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Former 6th overall pick in 2017. 25 year old 6'3 205. Can play RW and C. Wonder what we gave up. 1 year left on his deal at $2.5mill. There goes our cap space. Was hoping it would be used for a better goal scorer. But I get the intrigue.
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DOC, Puustinen, Puljujarvi, Glass, Lizotte, Poulin. Add in Beauvillier and that's a decent amount of youth in the bottom 6 (DOC or Beauvillier may end up with Sid)...if they push Acciari or Eller or Hayes out.

Almost think someone like Acciari or Eller has to be dealt now. Eller, Hayes, Glass, and Lizotte all bottom 6 centers as primary position.
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KG wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2024 4:59 pm


Former 6th overall pick in 2017. 25 year old 6'3 205. Can play RW and C. Wonder what we gave up. 1 year left on his deal at $2.5mill. There goes our cap space. Was hoping it would be used for a better goal scorer. But I get the intrigue.
I've always liked him as a player. If this is true, solid move. Or, should I maybe wait to see the entire trade?
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dark_forces wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2024 5:18 pm
KG wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2024 4:59 pm


Former 6th overall pick in 2017. 25 year old 6'3 205. Can play RW and C. Wonder what we gave up. 1 year left on his deal at $2.5mill. There goes our cap space. Was hoping it would be used for a better goal scorer. But I get the intrigue.
I've always liked him as a player. If this is true, solid move. Or, should I maybe wait to see the entire trade?
Definitely wait for the entire trade.
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Here's a few scouting reports on Glass:

Current: The No. 6 pick in the 2017 NHL Draft has the talent and size to be a quality top-six forward, but still has not put the pieces together (partly because of knee surgery that slowed his development). Owns excellent passing skills and is a creative playmaker who can log a solid two-way game. Has to get stronger and is still learning to use his body effectively to protect the puck. Must become more consistent from game to game.

Draft year: "The versatile 6-foot-2, 180-pound right-shot center plays all three forward spots but is better in the middle because he has a constant motor and is an opportunist in the offensive zone. He has good hands and playmaking ability with a style of play that has been compared to Boston Bruins center Patrice Bergeron."
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The Pittsburgh Penguins have acquired forward Cody Glass, a 2025 third-round draft pick and a 2026 sixth-round draft pick from the Nashville Predators in exchange for forward Jordan Frasca, it was announced today by President of Hockey Operations and General Manager Kyle Dubas.
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That's, um, a good deal.
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Stacking those picks!
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FLPensFan wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2024 5:41 pm


That's, um, a good deal.
Cap space is always valuable. Now we have 3 2nd round picks next draft. Dubas clearly doesn't appear to want to trade any assets for now help. We'll see how it goes with Glass. Only 1 year $2.5mill with some upside. Solid deal. No-brainer I would say.
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Not to get too picky with the draft picks, but the 3rd we are getting is apparently Minnesota's. That's even better.
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Was Frasca using up one of the 50 contracts? If yes then nothing wrong with this deal, if we are even closer or at the limit then that’s not good for waiver claims in October.

Cap space still isn’t a big problem for small moves but unless a big contract goes out another one isn’t coming back in but that’s also not a problem now. There’s some guys who had a lot of talent when they were drafted that could put it all together now because it’s happened before to other players and we extend them or move them for more picks or assets.
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I like the deal, 25 RH C with potential and we got picks as well..

But I think now Eller and Acciari are getting dealt.. we have overstacked C spots, Hayes, Glass, Lizotte for 3rd and 4th line plus Ponomarev..
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I'm not too familiar with Glass, but I like it. A younger reclamation project who is an RFA after the season, and the Pens got picks to take him. If he rebounds and the Pens aren't in the playoff picture, they can flip him at the deadline for more picks. If he doesn't rebound, let him walk in the summer with no long-term damage.

Like others, though, I do wonder how the bottom-6 will shake out. I'd be fine trading Eller or Acciari, but it seems like good teams are still maneuvering to create cap space for themselves and aren't going to want guys like that now, even if they might at the deadline. Bad teams will probably want picks attached to take on those contracts.
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largegarlic wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2024 6:55 pm
I'm not too familiar with Glass, but I like it. A younger reclamation project who is an RFA after the season, and the Pens got picks to take him. If he rebounds and the Pens aren't in the playoff picture, they can flip him at the deadline for more picks. If he doesn't rebound, let him walk in the summer with no long-term damage.

