2024-2025 Season Random Penguins Fodder

[Antonio]

Couldn't get a first for a young top line talent who is a proven playoff performer so I would be shocked if he can manage a first for mp

[Daniel]

Couldn't get a first for a young top line talent who is a proven playoff performer so I would be shocked if he can manage a first for mp

Defensemen tend to be more valuable at the deadline and his salary is a bit cheaper. Obviously the amount of teams that want him dictate the price, but I think several teams will want him.

[FLPensFan]

On today's GM Show with Getzoff and Dubas, Dubas touched on the following subjects: Found here

--This road trip is pivotal part of the season. Rough homestand, didn't play well. If they are going to get back into things, this is when it needs to happen as March is fast approaching. Winning 2 of first 3 games is a big help.

--My view is that we should be able to add younger NHL players, prospects, add picks, build up the system, while still competing for a playoff spot. People want it to be binary....contending or rebuilding. It's ambiguous, and we kind of like it that way. The two games we just played showed how it can be done by adding younger players to the mix and getting results.

--Tristan Jarry - (taking through the process to waive Jarry) Number of things, wasn't just about one game...had a great summer, good preseason, but then things started rough. Had talk with Tristan and his people, had conditioning stint, looked like things were fine first few starts, and Sully/Chiodo gave him more runway, then Dubas was evaluating from Jarry's return from AHL to mid January. And it wasn't just about Jarry, it was also about Blomqvist, Murashov and Gauthier...if they hadn't been pushing, then things may have worked out differently. Joel had a great year last year, played well when Ned was injured, and he played strong in WBS and was pushing to come back up. With Joel pushing, felt it was best to bring Joel up and let Tristan go back down to WBS not for just a week or two, but to really go down there and work on things. (Was asked if Tristan is still an option in the future). Dubas says tougher situation because of the media attention it has received. To be fair to Tristan, plan was to go down, and build up like you are in early 20s. Earn the net in WBS, put time in games and in practice. Lot of WBS games coming up will give Tristan and Murashov a lot of games to prove themselves. Larsson is now week to week with his injury.

--(Getzoff talks about Jack Campbell, Ville Husso in similar situations) Can't shelter the goalie like you can other players....others, you can move down the lineup, only play them in certain situations. Can't go that with goalie. Been used more of late around the league, league average save percentage continues to drop (was .915 10 years ago, now right around .900). Tristan to use this as a full reset to build himself back up (said earlier the initial stint was like a mechanic tuneup)

--Talking about Blomqvist, between end of last year to date. Joel has done everything we asked of him. Different on Ned too, as he now has a young guy team has invested in pushing Ned, versus sharing net with another established vet.

--(Few young goalies waiting in the wings) 4 younger guys (says Larsson isn't that old), Gauthier ELC up after this year and they need to make a decision there. Didn't say much else here, more talking/applauding development with Chiodo and Kain Tsisi.

--(Getzoff brings up rumors of serious movement of players by the Penguins) Always a lot of conversation, and every team in the league knows what we are trying to achieve here...bring in younger NHLers, prospects, picks, to help the core of the team win more time, then set the organization up for the long range future. To say fire sale or retain money on very long term deals...it's not accurate. We've had lots of conversations, but are we telling teams everything must go? No, we are not.

--(asked about his scouting and Dubas liking to go on trips). Talked about WHL being a strong league this year, and that the team has a lot of draft picks. Could have a day off, instead he's going to WHL game tonight, rejoin the team for the game, then Friday after practice he'll go to another WHL game, meet team back in Seattle, then Saturday is great opportunity because 1pm PST game, then has a number of WHL options close to Seattle for that evening.

--My schedule evolves. If we get back further in contention, I'll need to spend more time with the team. (Getzoff mentioned that Dubas may see more prospects live than other GMs, which would help him with drafting).

--(Getzoff asked about Koivunen, and follows up with Broz) Ville is highly skilled winger, he's always in the middle of everything and highly competitive. Sometimes he pushes the envelope and sometimes he tears it (penalties). When not scoring, he's competing, getting under skin of players, going to the net. Broz, it was a rougher ride for him (NCAA, NIL, transfer portal). Mentioned some staff that did a great job keeping him on track through NCAA to come to WBS. Dubas talked about seeing Broz last year before coming to WBS, and how staff at his NCAA team helped develop him. (Note, appears that Broz has mono, which is why he's been out).

