** QUICK WARS (KRAFTSTER AND LITT) **

[Senka]

Sorry Senka. Killing you is the only way we'll be able to determine if PS87 is full of crap. Either way, we get a bad RP.

Nah, i completely understand.

[MWB]

Sorry Senka. Killing you is the only way we'll be able to determine if PS87 is full of crap. Either way, we get a bad RP.

Is there a way if we can determine if you're full of crap?

[shafnutz05]

Sorry Senka. Killing you is the only way we'll be able to determine if PS87 is full of crap. Either way, we get a bad RP.

Nah, i completely understand.

And if you are red, then a big I told you so to everyone else

[shafnutz05]

Sorry Senka. Killing you is the only way we'll be able to determine if PS87 is full of crap. Either way, we get a bad RP.

Is there a way if we can determine if you're full of crap?

Well, for starters....

If Senka turns up red, then that means I tried to derail a first day bandwagon onto him when I could have just safely joined the masses and voted for Juice. I understand the "gaining trust" argument, but it would be pretty stupid to sacrifice an ally on the first day for the sake of "gaining trust"

[ulf]

Well if senka isn't the role blocker, we know who to go after. And ps87 even gave away bcs too

For now, unkicksave ps87
Kicksave senka

[MWB]

Nice preemptive counter-argument.

[shafnutz05]

Nice preemptive counter-argument.

You were the first to start voting for me after I cast a vote for Senka, so surely if he comes up red, you have to be looked at a little more closely, no?

[Senka]

I dont know if yu can give away BCS. odds would show BCS is blue, and showed a bond of trust with him. BCS would imagine this info to be true. again it sucks im the one that has to suffer. But PS bought himself another night atleast. When i come up blue, I wouldnt investigate PS87 if i were the real seeer though. I feel like it would be wasting a nite. If he was blue he wouldnt have said this.

[Senka]

Lol quit pointing fingers at my bandwagon for next time. Im not coming back red. lol

[Bob Cole's Senility]

MWB is really trying to get the attention off of Senka and on to Shaf. Hmm...

[shafnutz05]

Yeah, I have role claimed as the seer before, and its a common practice to name people you know are blue as blue to gain trust. I don't think people really buy it anymore though.

[Senka]

heres my thing. if the real angel is out there, i wouldnt protect yourself. Why? because if yu die, Shaf is exposed. If it is shaf, then by all means protect yourself. I think reds are scrambling.

[tfrizz]

Ugh. I REALLY didn't want to do this with shaf coming out, but I am the seer.

I investigated BCS the first night and he came up blue.
I investigated senka the 2nd night and he came up as the Bad Role Blocker -

kicksave senka

If BCS came up blue, why did you vote for him to start day 2? I call shenanigans on your role claim!

kicksave pittsports87

[Senka]

Kicksave Count

7 - shad (doublem, PFIDC, MWB, Troy, BCS, ps87, nan)
5 - ps87 (c2i, rel, Senka, ulf, mac)
1 - BCS (ps87)


Deadline at 10:03PM EST. 11 Needed

EVERYONE NOTICE THIS...
He said BCS is blue and I was red... look!

[Senka]

Good call Frizz. i just noticed that as well. Bad thought out process.

[Senka]

regardless of what everyone decides...
My possible going away notes:

-I have a final at 6pm. I'll be away.
-Im blue. Kill PS87. Shoot him if you can, that way you save the voting patterns during the next day.
-Seer, dont investigate PS87, just kill him. Why waste an investigation. If hes a selfish blue, kill him anyways (although i doubt this). lol
-Angel (if you arent shaf), don't protect yourself. Best thing to do is stay unknown and protect someone you trust. If yu die, shaf is exposed. idk my opinion there.
-Don't look into the BCS-is-blue notion. neither trust or distrust that accusation. Notice my post where he actually voted for BCS, and not me Day2.
-Good luck blues. I'm still unsure why PS87 is trying to buy another night. Its essentially a suicide.

[Bob Cole's Senility]

lololololololol

[MWB]

MWB is really trying to get the attention off of Senka and on to Shaf. Hmm...

I guess you could say that. Of course, you'd have to ignore the part where I've already switched from shaf to senka in my vote.

[MWB]

Nice preemptive counter-argument.

You were the first to start voting for me after I cast a vote for Senka, so surely if he comes up red, you have to be looked at a little more closely, no?

Sure, if you want.

[count2infinity]

I just wanted to know when the deadline was. Wasn't sure if we were going with the 4 hours or 6 hour night phases.

I am gonna kicksave kick bcs. I know it is only day 2, but still he is never this quiet.

Ugh. I REALLY didn't want to do this with shaf coming out, but I am the seer.

I investigated BCS the first night and he came up blue.
I investigated senka the 2nd night and he came up as the Bad Role Blocker -

kicksave senka

i'm not sure i understand your tactics, but i don't want to risk losing a good RP. if you're telling the truth, then senka should be red, if senka is teling the truth, we just kill you tomorrow.

peter ps
kicksave senka

[Bob Cole's Senility]

I think that's seven votes for Senka.

[Senka]

Kicksave Count

7 - shad (doublem, PFIDC, MWB, Troy, BCS, ps87, nan)
5 - ps87 (c2i, rel, Senka, ulf, mac)
1 - BCS (ps87)


Deadline at 10:03PM EST. 11 Needed

EVERYONE NOTICE THIS...
He said BCS is blue and I was red... look!

What isnt there to see here? He said BCS was a known blue, yet still voted for him?? If I get shafted here, I'm gonna e mad at this jury.

[MWB]

i'm not sure i understand your tactics, but i don't want to risk losing a good RP. if you're telling the truth, then senka should be red, if senka is teling the truth, we just kill you tomorrow.

peter ps
kicksave senka

This is my thought as well. If senka is red, then we can assum ps is being truthful. If senka is blue, we know ps is bad, and the only cost is a blue (sorry senka).

[Senka]

thats bad logic. but whatevs. Im blue. hes red. wont lose a green either way.

[MWB]

thats bad logic. but whatevs. Im blue. hes red. wont lose a green either way.

I don't disagree with you, but there's still the possibility that ps is green. There's not that possibility with you.