Like others, though, I do wonder how the bottom-6 will shake out. I'd be fine trading Eller or Acciari, but it seems like good teams are still maneuvering to create cap space for themselves and aren't going to want guys like that now, even if they might at the deadline. Bad teams will probably want picks attached to take on those contracts.
Buffalo was rumored to have interest in him either at the trade deadline or over the summer. Looking at some other teams with cap space, there aren't many that have a spot open for a 3C/4C. Maybe CBJ if Jenner is going to play wing. Kuraly is worse than Eller overall. Maybe Seattle if Shane Wright isn't ready, or if they want Eller as a strong 4C option.

Dubas might have to wait for an injury to occur, in which case, a player like Poulin, Puustinen, or Puljujarvi may be at risk of getting waived and claimed.
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FLPensFan wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2024 7:01 pm
largegarlic wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2024 6:55 pm
I'm not too familiar with Glass, but I like it. A younger reclamation project who is an RFA after the season, and the Pens got picks to take him. If he rebounds and the Pens aren't in the playoff picture, they can flip him at the deadline for more picks. If he doesn't rebound, let him walk in the summer with no long-term damage.

Like others, though, I do wonder how the bottom-6 will shake out. I'd be fine trading Eller or Acciari, but it seems like good teams are still maneuvering to create cap space for themselves and aren't going to want guys like that now, even if they might at the deadline. Bad teams will probably want picks attached to take on those contracts.
Buffalo was rumored to have interest in him either at the trade deadline or over the summer. Looking at some other teams with cap space, there aren't many that have a spot open for a 3C/4C. Maybe CBJ if Jenner is going to play wing. Kuraly is worse than Eller overall. Maybe Seattle if Shane Wright isn't ready, or if they want Eller as a strong 4C option.

Dubas might have to wait for an injury to occur, in which case, a player like Poulin, Puustinen, or Puljujarvi may be at risk of getting waived and claimed.
I’d hate to lose Puustinen. I like him. But this trade seems like a win to me. We got a pretty solid two way player and two picks for a minor leaguer. The bottom six is crowded but that can be solved later hopefully without too much trouble. The scouting reports make it sound like he’s a smart player and does a lot of little things right. If he chips in 15 goals or more then that would be fine.
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If I had to guess, I would think that Glass is 3rd line RW taking the spot of Puustinen. The coach doesn't trust Puustinen and doesn't play him in the 3rd period in close games.

I could see a 3rd line of Beauvillier-Hayes-Glass. Pens could ice 3 more 4th lines after that with the amount of bottom 6 forwards we have. Only definite one on the 4th line would be Lizotte. I don't think we will see any of the prospects make the team unless there are injuries. This is more of an asset gathering season. I could see them move out more vets and pending UFA's to open up roster spots for the younger players in 25-26 season.

DOC-Sid-Rust
Bunting-Malkin-Rakell
Beauvillier-Hayes-Glass
Lizotte-Eller-Acciari

Puustinen, Puljujarvi, Poulin, Bemstrom, Gruden...Not even mentioning Ponomarov. Way too much fat that needs to be trimmed down.

Look to move Eller and Acciari. The bottom 6 is definitely improved. The issue is DOC isn't a real replacement for Jake and Sid/Geno are one year older. We need an offensive threat.
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Please don’t excited folks.

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Ericf wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2024 8:34 pm
Please don’t excited folks.

First, this isn't "oh this player is gonna score 20 goals, 60 points" level of excitement type of player. Having said that, don't just look at the red numbers and imply he stinks, either. He played half a season last year and battled injuries, so his card there looks horrible except for the defense.

But, look at the chart portion for 22-23. His WAR was 50%, and his defensive impact was through the roof in 22-23, and that was over 72 games for Nashville. Last season, when he was in the lineup, he often pushed Beauvillier out of the lineup, from what I understand. 22-23 was his best year in the NHL. He's got 71 points in 187 NHL games. That's fair production for a 3rd line NHL forward.

Forget about him being a 6th overall choice in the draft, except maybe to show that he has SOME talent. Don't expect him to hit the potential that he was expected to hit as a 6th overall choice. But he still has the potential to be a fairly solid top 9 player with good defensive tendencies, size, and the ability to play all 3 forward positions (C & RW mainly).

Drawbacks are, he isn't a great skater. I don't think he's Hayes level bad, but he's probably more on par with a Poulin or Hornqvist in terms of skating. He also could stand to improve in the faceoff dot. He's around 48-49% on faceoffs historically.
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Two things Glass helps with right now: He's under 30, makes the team younger, he's listed at 6'3" - makes them bigger. I like it, but still concerned that our young guys we were all looking forward to seeing in the NHL will not get a shot anytime soon.
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Pitts wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2024 8:59 pm
Two things Glass helps with right now: He's under 30, makes the team younger, he's listed at 6'3" - makes them bigger. I like it, but still concerned that our young guys we were all looking forward to seeing in the NHL will not get a shot anytime soon.
I'm concerned mostly about how our current collection of players affect Puustinen and Puljujarvi. I think both deserve to be in the lineup on a regular basis. Otherwise...

