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Penguins Development camp starts July 6th and runs through July 10th

Dev camp roster can be found here: https://media.d3.nhle.com/image/private ... 8gbyis.pdf

In addition, Taylor Haase stated that goalie prospect Sergei Murashov was added to the dev camp roster today. Will be interesting to get our first look at him over here.
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Pickering interview:
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Pickering looks a lot bigger and more mature. He said he’s around 200 pounds now .

He drinks shots of olive oil in the morning he said lol. There’s more healthy ways to put weight on. Amazing how antiquated many nutrition programs are.
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https://www.nhl.com/penguins/news/hocke ... m_medium=x

Koivunen interview. I've read many scouting reports that talk about his hockey sense and hockey IQ. I a Hurricanes prospect write-up said he has the best hockey sense of all their prospects.

Here's to hoping he progresses and makes the big club sooner than later!
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Brayden Yager (he mentioned early in his interview that he's good friends with Tanner Howe):

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KG wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2024 3:54 pm
Pickering looks a lot bigger and more mature. He said he’s around 200 pounds now .

He drinks shots of olive oil in the morning he said lol. There’s more healthy ways to put weight on. Amazing how antiquated many nutrition programs are.
I wish POJ would’ve tried the olive oil. Maybe he’d still be with us.
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KG wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2024 3:54 pm
Pickering looks a lot bigger and more mature. He said he’s around 200 pounds now .

He drinks shots of olive oil in the morning he said lol. There’s more healthy ways to put weight on. Amazing how antiquated many nutrition programs are.
We have a slight disagreement here. While utilizing Olive Oil to gain weight is an older process, it's highly effective and safe. Olive oil notably has cholesterol-lowering monounsaturated fats that are highly beneficial to gaining a healthy and effective weight.
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Pensburgh has an article on Murashov this morning. I guess his numbers in Russian juniors are fantastic, and his numbers in the handful of KHL games he's gotten are very good. They also say he was a surprise appearance at this camp but is currently out of contract with his KHL team. I'm not sure where there's space for him in the minors, but I'm inclined to say that if he looks really legit, find a way to get him a contract and don't let him go back to Russia and have to deal with trying to pry a top goalie out of the KHL in a couple years.
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largegarlic wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2024 10:57 am
Pensburgh has an article on Murashov this morning. I guess his numbers in Russian juniors are fantastic, and his numbers in the handful of KHL games he's gotten are very good. They also say he was a surprise appearance at this camp but is currently out of contract with his KHL team. I'm not sure where there's space for him in the minors, but I'm inclined to say that if he looks really legit, find a way to get him a contract and don't let him go back to Russia and have to deal with trying to pry a top goalie out of the KHL in a couple years.
Here's his interview this morning with reporters, courtesy of Taylor Haase. Nice to see he speaks English fairly well for never being in the US before. He mentions in the interview that he needs to decide in the next few days to a week what he is doing for next season, staying here or playing in Russia again.

Unfortunately, unless the Penguins found another AHL team to loan him to, our minor league system is already overcrowded for goalies. Taylor Gauthier played almost all season in the ECHL last year and needs AHL starts to continue development. Dubas signed Filip Larsson, who is 25 and has pro experience in the Swedish SHL. He also needs AHL starts and surely didn't leave Sweden to come play in the ECHL full time. And of course you have Blomqvist, who should be THE GUY for WBS at the AHL level. Doesn't leave any room for Murashov to play here, unless the Penguins can work out a deal for him to play for another AHL club but still be under Penguins rights (not sure if that is possible).

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FLPensFan wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2024 11:48 am
largegarlic wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2024 10:57 am
Pensburgh has an article on Murashov this morning. I guess his numbers in Russian juniors are fantastic, and his numbers in the handful of KHL games he's gotten are very good. They also say he was a surprise appearance at this camp but is currently out of contract with his KHL team. I'm not sure where there's space for him in the minors, but I'm inclined to say that if he looks really legit, find a way to get him a contract and don't let him go back to Russia and have to deal with trying to pry a top goalie out of the KHL in a couple years.
Here's his interview this morning with reporters, courtesy of Taylor Haase. Nice to see he speaks English fairly well for never being in the US before. He mentions in the interview that he needs to decide in the next few days to a week what he is doing for next season, staying here or playing in Russia again.

