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Re: Movie

Postby Kraftster on Fri Jul 24, 2009 9:11 am

Malkamaniac wrote:
pittsoccer33 wrote:just got back from redbox with watchmen, ill rip it when i head to bed and return it on my way to work tomorrow



I did the same thing, that movie is a long long long movie. Was strangely good however.


Pirates.
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Re: Movie

Postby newarenanow on Fri Jul 24, 2009 9:14 am

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Re: Movie

Postby Malkamaniac on Fri Jul 24, 2009 9:16 am

Pirates.


There is a difference between Pirating and Freeloading.

Pirates make a profit many times over from what they copy.
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Re: Movie

Postby Kraftster on Fri Jul 24, 2009 9:21 am

Malkamaniac wrote:
Pirates.


There is a difference between Pirating and Freeloading.

Pirates make a profit many times over from what they copy.


"Piracy is the unauthorized taking, copying or use of copyrighted materials without permission." (per http://www.mpaa.org/piracy.asp)

Even if "piracy" is inaccurate, "freeloading" has way too passive a connotation to be a fair choice of words.
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Re: Movie

Postby Malkamaniac on Fri Jul 24, 2009 9:24 am

Kraftster wrote:
Malkamaniac wrote:
Pirates.


There is a difference between Pirating and Freeloading.

Pirates make a profit many times over from what they copy.


"Piracy is the unauthorized taking, copying or use of copyrighted materials without permission." (per http://www.mpaa.org/piracy.asp)

Even if "piracy" is inaccurate, "freeloading" has way too passive a connotation to be a fair choice of words.



har har then matey.
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Re: Movie

Postby the wicked child on Fri Jul 24, 2009 9:43 am

I think I am in the minority that thought The Watchmen was pretty lame, for the most part. I really only enjoyed the stuff with Rorschach.
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Re: Movie

Postby pittsoccer33 on Fri Jul 24, 2009 9:44 am

the wicked child wrote:I think I am in the minority that thought The Watchmen was pretty lame, for the most part. I really only enjoyed the stuff with Rorschach.


I agree with this. Everything he said and did was extremely cool.
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Re: Movie

Postby Kraftster on Fri Jul 24, 2009 9:54 am

Malkamaniac wrote:
Kraftster wrote:
Malkamaniac wrote:
There is a difference between Pirating and Freeloading.

Pirates make a profit many times over from what they copy.


"Piracy is the unauthorized taking, copying or use of copyrighted materials without permission." (per http://www.mpaa.org/piracy.asp)

Even if "piracy" is inaccurate, "freeloading" has way too passive a connotation to be a fair choice of words.



har har then matey.


Haha, you may be a criminal, but that is a high quality reply post right there.
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Re: Movie

Postby AlexPKeaton on Fri Jul 24, 2009 10:07 am

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Letang Is The Truth wrote:the prestige is one of my fave movies it is so solid. i have never made it all the way through the illusionist but i love ed norton he is a terrific actor.

E. Norton > C. Bale > all


am I in the minority that thinks Cristian Bale sucks?


I agree but we are definitely in the minority. I wouldn't say sucks just way overrated.
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Re: Movie

Postby Kraftster on Fri Jul 24, 2009 10:18 am

Ouch. The only gripe about Bale that I even entertain as being legitimate is the Batman voice. What gives?
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Re: Movie

Postby AlexPKeaton on Fri Jul 24, 2009 10:30 am

Kraftster wrote:Ouch. The only gripe about Bale that I even entertain as being legitimate is the Batman voice. What gives?


I'm just saying he is an average lead actor. I don't really care if he is in a movie or not.
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Re: Movie

Postby Kraftster on Fri Jul 24, 2009 10:33 am

Fair enough. I guess I just see him as being really dedicated to his craft -- see the Machinist -- and I think that comes through. I also love the diversity of his roles. To each his own, though.
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Re: Movie

Postby Malkamaniac on Fri Jul 24, 2009 10:50 am

Haha, you may be a criminal, but that is a high quality reply post right there.


