Drug Legalization; your view?

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Save money on the sign and just spend it on the thing the tax was created for in the first place.
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shmenguin wrote:
bh wrote:
Can you grow your own out there for your own use?
yeah. i think you can have something like 6 plants growing at a time.
how much herb does 6 plants give you? Would you be able to live off that?
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bh wrote:
shmenguin wrote:
bh wrote:
Can you grow your own out there for your own use?
yeah. i think you can have something like 6 plants growing at a time.
how much herb does 6 plants give you? Would you be able to live off that?
depends on how much you smoke, i suppose. i think for 99% of people, that's plenty. if you're just a part-timer and use it efficiently, you could probably make an eighth last for months. so i hear.
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I think lowering the drinking age to 18 is a priority over legalizing drugs.
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PensFanInDC wrote:
$50-$60 for 1/8 of an ounce. Not usually a discount for increased quantity.

....or so I hear
That's about what it's selling for in CO now. There used to be a 25% price break at the ounce and 1/4 pound levels. I never sold any, but my friends and I used to pool our money to buy bigger and get it cheaper.
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bh wrote:
shmenguin wrote:
bh wrote:
Can you grow your own out there for your own use?
yeah. i think you can have something like 6 plants growing at a time.
how much herb does 6 plants give you? Would you be able to live off that?
Depends how long you let it grow. A single mature outdoor plant can yield out at several pounds.
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Just imagine the pre dinner party conversations of the future.
Forget chardonnay versus malbec.

"Purple Mountain or Angel's Breath?"
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"Honey, clear my schedule. I'm breaking out the white widow"
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You already have something similar with pipe tobacco, where the varieties of tobacco include Latakia, Perique, Burley, White Burley, Cavendish, Virginia, Turkish, Oriental, and Kentucky, not to mention the occasional inclusion of cigar leaf. You can get untold variations of different flavors by using some or all of these types of tobacco and by varying their amounts and the way the tobacco is cut and packed. And that's before you get into adding flavorings like vanilla, cherry, liquor, etc. to make aromatic blends.
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Police chief in MD is hoaxed on pot perils:
Annapolis Police Chief Michael A. Pristoop thought he came prepared when he testified before a Maryland state Senate panel on Tuesday about the perils of legalizing marijuana.

In researching his testimony against two bills before the Judicial Proceedings Committee, Pristoop said, he had found a news article to illustrate the risks of legalization: 37 people in Colorado, he said, had died of marijuana oversdoses on the very day that the state legalized pot.

“When he said it, everyone in the room dropped their laptops,” Sen. Jamie B. Raskin (D-Montgomery) said in an e-mail.

Trouble is, the facts were about as close to the truth as oregano is to pot. After a quick Google search on his laptop, Raskin — the sponsor of the legalization bill that was the subject of the Senate hearing — advised the chief that the Colorado overdose story, despite its deadpan delivery, had been made up for laughs by The Daily Currant, an online comedy magazine.

“I had not seen the spoof before, but it was self-evidently a parody,” Raskin said. “In the absence of real data, Internet hoaxes are becoming marijuana Prohibition’s last stand.”
Pristoop should be relieved of his duties.

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my brother in law brought up the same story a few weeks ago, thinking it was serious. he's an otherwise very smart guy. i felt bad for him.

in related news, yesterday i had a freaking horrible stomach virus. if only there was something out there that could have helped my nausea and headaches. oh, right...pot would have got me stoned, which would have made me high and useless. as opposed to just writhing around in bed all day while my wife had to be basically a single mom who had 2 babies to deal with instead of the usual 1.
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Two months in and Colorado isn't in anarchy. Perhaps marijuana isn't as dangerous as the govt has claimed it to be. The funny thing is how distrust of the federal govt isn't applied to the anti pot rhetoric by staunch conservatives.
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shmenguin wrote:
my brother in law brought up the same story a few weeks ago, thinking it was serious. he's an otherwise very smart guy. i felt bad for him.

in related news, yesterday i had a freaking horrible stomach virus. if only there was something out there that could have helped my nausea and headaches. oh, right...pot would have got me stoned, which would have made me high and useless. as opposed to just writhing around in bed all day while my wife had to be basically a single mom who had 2 babies to deal with instead of the usual 1.
I suffer from migraines and I am prone to stomach issues (no...I am not celiac...) NOTHING has worked as well to get me well and back to normal than marijuana. Without it some of my migraines last 2-3 days with at least 24 of those hours being totally bedridden. When I take 'meds' I am up and about, albeit not totally cured, in about an hour.