Unfortunately, unless the Penguins found another AHL team to loan him to, our minor league system is already overcrowded for goalies. Taylor Gauthier played almost all season in the ECHL last year and needs AHL starts to continue development. Dubas signed Filip Larsson, who is 25 and has pro experience in the Swedish SHL. He also needs AHL starts and surely didn't leave Sweden to come play in the ECHL full time. And of course you have Blomqvist, who should be THE GUY for WBS at the AHL level. Doesn't leave any room for Murashov to play here, unless the Penguins can work out a deal for him to play for another AHL club but still be under Penguins rights (not sure if that is possible).

Trade Jarry - problem solved. :)
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What if Murashov is our Shesterkin??? 8-)
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Honestly I'm going to wager that they tried to move Jarry and found that every other GM was like, "are you crazy with that contract for that guy? I mean what idiot signed him to that?!"

Maybe they should have read LGP for once before signing that deal. :pop:
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Hire Murashov to tutor Geno in English. :twisted:
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Tico Rick wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2024 3:13 pm
Hire Murashov to tutor Geno in English. :twisted:
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Trade TMFJ. Throw in a 2026 3rd rounder.

Or bury him in the AHL, call up anyone else. Sick and tired of Jarry crapping the bed when it matters.
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FLPensFan wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2024 11:48 am
largegarlic wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2024 10:57 am
Pensburgh has an article on Murashov this morning. I guess his numbers in Russian juniors are fantastic, and his numbers in the handful of KHL games he's gotten are very good. They also say he was a surprise appearance at this camp but is currently out of contract with his KHL team. I'm not sure where there's space for him in the minors, but I'm inclined to say that if he looks really legit, find a way to get him a contract and don't let him go back to Russia and have to deal with trying to pry a top goalie out of the KHL in a couple years.
Here's his interview this morning with reporters, courtesy of Taylor Haase. Nice to see he speaks English fairly well for never being in the US before. He mentions in the interview that he needs to decide in the next few days to a week what he is doing for next season, staying here or playing in Russia again.

Unfortunately, unless the Penguins found another AHL team to loan him to, our minor league system is already overcrowded for goalies. Taylor Gauthier played almost all season in the ECHL last year and needs AHL starts to continue development. Dubas signed Filip Larsson, who is 25 and has pro experience in the Swedish SHL. He also needs AHL starts and surely didn't leave Sweden to come play in the ECHL full time. And of course you have Blomqvist, who should be THE GUY for WBS at the AHL level. Doesn't leave any room for Murashov to play here, unless the Penguins can work out a deal for him to play for another AHL club but still be under Penguins rights (not sure if that is possible).

I've never seen either guy play at all, but I wonder if they dump Gauthier if Murashov looks like a better prospect. Gauthier is going to turn 24 this season, and while his numbers in the ECHL are good, his numbers in the AHL are middling, and he's only played 24 games in the AHL. That doesn't scream blue-chip prospect. I'm not sure if Murashov could be enticed over to mostly play in the ECHL, but maybe they could overpay him for a guy at that level (like they have with some of the vets they've signed to mostly play in the AHL).
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largegarlic wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2024 4:03 pm
FLPensFan wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2024 11:48 am
largegarlic wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2024 10:57 am
Pensburgh has an article on Murashov this morning. I guess his numbers in Russian juniors are fantastic, and his numbers in the handful of KHL games he's gotten are very good. They also say he was a surprise appearance at this camp but is currently out of contract with his KHL team. I'm not sure where there's space for him in the minors, but I'm inclined to say that if he looks really legit, find a way to get him a contract and don't let him go back to Russia and have to deal with trying to pry a top goalie out of the KHL in a couple years.
Here's his interview this morning with reporters, courtesy of Taylor Haase. Nice to see he speaks English fairly well for never being in the US before. He mentions in the interview that he needs to decide in the next few days to a week what he is doing for next season, staying here or playing in Russia again.

Unfortunately, unless the Penguins found another AHL team to loan him to, our minor league system is already overcrowded for goalies. Taylor Gauthier played almost all season in the ECHL last year and needs AHL starts to continue development. Dubas signed Filip Larsson, who is 25 and has pro experience in the Swedish SHL. He also needs AHL starts and surely didn't leave Sweden to come play in the ECHL full time. And of course you have Blomqvist, who should be THE GUY for WBS at the AHL level. Doesn't leave any room for Murashov to play here, unless the Penguins can work out a deal for him to play for another AHL club but still be under Penguins rights (not sure if that is possible).

