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PITT/WVU UNofficial Thread

Postby Peter on Mon Feb 27, 2006 8:27 pm

anyone?
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Postby Peter on Mon Feb 27, 2006 8:53 pm

Nice discussion folks!

I now know that the mayor is right, this IS a basketball town. NBA would do well here. Screw the pens.
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Postby Rychster on Mon Feb 27, 2006 9:19 pm

Go Pitt :)

I just checked the score and as usual, WV is hitting all 3's. I can't believe they attempted that many but it's the reason why Pitt is losing this game so far. Hope they can reverse the trend and come out strong in the second.
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Postby Rychster on Mon Feb 27, 2006 9:38 pm

What happened to Gray? 3-5? Geesh. No wonder we are losing. This deep bench better turn it on and steal one here.
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Postby ExPatriatePen on Mon Feb 27, 2006 9:50 pm

Lets Go MOUNTAINEERS!
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Postby ExPatriatePen on Mon Feb 27, 2006 9:51 pm

Peter wrote:Nice discussion folks!

I now know that the mayor is right, this IS a basketball town. NBA would do well here. Screw the pens.


Only if they forgo the Black and Gold for Gold and Blue!
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Postby pfim on Mon Feb 27, 2006 9:58 pm

If you're an official, you can't like this game...I know I'm biased, but c'mon.
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Postby ExPatriatePen on Mon Feb 27, 2006 10:00 pm

How about them 'Eers!!!

I gotta get tickets at MSG for the Big East Tourney.

Hey, I just bought a new couch... I still have the old one here.. ya think I could?????
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Postby pfim on Mon Feb 27, 2006 10:01 pm

Don't burn dat couch now, y'here. Storm the court? Pretty weak.
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Postby ExPatriatePen on Mon Feb 27, 2006 10:04 pm

pfim wrote: Storm the court? Pretty weak.


Weak? Come on... give us our Props...

By the way, I get a real chuckle outta Pitt fans making fun of couch burnings... I read where after superbowl sunday the Pittsburgh Fire Department had issues with burnng couches in Oakland! :shock:

http://pittsburghlive.com/x/tribune-rev ... 19657.html

http://www.poconorecord.com/apps/pbcs.d ... /602090302
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Postby pfim on Mon Feb 27, 2006 10:15 pm

ExPatriatePen wrote:
pfim wrote: Storm the court? Pretty weak.


Weak? Come on... give us our Props...

By the way, I get a real chuckle outta Pitt fans making fun of couch burnings... I read where after superbowl sunday the Pittsburgh Fire Department had issues with burnng couches in Oakland! :shock:

http://pittsburghlive.com/x/tribune-rev ... 19657.html


It was an homage. There are your props.

Storming your court after beating the 9th ranked team when you're the 18th ranked team is weak.
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Postby ExPatriatePen on Mon Feb 27, 2006 10:17 pm

pfim wrote:
Storming your court after beating the 9th ranked team when you're the 18th ranked team is weak.


You obviously didn't see the game between the same two teams at the Pete a on Feb 9th. The then 14th ranked Panthers beat the then 9th ranked Mountaineers and pandamonium abounded.

You Pitt fans have a real 'holier than thou' thing going when it comes to WVU don't you?
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Postby pfim on Mon Feb 27, 2006 10:26 pm

ExPatriatePen wrote:
pfim wrote:
Storming your court after beating the 9th ranked team when you're the 18th ranked team is weak.


You obviously didn't see the game between the same two teams at the Pete a on Feb 9th. The then 14th ranked Panthers beat the then 9th ranked Mountaineers and pandamonium abounded.

You Pitt fans have a real 'holier than thou' thing going when it comes to WVU don't you?


Yes. I don't remember anyone storming the court. Hopefully we'll see you guys in MSG.
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Postby MrKnowNothing on Mon Feb 27, 2006 11:13 pm

pfim is right. Storming the court in this situation is lame. I like Pitt, but they aren't my favorite college team. I didn't even see this game, but the victory did not call for a storming of the court. Had this been a Big East championship or semifinal game, ok, I can see that.
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Postby Goalie on Tue Feb 28, 2006 12:16 am

MrKnowNothing wrote:pfim is right. Storming the court in this situation is lame. I like Pitt, but they aren't my favorite college team. I didn't even see this game, but the victory did not call for a storming of the court. Had this been a Big East championship or semifinal game, ok, I can see that.


