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No stats for (Jagr's) points against former teams

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...at least that I know of, but Jagr has to have the most points scored against his former team(s). He is one of the all time leaders for points scored and he has so many former teams (meaning more games played against them) that it makes sense that he would be the all time leader in that department. :roll: :face:

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Jagr will turn 44 next week. To me, that is another amazing statistic, along with having 17 goals and 21 assists this year (so far).

To put that in perspective, 38 points is more than every Penguin, excepting 87, 71 and 58.

He must be in incredible shape physically.
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Big Easy Pens Fan wrote:
...at least that I know of, but Jagr has to have the most points scored against his former team(s). He is one of the all time leaders for points scored and he has so many former teams (meaning more games played against them) that it makes sense that he would be the all time leader in that department. :roll: :face:

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That would be a very difficult stat to look up. As with all offensive stats, the place to start looking is Gretzky. As it turns out, Gretzky had 85 career points against Edmonton after leaving. Then you have to include his seasons against LA after he left as well as his points against St. Louis after he played 18 games there during the 95-96 season. After leaving LA, he racked up a mere 9 points against the Kings. After leaving St. Louis he potted an additional 5 points against the Blues. That leaves an incredibly numerically unlikely coincidence - the Great one had exactly 99 points against former teams during his career.

As for Jagr - the short answer is to date he has 113 points against former teams (46 against Pens and 67 against others), and counting. I will provide a break-down below. This number figures to continue to rise. I have no idea right now if there are any other very likely players to have large point totals against former teams, but I love number games like this. Maybe I'll take a look some day and see if I can think of anyone else.

Without further adieu, Jagr stats against former teams:

Pit - 46 points after leaving
Wash - 26 points after leaving
NYR - 10 points after leaving
Dal - 6 points after leaving
Bos - 8 points after leaving
NJD - 5 points after leaving
Phi - 12 points after leaving

Any other ideas on players who racked up large point totals against former teams (I'm betting Mark Recchi is up pretty high on this list too)?
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The thing about Jagr is at this point in his career he probably plays more games vs former teams than anyone else each year he continues to play. :pop:

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SubtropicalPenguin wrote:
Big Easy Pens Fan wrote:
...at least that I know of, but Jagr has to have the most points scored against his former team(s). He is one of the all time leaders for points scored and he has so many former teams (meaning more games played against them) that it makes sense that he would be the all time leader in that department. :roll: :face:

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That would be a very difficult stat to look up. As with all offensive stats, the place to start looking is Gretzky. As it turns out, Gretzky had 85 career points against Edmonton after leaving. Then you have to include his seasons against LA after he left as well as his points against St. Louis after he played 18 games there during the 95-96 season. After leaving LA, he racked up a mere 9 points against the Kings. After leaving St. Louis he potted an additional 5 points against the Blues. That leaves an incredibly numerically unlikely coincidence - the Great one had exactly 99 points against former teams during his career.

As for Jagr - the short answer is to date he has 113 points against former teams (46 against Pens and 67 against others), and counting. I will provide a break-down below. This number figures to continue to rise. I have no idea right now if there are any other very likely players to have large point totals against former teams, but I love number games like this. Maybe I'll take a look some day and see if I can think of anyone else.

Without further adieu, Jagr stats against former teams:

Pit - 46 points after leaving
Wash - 26 points after leaving
NYR - 10 points after leaving
Dal - 6 points after leaving
Bos - 8 points after leaving
NJD - 5 points after leaving

Any other ideas on players who racked up large point totals against former teams (I'm betting Mark Recchi is up pretty high on this list too)?

None vs the Flyers?

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Humperdink wrote:
He must be in incredible shape physically.
Yes, he must. :lol:

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Big Easy Pens Fan wrote:
SubtropicalPenguin wrote:
Big Easy Pens Fan wrote:
...at least that I know of, but Jagr has to have the most points scored against his former team(s). He is one of the all time leaders for points scored and he has so many former teams (meaning more games played against them) that it makes sense that he would be the all time leader in that department. :roll: :face:

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That would be a very difficult stat to look up. As with all offensive stats, the place to start looking is Gretzky. As it turns out, Gretzky had 85 career points against Edmonton after leaving. Then you have to include his seasons against LA after he left as well as his points against St. Louis after he played 18 games there during the 95-96 season. After leaving LA, he racked up a mere 9 points against the Kings. After leaving St. Louis he potted an additional 5 points against the Blues. That leaves an incredibly numerically unlikely coincidence - the Great one had exactly 99 points against former teams during his career.

As for Jagr - the short answer is to date he has 113 points against former teams (46 against Pens and 67 against others), and counting. I will provide a break-down below. This number figures to continue to rise. I have no idea right now if there are any other very likely players to have large point totals against former teams, but I love number games like this. Maybe I'll take a look some day and see if I can think of anyone else.

Without further adieu, Jagr stats against former teams:

Pit - 46 points after leaving
Wash - 26 points after leaving
NYR - 10 points after leaving
Dal - 6 points after leaving
Bos - 8 points after leaving
NJD - 5 points after leaving

Any other ideas on players who racked up large point totals against former teams (I'm betting Mark Recchi is up pretty high on this list too)?

None vs the Flyers?

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Oops. I left the Flyers points out of the post (even though the points were included in my notes/calculations). I edited the post.
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Tomas wrote:
Humperdink wrote:
He must be in incredible shape physically.
Yes, he must. :lol:

http://www.blesk.cz/clanek/celebrity-ce ... lasku.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://celebwiki.blesk.cz/osobnost/3923 ... koprivova/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Now there's an incentive to stay in shape.
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SubtropicalPenguin wrote:
Any other ideas on players who racked up large point totals against former teams (I'm betting Mark Recchi is up pretty high on this list too)?
Phil Esposito is a possibility, as he started his career with a few seasons in Chicago before going on to Boston and the Rangers.

