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Re: LGP Fantasy Hockey Keeper League

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Troy Loney wrote:
Kraftster wrote:
I think under the rules, the outcome has to be orpchar owns Horvat.
yeah, i was hoping the granlund debacle would prevent this from happening again.
Sounds like the tribe has spoken, I will switch back to Horvat.

Also, The Granlund Debacle is a decent band name.
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Re: LGP Fantasy Hockey Keeper League

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if the tough **** provision of bjugstad and granlund infamy is being enacted, i think orpchar should get him
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Re: LGP Fantasy Hockey Keeper League

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If it wasn't on my sheet, it's my mistake. Horvat isn't mine anymore. That being said, I still think there's a large disconnect to who use the Gdocs and who don't.
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Re: LGP Fantasy Hockey Keeper League

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Kraftster wrote:
I was pretty sure that we were holding people to their google docs as a rule. I wasn't a fan of the rule, but I think that is the rule.
I don't understand why this should not be enforced. It shouldn't be the other owners' responsibility to keep track of everyone else's' rookies. There is no reason the google doc can't stand as official record when every one of us has access to it. Unless we move to a league where keepers are tracked on site, I see no problems with this set-up.
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Re: LGP Fantasy Hockey Keeper League

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who doesnt use the google doc?
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Re: LGP Fantasy Hockey Keeper League

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Pitts wrote:
Kraftster wrote:
I was pretty sure that we were holding people to their google docs as a rule. I wasn't a fan of the rule, but I think that is the rule.
I don't understand why this should not be enforced. It shouldn't be the other owners' responsibility to keep track of everyone else's' rookies. There is no reason the google doc can't stand as official record when every one of us has access to it. Unless we move to a league where keepers are tracked on site, I see no problems with this set-up.
I think it's that guys like Horvat and Granlund aren't on my radar because I knew that they had been drafted before. And I don't think it's we're targeting players being mismanaged, but that it's just a lucky stumble and sort of provides an advantage for owners to not pay as close attention to everything.
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Re: LGP Fantasy Hockey Keeper League

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Because its dumb to play a "gotcha" game when we can all agree that Horvat is an eligible rookie and it would serve absolutely no purpose for Malk to not keep him.

The mighty burden imposed by someone saying "hey, he's mine, forgot to add him to the doc" and a team re-picking aside, there's really no good reason to take a tough **** approach. Since that burden is not really a burden at all, it seems dumb to me. If this were a money league that was serious business or there was a maximum number of rookies and therefore a reason to ever cut when before they lose eligibility, it might be different. Alas, this is a non-money league that you're all just playing to compete for second place, so it seems a bit silly.
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Re: LGP Fantasy Hockey Keeper League

Post by Malkamaniac »

Letang Is The Truth wrote:
who doesnt use the google doc?
Well for one the repetitive draft picks. It isn't that hard to do a find within the sheet for the 2014 Draft and Keepers. Anyone not on either of those lists should be sent back into the FA pool.
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Re: LGP Fantasy Hockey Keeper League

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Troy Loney wrote:
Pitts wrote:
Kraftster wrote:
I was pretty sure that we were holding people to their google docs as a rule. I wasn't a fan of the rule, but I think that is the rule.
I don't understand why this should not be enforced. It shouldn't be the other owners' responsibility to keep track of everyone else's' rookies. There is no reason the google doc can't stand as official record when every one of us has access to it. Unless we move to a league where keepers are tracked on site, I see no problems with this set-up.
I think it's that guys like Horvat and Granlund aren't on my radar because I knew that they had been drafted before. And I don't think it's we're targeting players being mismanaged, but that it's just a lucky stumble and sort of provides an advantage for owners to not pay as close attention to everything.
This too
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Horvatgate.
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Re: LGP Fantasy Hockey Keeper League

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Kraftster wrote:
Troy Loney wrote:
Pitts wrote:
Kraftster wrote:
I was pretty sure that we were holding people to their google docs as a rule. I wasn't a fan of the rule, but I think that is the rule.
I don't understand why this should not be enforced. It shouldn't be the other owners' responsibility to keep track of everyone else's' rookies. There is no reason the google doc can't stand as official record when every one of us has access to it. Unless we move to a league where keepers are tracked on site, I see no problems with this set-up.
I think it's that guys like Horvat and Granlund aren't on my radar because I knew that they had been drafted before. And I don't think it's we're targeting players being mismanaged, but that it's just a lucky stumble and sort of provides an advantage for owners to not pay as close attention to everything.
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Well, I agree to an extent. When Horvat was picked, it rang a bell with me. But, I searched the google pages, 2014 draft and 2014 keepers and he wasn't there. So, I figured he was available. But, orpchar is new to the league, so he had no basis to assume Horvat was a retained rookie. He wasn't TARGETING anything.
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Re: LGP Fantasy Hockey Keeper League