--(Getzoff asks about Glass and Tomasino) Cody impressed in training camp, being moved to center immediately. Gives him versatility. He was a high scoring junior player and high draft pick, but he has realized that PK, defensive ability is more his path to success. He may have to pass up some of the offense at first; now we want to keep the defense that he's built up, and start bringing more offense while not losing defensive side. Tomasino....he got squeezed out of Nashville after some success there. Here, he's playing with more speed, not being a pocket passer, he's getting on the move, getting through neutral zone. That has been the coaching staff helping them evolve.

[Antonio]

Couldn't get a first for a young top line talent who is a proven playoff performer so I would be shocked if he can manage a first for mp

Defensemen tend to be more valuable at the deadline and his salary is a bit cheaper. Obviously the amount of teams that want him dictate the price, but I think several teams will want him.

I mean, you are not wrong on all those points but I just think if KD could not manage to get a first for Jake who by all accounts should have been an EXTREMELY desirable target, I don't see MP bringing in a 1st, even with all those factors. We shall see. Hopefully the return for him is incredible.

[FLPensFan]

Couldn't get a first for a young top line talent who is a proven playoff performer so I would be shocked if he can manage a first for mp

Defensemen tend to be more valuable at the deadline and his salary is a bit cheaper. Obviously the amount of teams that want him dictate the price, but I think several teams will want him.

I mean, you are not wrong on all those points but I just think if KD could not manage to get a first for Jake who by all accounts should have been an EXTREMELY desirable target, I don't see MP bringing in a 1st, even with all those factors. We shall see. Hopefully the return for him is incredible.

Honestly, I think Dubas wanted the prospects more than the 1st round pick. Let's not forget, technically he DID get a 1st in the deal, but it was conditional and the condition was set too high. Even if they set the condition to making the ECF, they still would have missed the 1st.

On Pettersson, the biggest thing he has going for him is, there aren't many top end UFA d-men at the deadline. On non-playoff teams, you have Provorov, Pettersson, Petry, and Alec Martinez. Of those, only Pettersson and Provorov are under 30....and there were rumors CBJ may not move Provorov (CBJ was in WC spot a few days ago, and is only a point out right now). So Pettersson could end up being the best, youngest solid top 4 d-man that isn't currently playing for a playoff contender.

The downside, however, is that when I reviewed a lot of the potential teams for Pettersson, a lot of team already have a solid 1st and 2nd pair LD, where Pettersson may not be able to unseat the incumbent. Pettersson would instantly make a 3rd pairing much more usable in the playoffs. He's not a 5/6 d-man, more of a 3/4 type of guy who the Penguins often use as a #2 beside Letang.

I think the potential is there for the Penguins to get a 1st for Pettersson, if that is what Dubas wants. I think he has enough draft capital as well that he could do it. Maybe a team is willing to do a 2nd and a prospect, but Dubas throws in a 3rd with Pettersson to upgrade the 2nd to a 1st.

[Daniel]

Couldn't get a first for a young top line talent who is a proven playoff performer so I would be shocked if he can manage a first for mp

Defensemen tend to be more valuable at the deadline and his salary is a bit cheaper. Obviously the amount of teams that want him dictate the price, but I think several teams will want him.

I mean, you are not wrong on all those points but I just think if KD could not manage to get a first for Jake who by all accounts should have been an EXTREMELY desirable target, I don't see MP bringing in a 1st, even with all those factors. We shall see. Hopefully the return for him is incredible.

Honestly, I think Dubas wanted the prospects more than the 1st round pick. Let's not forget, technically he DID get a 1st in the deal, but it was conditional and the condition was set too high. Even if they set the condition to making the ECF, they still would have missed the 1st.

On Pettersson, the biggest thing he has going for him is, there aren't many top end UFA d-men at the deadline. On non-playoff teams, you have Provorov, Pettersson, Petry, and Alec Martinez. Of those, only Pettersson and Provorov are under 30....and there were rumors CBJ may not move Provorov (CBJ was in WC spot a few days ago, and is only a point out right now). So Pettersson could end up being the best, youngest solid top 4 d-man that isn't currently playing for a playoff contender.

