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ziggystardust wrote:Pens4Life wrote:Why? He is a cheap right D-man,who still can help us in next seasons..
Play good offensive game,and we need 3. (Gonchar,Whitney)
He is better than Cross,Cairns,Odelein,Melichar,Scuderi...
I would trade him for a 7th round pick.
He's horrific.
No, it's seven rounds now. They drafted Joe Vitale with last year's seventh rounder.NIN wrote:They dont have a 7th round anymore, it only goes down to 6th.
Spiral Architect wrote:No, it's seven rounds now. They drafted Joe Vitale with last year's seventh rounder.NIN wrote:They dont have a 7th round anymore, it only goes down to 6th.
I'm not saying the Jackman isn't an adventure in his own end, but what defenseman is on the Pens roster that hasn't been a liability more often than not. My pro-Jackman stance has never been that he isn't bad defensively, it's that he at least does something to compensate for it in the way of PP production. When he first got sat down earlier in the year he was a point a game guy. I seriously doubt he'd have kept that up over a full year, but he was producing.
pfim wrote:I'm not saying the Jackman isn't an adventure in his own end, but what defenseman is on the Pens roster that hasn't been a liability more often than not. My pro-Jackman stance has never been that he isn't bad defensively, it's that he at least does something to compensate for it in the way of PP production. When he first got sat down earlier in the year he was a point a game guy. I seriously doubt he'd have kept that up over a full year, but he was producing.
I don't think he does enough to compensate for his defensive "prowess." And that's saying something considering his point production.
He won't be on this team when it is any good.
MrKnowNothing wrote:pfim wrote:I'm not saying the Jackman isn't an adventure in his own end, but what defenseman is on the Pens roster that hasn't been a liability more often than not. My pro-Jackman stance has never been that he isn't bad defensively, it's that he at least does something to compensate for it in the way of PP production. When he first got sat down earlier in the year he was a point a game guy. I seriously doubt he'd have kept that up over a full year, but he was producing.
I don't think he does enough to compensate for his defensive "prowess." And that's saying something considering his point production.
He won't be on this team when it is any good.
Exactly.
We need to worry about getting rid of the Jackman's on this team right now, not who we should keep around because they might be ok bottom pairing guys.
Solid bottom pairing guys are a dime a dozen around the league. Witness the Pens who are pretty much employing a whole defense of them.
They need to clear out the quantity and bring in some quality.