2024-2025 Season Random Penguins Fodder

[DelPen]

Karlsson will bounce back the most

[Pruezy11881]

Huberdeau is exactly the kind of player this team needs to avoid at all costs.

The return would have to be crazy.. like a slew of first rounders, a prospect and some retention.

You think so?? I think they'd be itching To try and get out of that of possible. He's a proven player with a good center

[KG]

Pens sign Brunicke to his ELC. Good to get a couple of solid prospects in the system this draft. Now we have to develop them.

[Pitts]

[FLPensFan]

I don't believe this is correct regarding the contracts. From what Taylor Haase said, contracts do not count against the 50 contract limit until the player "turns pro." To be considered a pro, you have to play an AHL/NHL game. Brunicke, Howe, and even Yager's contracts will "slide" until they play a pro game. I believe the contracts can slide a maximum of 2 years (Because if you sign a player at 18 to a 3 year ELC, after 2 years, the player should be 20 and be AHL eligible).

EDIT: Well, now I've got Derrick and Taylor Haase discussing this back and forth on Twitter.

[Puck-Lurker]

That's interesting.

I guess that means anyone whose ELC can slide (18-19 yo) will be sent to juniors more likely than not. I'll count that as a certainty we won't be seeing Yager on the roster this year, which is okay.

We have some other guys in the system that will need looks.

[Pens4Life]

Well I hope this is sort it out,so we can sign Murashov..

[Pitts]

Huberdeau is exactly the kind of player this team needs to avoid at all costs.

The return would have to be crazy.. like a slew of first rounders, a prospect and some retention.

You think so?? I think they'd be itching To try and get out of that of possible. He's a proven player with a good center

I think he means included with Huberdeau.

[KG]

Word is out what Columbus is looking for in a Lane trade. Apparently they are willing to retain and want picks and prospects in return.

Wonder if this is a situation where Dubas would move a little of the depth we have acquired for some younger now help? Laine would be a good jolt to the team and power play, assuming he’s ready to go.

We aren’t in a full rebuild and won’t be until Sid moves on. I still think we are going to try to be competitive. At least, I hope.

[Puck-Lurker]

Word is out what Columbus is looking for in a Lane trade. Apparently they are willing to retain and want picks and prospects in return.

Wonder if this is a situation where Dubas would move a little of the depth we have acquired for some younger now help? Laine would be a good jolt to the team and power play, assuming he’s ready to go.

We aren’t in a full rebuild and won’t be until Sid moves on. I still think we are going to try to be competitive. At least, I hope.

Give me some nice picks and maybe send Jarry + Acciari the other way.

Or Laine @ 50% for Jarry and whatever.

I wouldn't be happy to acquire his contract based on his value as a player

[KBone]

I would 100% be on board with the Jarry and a prospect for 50% or more retained Laine.

As for Columbus, what you ask for and what you get are two different things. If that's their starting ask, they're willing to budge to get it done.

[Ericf]

Word is out what Columbus is looking for in a Lane trade. Apparently they are willing to retain and want picks and prospects in return.

Wonder if this is a situation where Dubas would move a little of the depth we have acquired for some younger now help? Laine would be a good jolt to the team and power play, assuming he’s ready to go.

We aren’t in a full rebuild and won’t be until Sid moves on. I still think we are going to try to be competitive. At least, I hope.

If true, they’re not going to take a vet contract like Jarry or Graves or Rakell. The trade then makes no sense for the Pens unless they give up a vet contract to make space for him and only a minor prospect back. He’s already 26. I don’t see the Pens getting it done by giving up even younger players and draft picks

[FLPensFan]

Word is out what Columbus is looking for in a Lane trade. Apparently they are willing to retain and want picks and prospects in return.

Wonder if this is a situation where Dubas would move a little of the depth we have acquired for some younger now help? Laine would be a good jolt to the team and power play, assuming he’s ready to go.

We aren’t in a full rebuild and won’t be until Sid moves on. I still think we are going to try to be competitive. At least, I hope.

If true, they’re not going to take a vet contract like Jarry or Graves or Rakell. The trade then makes no sense for the Pens unless they give up a vet contract to make space for him and only a minor prospect back. He’s already 26. I don’t see the Pens getting it done by giving up even younger players and draft picks

I really don't think Dubas has a big move left in him. I think they want to be "competitive," but even he himself said something to the effect that he's not going to spend a bunch of assets to acquire a piece. If they make the playoffs with what they got, great, but he won't spend futures to get an older piece. I don't really see Laine as plausible at this point. Unless something like a Wahlstrom or Robertson type deal come along, I think what we got is what we'll have on the opening roster.

[KG]

Sprong to Van 1 year $1mill

[Puck-Lurker]

Sprong to Van 1 year $1mill

Talented forward, that only translates to one niche area. Secondary scoring.