The downside, however, is that when I reviewed a lot of the potential teams for Pettersson, a lot of team already have a solid 1st and 2nd pair LD, where Pettersson may not be able to unseat the incumbent. Pettersson would instantly make a 3rd pairing much more usable in the playoffs. He's not a 5/6 d-man, more of a 3/4 type of guy who the Penguins often use as a #2 beside Letang.

I think the potential is there for the Penguins to get a 1st for Pettersson, if that is what Dubas wants. I think he has enough draft capital as well that he could do it. Maybe a team is willing to do a 2nd and a prospect, but Dubas throws in a 3rd with Pettersson to upgrade the 2nd to a 1st.

I think he's a #2 in the same way Dumoulin was. Just a good steady guy that plays defense. If another team uses him as a 3rd pairing, that defense is probably very deep and a Stanley Cup caliber defense, at least on the left side. Last year Dubas probably had the attitude of getting as many 2nd/3rd line or 2nd pairing guys as possible just to get numbers in WBS and the team has been very good this year. I imagine his tactic might go from stocking the cupboards to trying to get a blue chip top line player. At least I hope so, seems logical.

[Wyopen]

Anyone, Ovechkin had another EN goal last night. This seems to be a common occurrence. Does anyone know how many EN goals Ovi has vs 99? I get the impression that Ovi is taking the easy road to the record by “padding” his goal stats. Thanks.

[Antonio]

62 for O
56 for G

[Wyopen]

62 for O
56 for G

Thanks Antonio.

[KG]

Interesting?

[KG]

[KG]

Bemstrom with the HT tonight. Another WBS win.

Koivunen with 4 assists.

[Victor]

Bemstrom with the HT tonight. Another WBS win.

Koivunen with 4 assists.

What's most surprising is Jarry only allowed one goal in 17 SA.

[Antonio]

Was it on the 1st shot?

[Pens4Life]

Bemstrom 34 - 19+18 = 37, on the season, pretty good, Koivunen follows with 36 - 10 + 22 = 32

[Puck-Lurker]

Bemstrom 34 - 19+18 = 37, on the season, pretty good, Koivunen follows with 36 - 10 + 22 = 32

Bemström is quad A.. still a better option than Nieto and Acciari.

[DelPen]

DK losing his **** on Jesse Marshall was pathetic on Saturday. I read what Taylor Hasse wrote and I didn’t see anything that said WHY is had to be Pickering. We all know he is waiver exempt but there wasn’t anything else said as to what that has to do with sending him and not Shea or Graves. Unless that means we had to waive them first and couldn’t make a move for 24 hours and Pickering can bypass that then it makes sense. But we usually discuss waiver implications on players not needing claimed and not turn around time of moves.

And even if she did spell it out he acted like everyone should click through to her links to his site since he made a choice to stop posting actual information on X because it’s so “toxic” or that everyone needs to follow his people to get the real news.

Just a really bizarre attack they he quadrupled down on throughout the day and then apologized later I’m guessing after someone told him who he was arguing with.

I haven’t met Jesse in real life but I would consider him a friend and I have NEVER seen him attack anyone in any capacity even in times where it could be completely justified. He’s one of the most knowledgeable and courteous people in media and it was a really bad look by DK.

[FLPensFan]

DK losing his **** on Jesse Marshall was pathetic on Saturday. I read what Taylor Hasse wrote and I didn’t see anything that said WHY is had to be Pickering. We all know he is waiver exempt but there wasn’t anything else said as to what that has to do with sending him and not Shea or Graves. Unless that means we had to waive them first and couldn’t make a move for 24 hours and Pickering can bypass that then it makes sense. But we usually discuss waiver implications on players not needing claimed and not turn around time of moves.

And even if she did spell it out he acted like everyone should click through to her links to his site since he made a choice to stop posting actual information on X because it’s so “toxic” or that everyone needs to follow his people to get the real news.

Just a really bizarre attack they he quadrupled down on throughout the day and then apologized later I’m guessing after someone told him who he was arguing with.

I haven’t met Jesse in real life but I would consider him a friend and I have NEVER seen him attack anyone in any capacity even in times where it could be completely justified. He’s one of the most knowledgeable and courteous people in media and it was a really bad look by DK.

