Cody Glass to PIT

[Pitts]

Puljujärvi also has a lot of experience from playing for Finland in World Championship etc. where he has been trusted over more prolific guys. Give the guy a chance.

He's had a chance with 3 different NHL teams already - most especially with the one that drafted him. How much more of chance does he need?

[DeHaven162]

I think these are the type of deals we 100% should be making. Young, little term, acquire picks and futures.

In regards to the glut of forwards, and pushing our younger players out, who is it really affecting? Puustinen? Poulin? These guys aren't NHL regulars. I love Puustinen, but he's at best a fill in/mix in guy. He disappears for long stretches as a regular. Poulin, meh. I would like to see Ponomarev get a shot, not gifted a spot, but a chance to see. The guy made the Canes last year for a bit.

Eller exceeded my expectations last year that's for sure. But where this team is at and heading, he's just not needed. I tend to think the same about Acciari, but would be okay with Acciari being 4W.

DOC - Crosby - Rust
Bunting - Malkin - Rakell
Beauvillier - Hayes - Glass
Lizotte - Ponomarev - Acciari OR Puljujarvi/Poulin/Puustinen/Bemstrom - Lizotte - Acciari

[Ohio_Pens_fan]

I hinted at this scenario some time ago: we’ll start the the season at around 5-12-3, THEN they’ll replace Sullivan. I know some people’s hands are tied but the quicker we make real changes, the quicker we can rise back up. It’s really frustrating as a fan watching these band-aid moves when surgery is needed. I think that’s enough cliches and metaphors for one day. Venting over, carry on.

[Dynasty1970]

I hinted at this scenario some time ago: we’ll start the the season at around 5-12-3, THEN they’ll replace Sullivan. I know some people’s hands are tied but the quicker we make real changes, the quicker we can rise back up. It’s really frustrating as a fan watching these band-aid moves when surgery is needed. I think that’s enough cliches and metaphors for one day. Venting over, carry on.

FIRE SULLY!!!!!

[KG]

Dubas has a plan and has been executing it.
I expect that within the next 12 months guys like Rust and Rakell and anyone else over the age of 30 (minus core-maybe) is dealt for more prospects and picks.

I'm real curious to see what he winds up doing with MP. He is going to be 29 when his contract expires this season. Doesn't seem to fit into the long-term plan. Although KD did say this isn't going to be a rip it down to the studs rebuild.

I wouldn't rush to sign MP. Let's see how the season goes and what the trade market looks like for him. D men always go for a nice chunk around the deadline. Especially top 4 d men.

[KG]

I think these are the type of deals we 100% should be making. Young, little term, acquire picks and futures.

In regards to the glut of forwards, and pushing our younger players out, who is it really affecting? Puustinen? Poulin? These guys aren't NHL regulars. I love Puustinen, but he's at best a fill in/mix in guy. He disappears for long stretches as a regular. Poulin, meh. I would like to see Ponomarev get a shot, not gifted a spot, but a chance to see. The guy made the Canes last year for a bit.

Eller exceeded my expectations last year that's for sure. But where this team is at and heading, he's just not needed. I tend to think the same about Acciari, but would be okay with Acciari being 4W.

DOC - Crosby - Rust
Bunting - Malkin - Rakell
Beauvillier - Hayes - Glass
Lizotte - Ponomarev - Acciari OR Puljujarvi/Poulin/Puustinen/Bemstrom - Lizotte - Acciari

I agree and I like your lines. I'm not really overly high on Puustinen either. Certainly not giving him the 3RW spot. He has to earn it. The coach doesn't trust him defensively and we all know how that usually plays out. If Poulin is good enough to make the Pens 4th line, they will make room for him. If he's not, then it is what it is at this point. Cut your losses. I think you have to move Eller or Acciari at this point. Eller would be much easier to move for a better asset as he only has 1 year left and is a better player than Acciari.

I'm just happy we won't go into next season watching Carter and Smith float around the ice not giving a damn. And we will have a much better bottom 6. No more Harkins-Carter-Nieto type of crap.

[Cow_Master66]

Love the stockpiling of picks. The fact that acquiring Cody Glass is even a talking point should show where this team is as far as the 2024 season goes. 2025 and 26 won't be much better (likely worse actually) but hopefully this season sees the unloading of some of the key pieces for more prospects/futures.

[thehockeyguru]

Dubas has a plan and has been executing it.
I expect that within the next 12 months guys like Rust and Rakell and anyone else over the age of 30 (minus core-maybe) is dealt for more prospects and picks.