As for stomach issues there is nothing better. It eases the pain and nausea and can even allow one to eat something that might be a benefit to them such as some chicken broth or some crackers.

And as I have said before, marijuana is the PERFECT partner in chemo therapy (aka the best cancer treatment that is offered in most cases). It counters most of the chemo side effects.

But yes...let's keep it illegal.
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viva la ben wrote:
Two months in and Colorado isn't in anarchy. Perhaps marijuana isn't as dangerous as the govt has claimed it to be. The funny thing is how distrust of the federal govt isn't applied to the anti pot rhetoric by staunch conservatives.
It’s certainly not new. IIRC, H.L. Mencken referred to the supporters of Prohibition as a coalition of “bootleggers and bluenoses.” The bluenoses thought liquor was sinful and should stay illegal, and the bootleggers wanted liquor to stay illegal because they were making money hand over fist.
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Someone alerted me to Nancy Grace's views on this. That lady needs help.

"Do you want your airline pilot flying while high?"

I don't know, Nancy. Probably not. I don't want him flying drunk either, and alcohol is legal. But it's regulated for pilots.
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Is Marijuana the Next Bubble?
http://www.mainstreet.com/article/money ... _ven=YAHOO" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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So the FDA greenlighted Zohydro, which is pure hydrocodone. These are basically higher dose versions of OxyContin.
The world doesn't need more powerful opiates. Drug companies do however want to make more money.
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columbia wrote:
Is Marijuana the Next Bubble?
http://www.mainstreet.com/article/money ... _ven=YAHOO" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Buy low, sell high? :wink:
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viva la ben wrote:
So the FDA greenlighted Zohydro, which is pure hydrocodone. These are basically higher dose versions of OxyContin.
The world doesn't need more powerful opiates. Drug companies do however want to make more money.
I heard about this too on NPR this morning. One of the doctors in the discussion said an adult with no tolerance could OD on two Zohydro pills and one would probably be enough to kill a child, if they got into a bottle left out. Given that drug's legality, it's nuts that marijuana isn't legal for at least medical purposes.
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literal crazy pills
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See, I don't view this as a legality issue. It seems irresponsible to produce them in the first place.
That should be enough to not do so.
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Why would someone need drugs that strong in the first place?
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MRandall25 wrote:
Why would someone need drugs that strong in the first place?
Oxy provides me very little pain relief. I suppose is rather take one of these than multiple oxy's, if needed.
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From a purely fiscal perspective, fighting marijuana costs umpteen millions of dollars annually. If the federal government were to cave on the fight, they save that money. On top of that, marijuana isn't that expensive to produce unless you're going all out on the hydroponic equipment to create higher end product. In a market not fraught with risk and controlled by criminals it costs next to nothing. If it were sold in a competitive market, it could be taxed to **** and people would THANK the government for doing it because it would still be cheaper to buy than it is now and they would know the money isn't ending up in the pockets of cartels and terrorists. Incidences of DUI might increase marginally but the cost would be more than offset. Don't see a downside financially, and the risks are no greater than any other currently available illegal drug.
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shmenguin wrote:
MRandall25 wrote:
Why would someone need drugs that strong in the first place?
Oxy provides me very little pain relief. I suppose is rather take one of these than multiple oxy's, if needed.
Do you mind if I ask what your condition is? I know Oxy is some strong stuff (half my high school was snorting them :pop: ).