Storming the court/field is pretty much lame in any situation, act like you have been there before, plus its extremely dangerous. Wow, do I sound old.

Anyways, I think the fans in WVU stormed the court more as a celebration of the senior class that played its final home game tonight than just beating Pitt.
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Postby pfim on Tue Feb 28, 2006 12:26 am

Goalie wrote:
MrKnowNothing wrote:pfim is right. Storming the court in this situation is lame. I like Pitt, but they aren't my favorite college team. I didn't even see this game, but the victory did not call for a storming of the court. Had this been a Big East championship or semifinal game, ok, I can see that.


Storming the court/field is pretty much lame in any situation, act like you have been there before, plus its extremely dangerous. Wow, do I sound old.

Anyways, I think the fans in WVU stormed the court more as a celebration of the senior class that played its final home game tonight than just beating Pitt.


You're not old, I wouldn't have done it 10 years ago, and I wouldn't do it now...

I think they were celebrating the fact that they're guaranteed not to see Nova or UConn in the Big East Quarterfinals.
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Postby Goalie on Tue Feb 28, 2006 12:36 am

pfim wrote:
Goalie wrote:
MrKnowNothing wrote:pfim is right. Storming the court in this situation is lame. I like Pitt, but they aren't my favorite college team. I didn't even see this game, but the victory did not call for a storming of the court. Had this been a Big East championship or semifinal game, ok, I can see that.


Storming the court/field is pretty much lame in any situation, act like you have been there before, plus its extremely dangerous. Wow, do I sound old.

Anyways, I think the fans in WVU stormed the court more as a celebration of the senior class that played its final home game tonight than just beating Pitt.


You're not old, I wouldn't have done it 10 years ago, and I wouldn't do it now...

I think they were celebrating the fact that they're guaranteed not to see Nova or UConn in the Big East Quarterfinals.


The bye will be pretty huge too, its hard to play 4 games in 4 nights in any tournament situation and match up with someone who has played one less game on that third or fourth night and come away victorious.

As a side note on another thread the Bryce Jordan Center was built for $55 million in 1995 so if that $35 million dollar estimate was in 1992 that would be very plausible.

So how far do you see Pitt going this year? I have not had nearly enough time to watch enough college basketball to feel like I have a real chance in my bracket so I will ask for help from people who have seen a lot of Pitt this year.

I also have heard a lot of talk lately about how the move to two guard has been beneficial to Krauser and Pitt this year, I always thought in the past that Pitt would have been better off if Krauser had the ball less but that he was probably the point guard out of necessity. Like I said though I have seen very little of Pitt this year so I could be way off on that thought.
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Postby pfim on Tue Feb 28, 2006 1:00 am

So how far do you see Pitt going this year? I have not had nearly enough time to watch enough college basketball to feel like I have a real chance in my bracket so I will ask for help from people who have seen a lot of Pitt this year.

I also have heard a lot of talk lately about how the move to two guard has been beneficial to Krauser and Pitt this year, I always thought in the past that Pitt would have been better off if Krauser had the ball less but that he was probably the point guard out of necessity. Like I said though I have seen very little of Pitt this year so I could be way off on that thought.


To state the obvious, they have exceeded expecations. I thought they were a tournament team from the beginning, a tough, experienced PG and a 7 footer are a tough duo in in college basketball, and they had the role players to help them.


This is tough to say because Krauser may be my favorite player in the post-Willard era, but this team will be better next year when they figure out an 8 or 9 man rotation (assuming Gray stays his last year). Krauser had a lot to do with tonight's loss, he pressed way too much in crucial situations, which really isn't like him.

Still, I don't think there's a less appreciated senior leader in college basketball than Carl Krauser. People see the X and the hot dogging and get the wrong idea about Carl Krauser. I truly think he is the bridge between the rebuilding of the program and what lies ahead of this team. He bought into Howland, Dixon and Knight and has tought more talented players how to play the game.

