I am not saying that Kunitz is as good as Sykora, once Sykora signs his new deal, that's what he is going to cost. You aren't getting proven 20+ goal scorers who are 28 for less than 3mm/year.
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Re: Whitney traded to Ducks for Kunitz and Tangradi

Postby MicP on Thu Feb 26, 2009 1:31 pm

Matthew Monstar wrote:Of course eklund has this E5, It was announced by a real media outlet and he picks up on it and claims it.

And did he have any knowledge of this before? I dont think so.

I didn't see it after I saw the trade posted here and I did look.
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Re: Whitney traded to Ducks for Kunitz and Tangradi

Postby Hawkeynut on Thu Feb 26, 2009 1:31 pm

I really like this deal. We traded from our strength (offensive dmen) and helped our weakness (top 6 forward and prospect forward with some grit).

All-in-all Shero did a good one here. Goes to show you how you can quickly fall out of favor with an injury and someone else proves themselves as being worthy, the case of Gogo doing a good job of filling in for Whits.

Best of luck Whitney!
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Re: Whitney traded to Ducks for Kunitz and Tangradi

Postby rosey6629 on Thu Feb 26, 2009 1:31 pm

Why So Serious? wrote:Is Tangradi gonna go to WBS? Or stay with the big club?


uhhhh.... hes in the Ontario Hockey League.
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Re: Whitney traded to Ducks for Kunitz and Tangradi

Postby Why So Serious? on Thu Feb 26, 2009 1:31 pm

Armyrulez wrote:
Why So Serious? wrote:Is Tangradi gonna go to WBS? Or stay with the big club?


He will stay with his OHL team, when their season is done, on to WBS.


Thanks. Didn't know much about this kid. Looks promising though. I like the trade.
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Re: Whitney traded to Ducks for Kunitz and Tangradi

Postby MKRA on Thu Feb 26, 2009 1:31 pm

We've got to be honest and realistic about this. Whitney was our best, most tradable asset. Shero was able to obtain immediate help in Kunitz and was able to get a much needed chip for the future. He simply could not afford not to get good prospect for Whitney, given the Salary cap structure. I'd have loved a first line winger as much as the next guy, but I don't know how we could have fit one within the cap.

This rates as a good trade in my book.
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Re: Whitney traded to Ducks for Kunitz and Tangradi

Postby Ron` on Thu Feb 26, 2009 1:32 pm

Jesse wrote:Tangradi struggles with some confidence issues, but he's a grinding power-forward. Not a great shot, mostly a garbage guy. Got some good moves in his bag. Overall, he just bowls people over. Not only is he tall, he's got some mass to him. Sees the ice will. Really gets in the boards to battle. Will drop the gloves when necessary. Doesn't really take well to getting beaten to a puck.

Overall, not much of a shooter. Real north/south kid. Actually has good awarness and vision. Always hypes his own playmaking ability, which is actually quite underrated.
He's wearing the C too. If the link works. Select gallery, photos by name

http://activeimages.ifp3.com/root/Activ ... /main2.cfm
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Re: Whitney traded to Ducks for Kunitz and Tangradi

Postby npv708 on Thu Feb 26, 2009 1:32 pm

Armyrulez wrote:
Why So Serious? wrote:Is Tangradi gonna go to WBS? Or stay with the big club?


He will stay with his OHL team, when their season is done, on to WBS.


Duck Fans are furious with Tangradi being in this trade. He's basically number two in the OHL behind Tavares. i went on the ducks boards to see what they were saying and they were saying that Kunitz had been on the 2nd line, im not sure with who, but that Tangradi was supposed to be the real deal.
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Re: Whitney traded to Ducks for Kunitz and Tangradi

Postby Steve on Thu Feb 26, 2009 1:33 pm

Admin wrote:
MicP wrote:
Matthew Monstar wrote:Thank god Ryan Whitney is gone. No more soft play, giveaways or mental mistakes. Dude had no passion in his game, besides for the "backdoor play".

LGP is going to lose about a 100 post a day now.

Seriously, this is very bad for business. :P


I think Sid and Yeo will pick up the slack for the departures of Whit and MT...
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