I saw that. Immediately canceled my DK subscription after that went down, and sent Jesse a DM on X. Told him not to let it bother him, and he did the right thing standing his ground. Sure enough, the apology came later.

The "someone" that told DK he **** up royally and totally misread the situation was his wife, from what I can tell.

Any subscription I have (Athletic, DK, Kingerski) are only acquired when they offer a deep discount, but DK's has become worthless. He opened all the articles up for free. Subscription only gets you "ad-free" and allows you to post in their totally not awesome community.

I think since DK changed his subscription model, DK and Taylor have become obsessed over things, and not in a good way. They are stalking people on Twitter, yelling at them for mentioning anything DK's site might have said and flaming them for not linking to it. Taylor has become quite rude and aggressive in their commenting community. Apparently, you are not allowed to think Puljujarvi deserved more playing time or more of a shot.

But hey, this list (which needs quite a few more names added)....all these people gotta be wrong and DK right, RIGHT????

[Pitts]

DK losing his **** on Jesse Marshall was pathetic on Saturday. I read what Taylor Hasse wrote and I didn’t see anything that said WHY is had to be Pickering. We all know he is waiver exempt but there wasn’t anything else said as to what that has to do with sending him and not Shea or Graves. Unless that means we had to waive them first and couldn’t make a move for 24 hours and Pickering can bypass that then it makes sense. But we usually discuss waiver implications on players not needing claimed and not turn around time of moves.

And even if she did spell it out he acted like everyone should click through to her links to his site since he made a choice to stop posting actual information on X because it’s so “toxic” or that everyone needs to follow his people to get the real news.

Just a really bizarre attack they he quadrupled down on throughout the day and then apologized later I’m guessing after someone told him who he was arguing with.

I haven’t met Jesse in real life but I would consider him a friend and I have NEVER seen him attack anyone in any capacity even in times where it could be completely justified. He’s one of the most knowledgeable and courteous people in media and it was a really bad look by DK.

Dejan is the most narcissistic a-hole in Pgh sports media. I unsubscribed from his site years ago due to his issues. I met Jesse a long time ago - before he became what he is today - Jesse is a genuine, beautiful person. Good man.

[Pitts]

Spoiler:

DK losing his **** on Jesse Marshall was pathetic on Saturday. I read what Taylor Hasse wrote and I didn’t see anything that said WHY is had to be Pickering. We all know he is waiver exempt but there wasn’t anything else said as to what that has to do with sending him and not Shea or Graves. Unless that means we had to waive them first and couldn’t make a move for 24 hours and Pickering can bypass that then it makes sense. But we usually discuss waiver implications on players not needing claimed and not turn around time of moves.

And even if she did spell it out he acted like everyone should click through to her links to his site since he made a choice to stop posting actual information on X because it’s so “toxic” or that everyone needs to follow his people to get the real news.

Just a really bizarre attack they he quadrupled down on throughout the day and then apologized later I’m guessing after someone told him who he was arguing with.

I haven’t met Jesse in real life but I would consider him a friend and I have NEVER seen him attack anyone in any capacity even in times where it could be completely justified. He’s one of the most knowledgeable and courteous people in media and it was a really bad look by DK.

I saw that. Immediately canceled my DK subscription after that went down, and sent Jesse a DM on X. Told him not to let it bother him, and he did the right thing standing his ground. Sure enough, the apology came later.

The "someone" that told DK he **** up royally and totally misread the situation was his wife, from what I can tell.

Any subscription I have (Athletic, DK, Kingerski) are only acquired when they offer a deep discount, but DK's has become worthless. He opened all the articles up for free. Subscription only gets you "ad-free" and allows you to post in their totally not awesome community.

I think since DK changed his subscription model, DK and Taylor have become obsessed over things, and not in a good way. They are stalking people on Twitter, yelling at them for mentioning anything DK's site might have said and flaming them for not linking to it. Taylor has become quite rude and aggressive in their commenting community. Apparently, you are not allowed to think Puljujarvi deserved more playing time or more of a shot.

But hey, this list (which needs quite a few more names added)....all these people gotta be wrong and DK right, RIGHT????