Sorry, bit of a tangent...This year, I think they matchup favorably with teams like Nova, WVU and Duke, because they can throw guard after guard after their best players. Starting Degroat has been a mistake for most of the season, I think Dixon is trying to reward a good kid from a tough background who works hard everyday, he is really better coming off the bench. I think they will struggle against teams who have a strong front court game, like an Iowa or OSU, due to depth. I think their ranking is justified, and they will advance two rounds in the tournament considering the teams they will be facing will likely be guard-oriented.
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give me a break

Postby rasbatch on Tue Feb 28, 2006 10:15 am

so the students I'm gonna say ran onto the court, not really STORMED it. Ok this wasn't some great win, but it was the last home game, senior night of a team that has given students alot to cheer about going back to last year. It wasn't mayham and destruction it was a relatively civil celebration. I'm 40 soon to be 41 and there wasn't anything wrong with what went on. So fix yourself a nice cup of warm milk, take your gerital, fire up your electric blanket and curl up with a nice lawrence welk video cause that was tame not lame. I'm gonna have to agree with Expat there really is this holy than thou attitude when it comes to WVU from Pitt fans, and I guess that helps make it a great rivalry. I give you this Pitt is a much better team than was expected this year, with credit due to Dixon.
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Re: give me a break

Postby ExPatriatePen on Tue Feb 28, 2006 10:43 am

rasbatch wrote:so the students I'm gonna say ran onto the court, not really STORMED it. Ok this wasn't some great win, but it was the last home game, senior night of a team that has given students alot to cheer about going back to last year. It wasn't mayham and destruction it was a relatively civil celebration. I'm 40 soon to be 41 and there wasn't anything wrong with what went on. So fix yourself a nice cup of warm milk, take your gerital, fire up your electric blanket and curl up with a nice lawrence welk video cause that was tame not lame. I'm gonna have to agree with Expat there really is this holy than thou attitude when it comes to WVU from Pitt fans, and I guess that helps make it a great rivalry. I give you this Pitt is a much better team than was expected this year, with credit due to Dixon.


You betcha. Pitt gets props from me on having a season that far exceeded anyone's expectations. (Even most Pitt fans).

WVU is going to have their hands full next year because they lose 4 of their starting 5 and Patrick B. off the bench as the 6th man too. Pitt will most likely dominate them next year.

Having gven Pitt it's props, it's amazing to me the antimosity Pitt fans have toward WVU. Remember, WVU athletics (And Marshall) are the only real sports the people of WV can call their own. They get passionate about their teams. I love that. WVU fans passion is what first made me a WVU fan over 25 years ago. (I went to Pitt night school while working at Mellon in the early 80's - meanwhile my younger brother attended WVU, there was no question which program was more fun to root for - I spent all my weekends with my brother and his friends in Morgantown!)

The celebration in Morgantown last night was without incident. Like Rasbatch said, It was an honest celebration a win against a rival, an important three seed in the Big East, and mostly, celebrating the Senior class of a team that's given the fans YEARS (Not just one) of enjoyment.

I'm happy for these guys, but I'm sorry to see the regular season end. This crew has given me reason to celebrate, (and cry) over the past couple of seasons. I wish them the best of luck.
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Postby Draftnik on Tue Feb 28, 2006 11:22 am

pfim wrote:This is tough to say because Krauser may be my favorite player in the post-Willard era, but this team will be better next year when they figure out an 8 or 9 man rotation (assuming Gray stays his last year). Krauser had a lot to do with tonight's loss, he pressed way too much in crucial situations, which really isn't like him.

Still, I don't think there's a less appreciated senior leader in college basketball than Carl Krauser. People see the X and the hot dogging and get the wrong idea about Carl Krauser. I truly think he is the bridge between the rebuilding of the program and what lies ahead of this team. He bought into Howland, Dixon and Knight and has tought more talented players how to play the game.

Sorry, bit of a tangent...This year, I think they matchup favorably with teams like Nova, WVU and Duke, because they can throw guard after guard after their best players. Starting Degroat has been a mistake for most of the season, I think Dixon is trying to reward a good kid from a tough background who works hard everyday, he is really better coming off the bench. I think they will struggle against teams who have a strong front court game, like an Iowa or OSU, due to depth. I think their ranking is justified, and they will advance two rounds in the tournament considering the teams they will be facing will likely be guard-oriented.


I'm a big Krauser fan. I don't think Pitt fans realize how constrained he was by the Howland/Dixon offense the past few years. The way they milked the shot clock put him in a no win situation. This year things have opened up and he and others have looked much better since they are able to run the offense and take the first good shot instead of trying to shorten the game. The change in style was necessary if Pitt was going to keep recruiting talented players.

I think their improved offense gives them a chance to break the Sweet 16 barrier this year.
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Postby Kicksave on Tue Feb 28, 2006 6:34 pm

Peter strikes again.
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