You're telling me you have never downloading anything? Music? Movies? Programs?
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Re: Movie

Postby Pitts on Fri Jul 24, 2009 10:53 am

Idoit40fans wrote:I am going to be posting when I watch a movie. Join if you want.

I just watched the Fast and the Furious on FX last night. What a stupid movie.
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Re: Movie

Postby Kraftster on Fri Jul 24, 2009 11:20 am

Malkamaniac wrote:
Haha, you may be a criminal, but that is a high quality reply post right there.


You're telling me you have never downloading anything? Music? Movies? Programs?


What's it really matter? My doing it or not doing it doesn't change the fact that its illegal. Breaking the Encryption of a DVD is illegal per the DMCA. There are some copyright exceptions for backing up your own property, ie, if you buy the DVD, but, not if its rented. Additionally, ripping onto a computer and subsequent distribution (or "sharing") of the files once on the computer is an even more serious violation (regardless of any monetary gain).

My use of the word "criminal" is at least a little bit tongue in cheek, but, its indisputable that its illegal. Just because there will, in all likelihood, be no punishment for doing it does not mean that it is legal.

As for me, I've not downloaded music, movies, or programs for a little over three years now. Don't take that as a holier than thou comment, I'm just simply stating. I'm not on a crusade to end IP piracy -- I'm sure my wife downloads music -- but, I find myself more and more sympathetic towards the copyright owners.
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Re: Movie

Postby beerman on Fri Jul 24, 2009 11:24 am

Kraftster wrote:
Malkamaniac wrote:
Haha, you may be a criminal, but that is a high quality reply post right there.


You're telling me you have never downloading anything? Music? Movies? Programs?


What's it really matter? My doing it or not doing it doesn't change the fact that its illegal. Breaking the Encryption of a DVD is illegal per the DMCA. There are some copyright exceptions for backing up your own property, ie, if you buy the DVD, but, not if its rented. Additionally, ripping onto a computer and subsequent distribution (or "sharing") of the files once on the computer is an even more serious violation (regardless of any monetary gain).

My use of the word "criminal" is at least a little bit tongue in cheek, but, its indisputable that its illegal. Just because there will, in all likelihood, be no punishment for doing it does not mean that it is legal.

As for me, I've not downloaded music, movies, or programs for a little over three years now. Don't take that as a holier than thou comment, I'm just simply stating. I'm not on a crusade to end IP piracy -- I'm sure my wife downloads music -- but, I find myself more and more sympathetic towards the copyright owners.


My grandpa always tells me it's not stealing if you use it, I live by that :lol:
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Re: Movie

Postby pittsoccer33 on Fri Jul 24, 2009 11:44 am

Kraftster wrote: Breaking the Encryption of a DVD is illegal per the DMCA. There are some copyright exceptions for backing up your own property, ie, if you buy the DVD, but, not if its rented.


I did not know this. Was my mom breaking the law when we hooked two VCRs together to copy the VHS tapes we rented of Transformers, My Pet Monster, and My Little Ponies?
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Re: Movie

Postby Malkamaniac on Fri Jul 24, 2009 11:46 am

Kraftster wrote:
Malkamaniac wrote:
Haha, you may be a criminal, but that is a high quality reply post right there.


You're telling me you have never downloading anything? Music? Movies? Programs?


What's it really matter? My doing it or not doing it doesn't change the fact that its illegal. Breaking the Encryption of a DVD is illegal per the DMCA. There are some copyright exceptions for backing up your own property, ie, if you buy the DVD, but, not if its rented. Additionally, ripping onto a computer and subsequent distribution (or "sharing") of the files once on the computer is an even more serious violation (regardless of any monetary gain).

My use of the word "criminal" is at least a little bit tongue in cheek, but, its indisputable that its illegal. Just because there will, in all likelihood, be no punishment for doing it does not mean that it is legal.

As for me, I've not downloaded music, movies, or programs for a little over three years now. Don't take that as a holier than thou comment, I'm just simply stating. I'm not on a crusade to end IP piracy -- I'm sure my wife downloads music -- but, I find myself more and more sympathetic towards the copyright owners.