I've never seen either guy play at all, but I wonder if they dump Gauthier if Murashov looks like a better prospect. Gauthier is going to turn 24 this season, and while his numbers in the ECHL are good, his numbers in the AHL are middling, and he's only played 24 games in the AHL. That doesn't scream blue-chip prospect. I'm not sure if Murashov could be enticed over to mostly play in the ECHL, but maybe they could overpay him for a guy at that level (like they have with some of the vets they've signed to mostly play in the AHL).
I asked Taylor Haase about loaning him to another AHL team, and she said yes they could do that. That would likely be the best option. The fact that he speaks English very well is a big help, and, being a goalie...you don't have to worry as much about him learning "the Pens system." Being outside the org does create some challenges in terms of having our goalie coaches work with him, but, I'd rather see him playing in NA than returning to Russia.

Gauthier was a relatively highly touted goalie prospect as an undrafted CHL player, maybe on the same level as Filip Lindberg. I think he's been a victim of crowded net in the AHL. First season, 20 games, 2.71 GAA and .907 SV% isn't bad for first pro year. Last year, there were too many goalies in WBS...they had a total of 6 goalies play games for them, so he got most of his time in ECHL. He proved that he needs to be in the AHL by winning the ECHL goalie of the year award with the best SV%, 4 shutouts, and 2nd in GAA and wins. He's not going to grow in the ECHL.

Even if you traded Gauthier in a deal, Blomqvist, Murashov, and Larsson then are all left battling for AHL time. Maybe they could make it work where Murashov starts in the ECHL and gets some AHL starts mid to late season. Or they go the loan option...but, I'm hoping he stays versus going back to Russia. Much rather have him here learning in our org and in NA than over there, where players sometimes get trapped into longer term deals.
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FLPensFan wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2024 4:16 pm
largegarlic wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2024 4:03 pm
FLPensFan wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2024 11:48 am
largegarlic wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2024 10:57 am
Pensburgh has an article on Murashov this morning. I guess his numbers in Russian juniors are fantastic, and his numbers in the handful of KHL games he's gotten are very good. They also say he was a surprise appearance at this camp but is currently out of contract with his KHL team. I'm not sure where there's space for him in the minors, but I'm inclined to say that if he looks really legit, find a way to get him a contract and don't let him go back to Russia and have to deal with trying to pry a top goalie out of the KHL in a couple years.
Here's his interview this morning with reporters, courtesy of Taylor Haase. Nice to see he speaks English fairly well for never being in the US before. He mentions in the interview that he needs to decide in the next few days to a week what he is doing for next season, staying here or playing in Russia again.

Unfortunately, unless the Penguins found another AHL team to loan him to, our minor league system is already overcrowded for goalies. Taylor Gauthier played almost all season in the ECHL last year and needs AHL starts to continue development. Dubas signed Filip Larsson, who is 25 and has pro experience in the Swedish SHL. He also needs AHL starts and surely didn't leave Sweden to come play in the ECHL full time. And of course you have Blomqvist, who should be THE GUY for WBS at the AHL level. Doesn't leave any room for Murashov to play here, unless the Penguins can work out a deal for him to play for another AHL club but still be under Penguins rights (not sure if that is possible).

I've never seen either guy play at all, but I wonder if they dump Gauthier if Murashov looks like a better prospect. Gauthier is going to turn 24 this season, and while his numbers in the ECHL are good, his numbers in the AHL are middling, and he's only played 24 games in the AHL. That doesn't scream blue-chip prospect. I'm not sure if Murashov could be enticed over to mostly play in the ECHL, but maybe they could overpay him for a guy at that level (like they have with some of the vets they've signed to mostly play in the AHL).
I asked Taylor Haase about loaning him to another AHL team, and she said yes they could do that. That would likely be the best option. The fact that he speaks English very well is a big help, and, being a goalie...you don't have to worry as much about him learning "the Pens system." Being outside the org does create some challenges in terms of having our goalie coaches work with him, but, I'd rather see him playing in NA than returning to Russia.