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I know he wasn't, you would have to have drafted in 2013 to know horvat was taken. the issue isn't with orpchar, it's with the tough**** rule.
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Re: LGP Fantasy Hockey Keeper League

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And look how appalled he was when faced with the threat of having to re-pick...
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Re: LGP Fantasy Hockey Keeper League

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Pitts wrote:
He wasn't TARGETING anything.
Definitely not targeting anything/anyone, and like I said it would've been no problem to change my pick, but the more I thought about that, there's nothing keeping someone else from calling tough **** several picks later, and then THEY get Horvat instead of me or Malk. And when a rule is explicitly stated in the league document and has a precedent of being enforced, you have to continue enforcing it.

One might say the standard is the standard.
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Re: LGP Fantasy Hockey Keeper League

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I'm just wondering how you thought to even look for Bo Horvat to draft!
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Re: LGP Fantasy Hockey Keeper League

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orpchar wrote:
Pitts wrote:
He wasn't TARGETING anything.
Definitely not targeting anything/anyone, and like I said it would've been no problem to change my pick, but the more I thought about that, there's nothing keeping someone else from calling tough **** several picks later, and then THEY get Horvat instead of me or Malk. And when a rule is explicitly stated in the league document and has a precedent of being enforced, you have to continue enforcing it.

One might say the standard is the standard.
Well thankfully, I follow the rules of if it's not on the 2014 keeper or draft he's free game.
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Re: LGP Fantasy Hockey Keeper League

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I see the subtle jabs. I dont remember being "appalled" over Granlund; I think I even offered to repick. Maybe I'm wrote. My support was anchored in the difficulty of remembering who was drafted in earlier years and my dependence on the Pitts doc. Troy and Kraft have better memories. I see both sides. But obviously the tribe elected the tough **** rule. So let's bury the date.
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Re: LGP Fantasy Hockey Keeper League

Post by Idoit40fans »

I didnt realize i was up. Ill get the pick in a few minutes
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Re: LGP Fantasy Hockey Keeper League

Post by Beveridge »

Question:

I've taken 2 Rookies so far. A couple guys at the top of my board on remaining players have 60ish games played so they are still rookies.

Are they off limits for this round for me or can I pick them with the * of they aren't a rookie pick?

I'm guessing they are off limits but figured I'd check.
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Re: LGP Fantasy Hockey Keeper League

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Off limits.
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Re: LGP Fantasy Hockey Keeper League

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Ok. Thanks.
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Re: LGP Fantasy Hockey Keeper League

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I actually wasn't trying to get a change on that rule. I was just whining for no real purpose.
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Re: LGP Fantasy Hockey Keeper League

Post by Idoit40fans »

Rookies thus far

Malkamaniac
Gaudreau, Johnny
Hutchinson, Michael

Orpchar
Mrazek, Petr
Horvat, Bo

Beveridge
Ritchie, Nick
Larkin, Dylan

Idoit40fans
Kapanen, Kasperi
Dal Colle, Michael

Cheesesteak
Demko, Thatcher
Ehlers, Nikolaj

Kicksave
Nylander, William
Lemieux, Brendan

Beerman
Pearson, Tanner

Troy Loney
Reinhart, Sam
Lehtera, Jori

Pitts
Draisaitl, Leon

TehHammer
Kucherov, Nikita
Spooner, Ryan

LITT
Pastrnak, David
Scherbak, Nikita

Kraftster
Bennett, Sam
Ekblad, Aaron

Draft Order for rookie draft



1
Beerman
Pitts
2
Malka
Orpchar
Troy Loney
TehHammer
LITT
Kicksave
Cheesesteak
Idoit40fans
Beveridge
Beerman
Pitts
Kraftster
3
Malka
Orpchar
Troy Loney
TehHammer
LITT
Kicksave
Cheesesteak
Idoit40fans
Beveridge
Beerman
Pitts
Kraftster
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Re: LGP Fantasy Hockey Keeper League

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I also drafted Ekblad
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Re: LGP Fantasy Hockey Keeper League

Post by Idoit40fans »

Some jerk didn't mark him as a rookie in the draft post.