I just feel that if you have done it in the past or now, commenting on or calling the kettle black is a little overrated.
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Re: Movie

Postby mac5155 on Fri Jul 24, 2009 11:46 am

pittsoccer33 wrote:
Kraftster wrote: Breaking the Encryption of a DVD is illegal per the DMCA. There are some copyright exceptions for backing up your own property, ie, if you buy the DVD, but, not if its rented.


I did not know this. Was my mom breaking the law when we hooked two VCRs together to copy the VHS tapes we rented of Transformers, My Pet Monster, and My Little Ponies?


dude i used to do that too!
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Re: Movie

Postby pittsoccer33 on Fri Jul 24, 2009 11:53 am

Kraftster is correct:

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2008/1 ... ealnetwor/

So it's illegal to "break the encryption." What if I put the movie in a DVD player and used my video inputs to record the movie the way I use my PC as a DVR? The laws just are't catching up to technology.
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Re: Movie

Postby Malkamaniac on Fri Jul 24, 2009 11:56 am

So it's illegal to "break the encryption." What if I put the movie in a DVD player and used my video inputs to record the movie the way I use my PC as a DVR? The laws just are't catching up to technology.


There is always a way around everything. Everyone downloads and rips and knows it illegal. The fact is, the legality of the subject is hiding in plain site, and people aren't afraid because most of these rules and descriptions are not clear on what can be done.

The MPAA wanted people to buy the disc again digitally to put it on their Ipod. Even the term's "fair use" have come into the firing range by them. So if they aren't willing to play fair, then neither am I.
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Re: Movie

Postby Pitts on Fri Jul 24, 2009 11:58 am

mac5155 wrote:
pittsoccer33 wrote:
Kraftster wrote: Breaking the Encryption of a DVD is illegal per the DMCA. There are some copyright exceptions for backing up your own property, ie, if you buy the DVD, but, not if its rented.


I did not know this. Was my mom breaking the law when we hooked two VCRs together to copy the VHS tapes we rented of Transformers, My Pet Monster, and My Little Ponies?


dude i used to do that too!

And, technically, yes -- it was illegal. Just like it was illegal to copy your LP and 45 rpm records to cassette tape. It has always been illegal -- just the means have changes.
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Re: Movie

Postby Pitts on Fri Jul 24, 2009 11:59 am

pittsoccer33 wrote:Kraftster is correct:

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2008/1 ... ealnetwor/

So it's illegal to "break the encryption." What if I put the movie in a DVD player and used my video inputs to record the movie the way I use my PC as a DVR? The laws just are't catching up to technology.

No, the law is simple, it is illegal to make copies of copyrighted works. Period. Not that I haven't done it, but the law is very simple in it's fact.
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Re: Movie

Postby Corvidae on Fri Jul 24, 2009 12:04 pm

Anywho, I love me some bootlegs.
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Re: Movie

Postby Kraftster on Fri Jul 24, 2009 12:38 pm

Malkamaniac wrote:
Kraftster wrote:
Malkamaniac wrote:
You're telling me you have never downloading anything? Music? Movies? Programs?


What's it really matter? My doing it or not doing it doesn't change the fact that its illegal. Breaking the Encryption of a DVD is illegal per the DMCA. There are some copyright exceptions for backing up your own property, ie, if you buy the DVD, but, not if its rented. Additionally, ripping onto a computer and subsequent distribution (or "sharing") of the files once on the computer is an even more serious violation (regardless of any monetary gain).

My use of the word "criminal" is at least a little bit tongue in cheek, but, its indisputable that its illegal. Just because there will, in all likelihood, be no punishment for doing it does not mean that it is legal.

As for me, I've not downloaded music, movies, or programs for a little over three years now. Don't take that as a holier than thou comment, I'm just simply stating. I'm not on a crusade to end IP piracy -- I'm sure my wife downloads music -- but, I find myself more and more sympathetic towards the copyright owners.



I just feel that if you have done it in the past or now, commenting on or calling the kettle black is a little overrated.


Huh, as a general outlook that's pretty bleak. Once you've committed a wrong, don't bother questioning behavior in the future? I really did not understand all the issues until I went through law school and took some IP law classes. Now that I do, I refrain from doing it. If I'm unqualified to speak on the issue, then so be it.
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