--Koivunen has 12 whole games at the AHL level. I'd rather see him get a good half season in the AHL before even considering bringing him to the NHL.

--Ponomarev has 114 games at the AHL level, and 2 at the NHL level. I never really saw him challenging for a spot this year with guys like Puustinen, Puljujarvi, Poulin and DOC already in the mix. I'd like to see a half season from him, and see him get back to the 24 goal scorer level he was for Chicago of the AHL in 22-23. Last year with Chicago, he had only 8 goals in 39 games.

--Broz has zero games in the AHL. He may not need a lot, but I'd like to see him get some AHL games in first, again, at least a half season.

That's it from the forward group of anyone who may have had a shot....with the exception of Gruden and Poulin. Gruden is a dime a dozen player. He's nice depth, not afraid to put him in the lineup for some games, but nobody will cry a river if he's lost on waivers, traded away, or not re-signed. Poulin, on the other hand...I still get this vibe that Sullivan has no interest in him. He's going to have to show something big time in camp to secure a starting spot, and maybe even an NHL 13th forward spot. He's the only real player that I see getting blocked by some of these other guys that have been brought in. I think there is a chance someone might claim him on waivers if the Penguins go that route. He needs NHL games or another organization at this point.
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FLPensFan wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2024 10:12 pm
Pitts wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2024 8:59 pm
Two things Glass helps with right now: He's under 30, makes the team younger, he's listed at 6'3" - makes them bigger. I like it, but still concerned that our young guys we were all looking forward to seeing in the NHL will not get a shot anytime soon.
I'm concerned mostly about how our current collection of players affect Puustinen and Puljujarvi. I think both deserve to be in the lineup on a regular basis. Otherwise...

--Koivunen has 12 whole games at the AHL level. I'd rather see him get a good half season in the AHL before even considering bringing him to the NHL.

--Ponomarev has 114 games at the AHL level, and 2 at the NHL level. I never really saw him challenging for a spot this year with guys like Puustinen, Puljujarvi, Poulin and DOC already in the mix. I'd like to see a half season from him, and see him get back to the 24 goal scorer level he was for Chicago of the AHL in 22-23. Last year with Chicago, he had only 8 goals in 39 games.

--Broz has zero games in the AHL. He may not need a lot, but I'd like to see him get some AHL games in first, again, at least a half season.

That's it from the forward group of anyone who may have had a shot....with the exception of Gruden and Poulin. Gruden is a dime a dozen player. He's nice depth, not afraid to put him in the lineup for some games, but nobody will cry a river if he's lost on waivers, traded away, or not re-signed. Poulin, on the other hand...I still get this vibe that Sullivan has no interest in him. He's going to have to show something big time in camp to secure a starting spot, and maybe even an NHL 13th forward spot. He's the only real player that I see getting blocked by some of these other guys that have been brought in. I think there is a chance someone might claim him on waivers if the Penguins go that route. He needs NHL games or another organization at this point.
I always find your posts both informative and aligning with my thoughts, but I disagree with you on Puljujarvi. He’s just not good, poor skater and not much finish (no pun intended). Puustinen is just meh.

At this point, either trade Poulin or play him, terrible use of an asset.

Looking forward to guys like Ponomarev, Broz, and Koivunen showing what they can do in WB, then forcing our hand for call-ups mid season.

Hopefully by December we can move on from the vets, if not sooner.
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Badamski9 wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2024 11:40 pm
FLPensFan wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2024 10:12 pm
Pitts wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2024 8:59 pm
Two things Glass helps with right now: He's under 30, makes the team younger, he's listed at 6'3" - makes them bigger. I like it, but still concerned that our young guys we were all looking forward to seeing in the NHL will not get a shot anytime soon.
I'm concerned mostly about how our current collection of players affect Puustinen and Puljujarvi. I think both deserve to be in the lineup on a regular basis. Otherwise...

--Koivunen has 12 whole games at the AHL level. I'd rather see him get a good half season in the AHL before even considering bringing him to the NHL.

--Ponomarev has 114 games at the AHL level, and 2 at the NHL level. I never really saw him challenging for a spot this year with guys like Puustinen, Puljujarvi, Poulin and DOC already in the mix. I'd like to see a half season from him, and see him get back to the 24 goal scorer level he was for Chicago of the AHL in 22-23. Last year with Chicago, he had only 8 goals in 39 games.