Even Madden has seems to have turned on Dejan.

[FLPensFan]

Spoiler:

DK losing his **** on Jesse Marshall was pathetic on Saturday. I read what Taylor Hasse wrote and I didn’t see anything that said WHY is had to be Pickering. We all know he is waiver exempt but there wasn’t anything else said as to what that has to do with sending him and not Shea or Graves. Unless that means we had to waive them first and couldn’t make a move for 24 hours and Pickering can bypass that then it makes sense. But we usually discuss waiver implications on players not needing claimed and not turn around time of moves.

And even if she did spell it out he acted like everyone should click through to her links to his site since he made a choice to stop posting actual information on X because it’s so “toxic” or that everyone needs to follow his people to get the real news.

Just a really bizarre attack they he quadrupled down on throughout the day and then apologized later I’m guessing after someone told him who he was arguing with.

I haven’t met Jesse in real life but I would consider him a friend and I have NEVER seen him attack anyone in any capacity even in times where it could be completely justified. He’s one of the most knowledgeable and courteous people in media and it was a really bad look by DK.

I saw that. Immediately canceled my DK subscription after that went down, and sent Jesse a DM on X. Told him not to let it bother him, and he did the right thing standing his ground. Sure enough, the apology came later.

The "someone" that told DK he **** up royally and totally misread the situation was his wife, from what I can tell.

Any subscription I have (Athletic, DK, Kingerski) are only acquired when they offer a deep discount, but DK's has become worthless. He opened all the articles up for free. Subscription only gets you "ad-free" and allows you to post in their totally not awesome community.

I think since DK changed his subscription model, DK and Taylor have become obsessed over things, and not in a good way. They are stalking people on Twitter, yelling at them for mentioning anything DK's site might have said and flaming them for not linking to it. Taylor has become quite rude and aggressive in their commenting community. Apparently, you are not allowed to think Puljujarvi deserved more playing time or more of a shot.

But hey, this list (which needs quite a few more names added)....all these people gotta be wrong and DK right, RIGHT????

Even Madden has seems to have turned on Dejan.

They kind of turned on each other. Madden outright questioned his professional reporting over his stances on the Pirates, and Dejan had a meltdown.

[dark_forces]

Spoiler:

DK losing his **** on Jesse Marshall was pathetic on Saturday. I read what Taylor Hasse wrote and I didn’t see anything that said WHY is had to be Pickering. We all know he is waiver exempt but there wasn’t anything else said as to what that has to do with sending him and not Shea or Graves. Unless that means we had to waive them first and couldn’t make a move for 24 hours and Pickering can bypass that then it makes sense. But we usually discuss waiver implications on players not needing claimed and not turn around time of moves.

And even if she did spell it out he acted like everyone should click through to her links to his site since he made a choice to stop posting actual information on X because it’s so “toxic” or that everyone needs to follow his people to get the real news.

Just a really bizarre attack they he quadrupled down on throughout the day and then apologized later I’m guessing after someone told him who he was arguing with.

I haven’t met Jesse in real life but I would consider him a friend and I have NEVER seen him attack anyone in any capacity even in times where it could be completely justified. He’s one of the most knowledgeable and courteous people in media and it was a really bad look by DK.

I saw that. Immediately canceled my DK subscription after that went down, and sent Jesse a DM on X. Told him not to let it bother him, and he did the right thing standing his ground. Sure enough, the apology came later.

The "someone" that told DK he **** up royally and totally misread the situation was his wife, from what I can tell.

Any subscription I have (Athletic, DK, Kingerski) are only acquired when they offer a deep discount, but DK's has become worthless. He opened all the articles up for free. Subscription only gets you "ad-free" and allows you to post in their totally not awesome community.

I think since DK changed his subscription model, DK and Taylor have become obsessed over things, and not in a good way. They are stalking people on Twitter, yelling at them for mentioning anything DK's site might have said and flaming them for not linking to it. Taylor has become quite rude and aggressive in their commenting community. Apparently, you are not allowed to think Puljujarvi deserved more playing time or more of a shot.

But hey, this list (which needs quite a few more names added)....all these people gotta be wrong and DK right, RIGHT????

Even Madden has seems to have turned on Dejan.