He'll continue to move from club to club as long as he puts up goals. Good pickup for Canucks

[largegarlic]

I feel like Laine is almost in the territory where Columbus would have to pay someone to take him. He hasn't played 82 games since the 2018-2019 season, has a huge cap hit, and is just coming out of the player assistance program. Maybe if Columbus retains 50% and would take a mid-round pick and middling prospect or something. Even at 50% retained, it feels like a big gamble.

[FLPensFan]

I feel like Laine is almost in the territory where Columbus would have to pay someone to take him. He hasn't played 82 games since the 2018-2019 season, has a huge cap hit, and is just coming out of the player assistance program. Maybe if Columbus retains 50% and would take a mid-round pick and middling prospect or something. Even at 50% retained, it feels like a big gamble.

This seems accurate. A 3rd/4th and a mid-level prospect for Laine at 50% retained. Right now, there are only 9 teams besides Columbus that could fit his entire cap hit without retention. However....BOS (Swayman), MTL (Barron, Xhejak), CAR (Necas, Jarvis), and DET (Raymond, Seider) all have RFAs left to sign that will take them out of the ability to take on the full cap hit, leaving Anaheim, Buffalo, San Jose, Calgary and Utah as the only teams that could take on his full cap hit.

Looking at this more, Penguins have 3.5M in cap space and Laine at 50% would cost them 4.35M, so Penguins would have to add some salary into the deal. I'd offer Columbus Acciari, Poulin, and a 2027 4th (we have 2) for Laine with 50% retained. I continue to offer up Poulin because I continue to question whether his footspeed is going to hold up in Sullivan's system, and the fact that as usually, this team continually blocks his path.

[KBone]

Is 50% the most you can retain... could they go 60-70%?

[Pens4Life]

I would offer Puustinen, Acciari and 2027 4th for Laine at 50% discount.. thats it! Or even better I would offer Hayes and Acciari, Hayes with his slow skating doesnt fit here atm..

[FLPensFan]

Is 50% the most you can retain... could they go 60-70%?

50% is the most ONE team can retain. 75% is the most that can be retained by multiple teams.
For argument's sake, let's pretend Laine's salary is 8M per season.
Columbus can trade him to Chicago with 50% retained, making Laine's salary now 4M for Chicago and 4M for Columbus.
Chicago can then go ahead and trade him again, and retain 50% of the salary, 2M of the 4M they are paying him.
Now Pittsburgh gets him for only 2M (with 6M, 75%, retained by Columbus and Chicago)

[FLPensFan]

So, I have not come across the interview yet, but in some discussions this weekend, I was informed that, somewhere in a past Dubas press conference he alluded to having DOC staring on the 3rd line with Kevin Hayes. At the end of the season, it seemed like they wanted to give DOC a more permanent top 6 role. If DOC is on the 3rd line, then I would be looking at something like this as the forward setup:

Rakell-Crosby-Rust
Bunting-Malkin-Puustinen
DOC-Hayes-Beauvillier
Eller-Lizotte-Acciari
X-Puljujarvi, Poulin

[KG]

Some rumblings out there that with the Sprong signing in Vancouver, they might trade Hoglander for a top 4 LHD.

MP definitely makes sense there being that JR traded for him and MP is in the last year of his deal.

[FLPensFan]

Some rumblings out there that with the Sprong signing in Vancouver, they might trade Hoglander for a top 4 LHD.

MP definitely makes sense there being that JR traded for him and MP is in the last year of his deal.

Makes perfect sense if we are trying to create the oldest and smallest team in the NHL. There would need to be some other pieces for me to accept a Hoglander for Pettersson swap. Hoglander had 24 goals last year, but only 36 points. He's small. Adding him to Lizotte and Puustinen in a top 12 spot isn't ideal, IMO (although, I'd take him over either of the other 2). The other problem is, Canucks have no cap space. Even retaining 50% of MP this year, the cap doesn't work.

I'd do something around Hoglander, a 2nd, and a 4th/prospect for MP 50% retained. I doubt Vancouver does that, though. And I think we could do a lot better at the trade deadline for MP.

[Antonio]

Unless the team is total hot garbage and MP suffers a very normal or sub normal season and diminishes his value by the deadline. I would have thought last year would have been a good time to move him.

[FLPensFan]

Unless the team is total hot garbage and MP suffers a very normal or sub normal season and diminishes his value by the deadline. I would have thought last year would have been a good time to move him.

Most teams didn't want players with term last year. I'd tell you who the top UFA defensemen are going to be this season, but, with CapFriendly gone...nobody has created an easy to see list, and I'm not inclined to go through all the teams to figure it out.

If a deal with MP isn't reached, I think we can get a 1st and a solid prospect for him at the deadline. And if the 1st is in 2025, really doesn't matter if it is a late first as the draft next year is deep.