--Broz has zero games in the AHL. He may not need a lot, but I'd like to see him get some AHL games in first, again, at least a half season.

That's it from the forward group of anyone who may have had a shot....with the exception of Gruden and Poulin. Gruden is a dime a dozen player. He's nice depth, not afraid to put him in the lineup for some games, but nobody will cry a river if he's lost on waivers, traded away, or not re-signed. Poulin, on the other hand...I still get this vibe that Sullivan has no interest in him. He's going to have to show something big time in camp to secure a starting spot, and maybe even an NHL 13th forward spot. He's the only real player that I see getting blocked by some of these other guys that have been brought in. I think there is a chance someone might claim him on waivers if the Penguins go that route. He needs NHL games or another organization at this point.
I always find your posts both informative and aligning with my thoughts, but I disagree with you on Puljujarvi. He’s just not good, poor skater and not much finish (no pun intended). Puustinen is just meh.

At this point, either trade Poulin or play him, terrible use of an asset.

Looking forward to guys like Ponomarev, Broz, and Koivunen showing what they can do in WB, then forcing our hand for call-ups mid season.

Hopefully by December we can move on from the vets, if not sooner.
I'll disagree on both Puustinen and Puljujarvi, and start with the same comment for both players...Sullivan needs to use them correctly and put them in positions to succeed.

Puljujarvi, while not being able to finish like projected based on his draft status, has always had incredible advanced stats. He is a very strong forechecker, has size, will use the body (could stand to use it a bit more for his size). In late March, Puljujarvi had goals in back to back games, and in 8 of his 14 games played to date, he had over 10 minutes of ice time. How did Sullivan reward Puljujarvi after scoring goals in back to back games? Sullivan moved him to LW, and in his last 8 games played, he eclipsed 10 minutes TOI only once, his last game of the season. 5 times he got less than 7 minutes of TOI. Don't move a player to a position he has never played before, and then wonder why he's not producing, especially when you add in his drop in TOI. Sullivan did him no favors.

For Puustinen, Sullivan has done something similar 2 years in a row. His first NHL game in 22-23, he played a strong game and got a nice assist. Sully's reward? Benched and sent back to the AHL. Last season, Puustinen started with 6 points (goal and 5 assists) in his first 9 games. 6 of his first 10 games, he averaged 14 minutes or more TOI. Game #10, Sully dropped his ice time in half down to 7:34 TOI (he still earned an assist in that game). In 10 of his next 13 games, Puustinen got under 10 minutes of ice time. He had one assist during that time period. Then he sat for a game, and then you know what happened??? In his next 30 games, he got under 10 minutes TOI only 6 more times. After that healthy scratch, and with his minutes back up to normal levels, he had a goal and 4 assists in his next 6 games. It's one thing for a player to go cold and see his ice time reduced for a bit. It's extremely odd for a player to be producing over a string of 5-10 games, see their TOI cut, and then have the team scratch their head in disbelief. Puustinen is a shooter. He's ok defensively and in other areas, but his primary skill/weapon is his shot. In the AHL, he feasted in the Ovi PP spot, ripping shots into the net in the AHL. Sullivan tried him for ONE game in that spot, and that's it. Puustinen should be on the 2nd PP in that LW circle, getting setup to rip that shot if the Penguins want to use him correctly.
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Puljujärvi also has a lot of experience from playing for Finland in World Championship etc. where he has been trusted over more prolific guys. Give the guy a chance.
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I would 100% play Puljujarvi and Puustinen instead of Hayes on 3rd line for example.. Eller or Glass as center and Puusty as RW, Puljujarvi as 4th line RW with 10min per game!? But Sullivan of course wont do that.. but Dubas aint doing Pens any favours with compiling all these guys right now,as our last year youngsters again will get pushed out..

I would also still prefer Eller as 3rd line C among all these guys we brought, Hayes, Glass, Lizotte.. but at the moment he is likely on his way out, traded.. I still dont get Hayes move, he is not good skater for Sully system, but..

DOC - Crosby - Rust
Bunting - Malkin - Rakell
Beauvillier - Hayes - Puustinen
Lizotte - Glass - Acciari
x - Poulin, Puljujarvi

First call ups : Ponomarev, Koivunen, Gruden

Probable opening night starting roster
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Dubas has a plan and has been executing it.
I expect that within the next 12 months guys like Rust and Rakell and anyone else over the age of 30 (minus core-maybe) is dealt for more prospects and picks.