They kind of turned on each other. Madden outright questioned his professional reporting over his stances on the Pirates, and Dejan had a meltdown.

Madden usually knows which way the wind is blowing. I was done with DK after the final time Madden had him on his show. He comes off as smug and likely insufferable to work for. A man who's never wrong.

[Gunnerfan]

DK losing his **** on Jesse Marshall was pathetic on Saturday. I read what Taylor Hasse wrote and I didn’t see anything that said WHY is had to be Pickering. We all know he is waiver exempt but there wasn’t anything else said as to what that has to do with sending him and not Shea or Graves. Unless that means we had to waive them first and couldn’t make a move for 24 hours and Pickering can bypass that then it makes sense. But we usually discuss waiver implications on players not needing claimed and not turn around time of moves.

And even if she did spell it out he acted like everyone should click through to her links to his site since he made a choice to stop posting actual information on X because it’s so “toxic” or that everyone needs to follow his people to get the real news.

Just a really bizarre attack they he quadrupled down on throughout the day and then apologized later I’m guessing after someone told him who he was arguing with.

I haven’t met Jesse in real life but I would consider him a friend and I have NEVER seen him attack anyone in any capacity even in times where it could be completely justified. He’s one of the most knowledgeable and courteous people in media and it was a really bad look by DK.

Dejan is the most narcissistic a-hole in Pgh sports media. I unsubscribed from his site years ago due to his issues. I met Jesse a long time ago - before he became what he is today - Jesse is a genuine, beautiful person. Good man.

Oh I have a DK story and how I put him in his place. It was Veterans Day, and on his site message board, I stated that I, and many veterans, do not like the "thank you for your service" from people as it makes us feel uncomfortable at times and makes us think about our friends that didn't make it or who have taken their own lives since. He had the gall to tell me I was wrong when it's a known fact in my community. Not all, but some of us think that way. So, I sent a few articles my friends and others wrote explaining why some of us think that way. Again, he said that it was untrue and that he had never heard that. We went back and forth until his editor came and saved him. He is a B#@% of the highest order. I canceled my subscription to that creepy dude's website. And he is a creepy dude.

[Tico Rick]

Malkin put on injured reserve, Puljujarvi called up. So does O'Connor move to center?

[Cow_Master66]

DK losing his **** on Jesse Marshall was pathetic on Saturday. I read what Taylor Hasse wrote and I didn’t see anything that said WHY is had to be Pickering. We all know he is waiver exempt but there wasn’t anything else said as to what that has to do with sending him and not Shea or Graves. Unless that means we had to waive them first and couldn’t make a move for 24 hours and Pickering can bypass that then it makes sense. But we usually discuss waiver implications on players not needing claimed and not turn around time of moves.

And even if she did spell it out he acted like everyone should click through to her links to his site since he made a choice to stop posting actual information on X because it’s so “toxic” or that everyone needs to follow his people to get the real news.

Just a really bizarre attack they he quadrupled down on throughout the day and then apologized later I’m guessing after someone told him who he was arguing with.

I haven’t met Jesse in real life but I would consider him a friend and I have NEVER seen him attack anyone in any capacity even in times where it could be completely justified. He’s one of the most knowledgeable and courteous people in media and it was a really bad look by DK.

Dejan is the most narcissistic a-hole in Pgh sports media. I unsubscribed from his site years ago due to his issues. I met Jesse a long time ago - before he became what he is today - Jesse is a genuine, beautiful person. Good man.

Oh I have a DK story and how I put him in his place. It was Veterans Day, and on his site message board, I stated that I, and many veterans, do not like the "thank you for your service" from people as it makes us feel uncomfortable at times and makes us think about our friends that didn't make it or who have taken their own lives since. He had the gall to tell me I was wrong when it's a known fact in my community. Not all, but some of us think that way. So, I sent a few articles my friends and others wrote explaining why some of us think that way. Again, he said that it was untrue and that he had never heard that. We went back and forth until his editor came and saved him. He is a B#@% of the highest order. I canceled my subscription to that creepy dude's website. And he is a creepy dude.

Sheesh, sorry to hear that happened....I also had no idea vets felt this way, and now I feel terrible, because I say that to many people, both whom I know and don't know. Either way, utmost respect for you and yours internet friend. Stay well!