He played for fewer teams, but there were fewer teams in the league then so he played former teams more often.

Any points he had against Chicago, plus any he had against Boston for the NYR, would count. I doubt he can top that 113, though.
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SubtropicalPenguin wrote:
Big Easy Pens Fan wrote:
...at least that I know of, but Jagr has to have the most points scored against his former team(s). He is one of the all time leaders for points scored and he has so many former teams (meaning more games played against them) that it makes sense that he would be the all time leader in that department. :roll: :face:

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That would be a very difficult stat to look up. As with all offensive stats, the place to start looking is Gretzky. As it turns out, Gretzky had 85 career points against Edmonton after leaving. Then you have to include his seasons against LA after he left as well as his points against St. Louis after he played 18 games there during the 95-96 season. After leaving LA, he racked up a mere 9 points against the Kings. After leaving St. Louis he potted an additional 5 points against the Blues. That leaves an incredibly numerically unlikely coincidence - the Great one had exactly 99 points against former teams during his career.

As for Jagr - the short answer is to date he has 113 points against former teams (46 against Pens and 67 against others), and counting. I will provide a break-down below. This number figures to continue to rise. I have no idea right now if there are any other very likely players to have large point totals against former teams, but I love number games like this. Maybe I'll take a look some day and see if I can think of anyone else.

Without further adieu, Jagr stats against former teams:

Pit - 46 points after leaving
Wash - 26 points after leaving
NYR - 10 points after leaving
Dal - 6 points after leaving
Bos - 8 points after leaving
NJD - 5 points after leaving
Phi - 12 points after leaving

Any other ideas on players who racked up large point totals against former teams (I'm betting Mark Recchi is up pretty high on this list too)?
Wow! This is actually really interesting! (So I edited the title. :) )

Thanks for the tally SubTP! :fist:

Tomas wrote:
Humperdink wrote:
He must be in incredible shape physically.
Yes, he must. :lol:

http://www.blesk.cz/clanek/celebrity-ce ... lasku.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://celebwiki.blesk.cz/osobnost/3923 ... koprivova/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
TOMAS! I THOUGHT THESE WERE GONNA SHOW ME WHY JAGR'S IN SHAPE! :P :lol:
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I'm going to nominate Doug Gilmour.
65 points against his original club St. Louis
35 points against Calgary after leaving 1991
10 points against the Leafs after his first stint there ending 91/92
5 points against NJD after 96/97 season
3 points against Chicago after 98/99 season
3 against Buffalo after 2000-2001 season

So that's 121 points against teams he previously wore the sweater for.

For his career, he had 283 points against teams he played for, but 121 is points after leaving (he had 28 points against the Cannadiians but none after playing there, 30 points against Bullafo prior to playing there but only 3 after, 54 against Chicago but only 3 after leaving there, 31 against the Devils but only 5 after playing there, 35 against the Leafs in his career but only 10 after his first stint in Toronto....) All his points against the Blues were after leaving, as were 35 of 37 career points against Calagary.
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Great58 wrote:
I'm going to nominate Doug Gilmour.
65 points against his original club St. Louis
35 points against Calgary after leaving 1991
10 points against the Leafs after his first stint there ending 91/92
5 points against NJD after 96/97 season
3 points against Chicago after 98/99 season
3 against Buffalo after 2000-2001 season

So that's 121 points against teams he previously wore the sweater for.

For his career, he had 283 points against teams he played for, but 121 is points after leaving (he had 28 points against the Cannadiians but none after playing there, 30 points against Bullafo prior to playing there but only 3 after, 54 against Chicago but only 3 after leaving there, 31 against the Devils but only 5 after playing there, 35 against the Leafs in his career but only 10 after his first stint in Toronto....) All his points against the Blues were after leaving, as were 35 of 37 career points against Calagary.
ooh... that's good, too! Sooo, I edited the title again. :lol:

What makes it even more interesting is that Jagr's still racking them up. :pop: :D
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Recchi and his rug ARE pretty high up this list, STP!

187 points against clubs after he left!

81 against the Pens
40 against the Flyboys after 91/92
29 against MTL after 95/96
23 against the Canes after 05/06
6 against the Thrahers after 07/08
8 against the Bolts after 08/09
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It's amazing to watch what he is doing at his age. He would be pushing close to 2200 points right now if he hadn't lost basically 5 NHL seasons to lockouts (partial in 94-95, entire season 04-05, and partial in 12-13) and KHL (3 seasons).
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JeanPronovost wrote:
SubtropicalPenguin wrote:
Any other ideas on players who racked up large point totals against former teams (I'm betting Mark Recchi is up pretty high on this list too)?
Phil Esposito is a possibility, as he started his career with a few seasons in Chicago before going on to Boston and the Rangers.

He played for fewer teams, but there were fewer teams in the league then so he played former teams more often.

Any points he had against Chicago, plus any he had against Boston for the NYR, would count. I doubt he can top that 113, though.

Well, I was going to run the numbers on Esposito, but the NHL website has changed from just a few days ago :evil: , and now I can't get split stats for him. I poked around some other sites, but haven't been able to find anything particularly helpful for old-timers split stats. Maybe some other day....
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I started looking at Espo's stats this weekend, but a) couldn't find splits and b) saw he didn't score enough as a Ranger to give him any chance at beating Jagr, Recchi or Gilmour. So I stopped. Was surprised at the big minus he had during his time in NYC, too.