Gauthier was a relatively highly touted goalie prospect as an undrafted CHL player, maybe on the same level as Filip Lindberg. I think he's been a victim of crowded net in the AHL. First season, 20 games, 2.71 GAA and .907 SV% isn't bad for first pro year. Last year, there were too many goalies in WBS...they had a total of 6 goalies play games for them, so he got most of his time in ECHL. He proved that he needs to be in the AHL by winning the ECHL goalie of the year award with the best SV%, 4 shutouts, and 2nd in GAA and wins. He's not going to grow in the ECHL.

Even if you traded Gauthier in a deal, Blomqvist, Murashov, and Larsson then are all left battling for AHL time. Maybe they could make it work where Murashov starts in the ECHL and gets some AHL starts mid to late season. Or they go the loan option...but, I'm hoping he stays versus going back to Russia. Much rather have him here learning in our org and in NA than over there, where players sometimes get trapped into longer term deals.
Yea, or he goes back and get sent to the frontlines to fight for mother Russia ....
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I think Murashov, Blomquist and Larsson all should be priority as games played and developement goes.. Jarry traded would be best and Blomquist or Larsson go with big club or maybe Gauthier loaned, better than waived.

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More Murashov. This kid speaks English so well!
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Reading through the camp roster, and looking at some of Taylor Haase's player profiles, it looks like we are quietly starting to collect some bigger guys in the organization via the draft:

Forwards
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-Tristan Broz is 6 foot, 183lbs
-Luke Devlin is 6-3, 187lbs (but Taylor says he looks much, much bigger than that)
-While Tanner Howe is 5-10, he's 183lbs (good weight for an 18 year old)
-Bennett MacArthur is 6-1, 196lbs (acquired via trade for Svejkovsky this offseason)

Defense
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-Isaac Belliveau, 6-2, 185
-Harrison Brunicke, 6-3, 196
-Finn Harding, 6-1, 201
-Kalle Kangas, 6-4, 198
-Daniel Laatsch, 6-5, 183
-Owen Pickering, 6-5, 185
-Chase Pietila, 6-2, 187
(out of 15 defensemen in Dev Camp, only 2 are under 6 foot, and both are not Penguins draft picks but rather invites)

Nice to see us starting to recognize we cannot build a team full of full of shrimpy players.

Pickering-Brunicke have been playing on the same team, and paired together, most of camp. I think that's our future 2nd pairing defense.
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FLPensFan wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2024 10:58 am
Reading through the camp roster, and looking at some of Taylor Haase's player profiles, it looks like we are quietly starting to collect some bigger guys in the organization via the draft:

Forwards
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-Tristan Broz is 6 foot, 183lbs
-Luke Devlin is 6-3, 187lbs (but Taylor says he looks much, much bigger than that)
-While Tanner Howe is 5-10, he's 183lbs (good weight for an 18 year old)
-Bennett MacArthur is 6-1, 196lbs (acquired via trade for Svejkovsky this offseason)

Defense
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-Isaac Belliveau, 6-2, 185
-Harrison Brunicke, 6-3, 196
-Finn Harding, 6-1, 201
-Kalle Kangas, 6-4, 198
-Daniel Laatsch, 6-5, 183
-Owen Pickering, 6-5, 185
-Chase Pietila, 6-2, 187
(out of 15 defensemen in Dev Camp, only 2 are under 6 foot, and both are not Penguins draft picks but rather invites)

Nice to see us starting to recognize we cannot build a team full of full of shrimpy players.

Pickering-Brunicke have been playing on the same team, and paired together, most of camp. I think that's our future 2nd pairing defense.
Nice! I think this season will be more of a transition, development year on the Pens but next season I could definitely see Koivunen, Yager, Ponomarev, Pickering, Blomqvist all on the big team. In addition to holdovers like Poulin and Puustinen. I do think KD will have to make a trade or 2 to clear out some roster spots.
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So far in the team tournament phase of dev camp, Yager has been quiet, while in 2 games....nobody has managed to get a puck behind Murashov. He's got 2 shutouts. Couple of those big guys I mentioned like Brunicke and Pietila throwing out some big hits.
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Murashov needs to be kept and signed.. I liked picks of Brunicke and Pietila, good job by Dubas