I'm real curious to see what he winds up doing with MP. He is going to be 29 when his contract expires this season. Doesn't seem to fit into the long-term plan. Although KD did say this isn't going to be a rip it down to the studs rebuild.

I wouldn't rush to sign MP. Let's see how the season goes and what the trade market looks like for him. D men always go for a nice chunk around the deadline. Especially top 4 d men.

It should be a no brainer on Pettersson, move him .

[largegarlic]

Love the stockpiling of picks. The fact that acquiring Cody Glass is even a talking point should show where this team is as far as the 2024 season goes. 2025 and 26 won't be much better (likely worse actually) but hopefully this season sees the unloading of some of the key pieces for more prospects/futures.

That's how I feel too. This season is likely to be like the last couple--some good stretches outweighed by bad stretches and falling a little short of the playoffs. Next year might be worse on ice, but it might be more interesting insofar as younger guys like Pickering, Blomqvist, Koivunen, Ponomarev, maybe Yager, etc., will hopefully be in the NHL, and we can start seeing if any of those have "it". Maybe if things go well with the young guys, they can give Crosby a last hurrah playoff appearance in 2026-2027.

[FLPensFan]

Puljujärvi also has a lot of experience from playing for Finland in World Championship etc. where he has been trusted over more prolific guys. Give the guy a chance.

He's had a chance with 3 different NHL teams already - most especially with the one that drafted him. How much more of chance does he need?

Depends on how narrow of a view you want to look at things regarding JP. It's the common "overdrafted, not a superstar" syndrome. Because of his size, overall game, and scoring potential, he was top 5 ranked. But he never lit up the score sheet for Karpat in Liiga. He was 59th in scoring his draft year (Laine was 37th). It's hard to judge and translate scoring at that level to the NHL. What pumped up JP was that he had a hat trick for Finland in the U18 gold medal game, and he was MVP of their World Juniors team earlier in the year.

He had 12, 14, and 15 goals with Edmonton, with 36 points as his career high. There's nothing wrong with those numbers as a bottom 6 player. That's solid 3rd line production. He's not Tanner Glass or Craig Adams out there, but he's not Laine or Ovi or Guentzel in terms of finishing, either. If you set the proper expectations and use him the proper way, he should be a valuable asset. He's big (we lack size), he's a tenacious forechecker and very good defensively. Used on the RW on a 3rd line role, I see no reason why he can't be a 15 goal, 30-35 point player. Honestly, with the players we have, I think one of the 3rd line spots and one of the 4th line spots should be more of a "platoon" situation, playing the hot hand. Puljujarvi/Puustinen on the 3rd line, Acciari and Puljujarvi/Glass on 4th line RW.

Why does he need to show something else? He played a whopping 17 games for Carolina, and we know he was already showing signs of his hip issues at that point. Dubas signed him for 2 years. Not just last year and then toss him...they signed him this year, too. To not use him at this point would be absurd.

[FLPensFan]

Dubas has a plan and has been executing it.
I expect that within the next 12 months guys like Rust and Rakell and anyone else over the age of 30 (minus core-maybe) is dealt for more prospects and picks.

I'm real curious to see what he winds up doing with MP. He is going to be 29 when his contract expires this season. Doesn't seem to fit into the long-term plan. Although KD did say this isn't going to be a rip it down to the studs rebuild.

I wouldn't rush to sign MP. Let's see how the season goes and what the trade market looks like for him. D men always go for a nice chunk around the deadline. Especially top 4 d men.

It should be a no brainer on Pettersson, move him .

Crosby isn't doing Pettersson any favors. Whatever the delay is in signing Crosby, it hurts MP more than anyone. Dubas isn't focusing on signing MP until Crosby contract is done.

I say trade MP at the deadline. He should be able to get a 1st round pick. Rakell, I think they need him to bounce back to be able to move him. He's got 3 more years left after this upcoming season. He may be hard to move, or hard to move for a good return. Rust...even though he loses his trade protection after this season, I feel like the Penguins may need to keep him around to keep Crosby from totally losing it (after trading Guentzel). But Rust is a prime candidate to get moved next summer. Maybe DET will still want him.

[pfim]

Love the stockpiling of picks. The fact that acquiring Cody Glass is even a talking point should show where this team is as far as the 2024 season goes. 2025 and 26 won't be much better (likely worse actually) but hopefully this season sees the unloading of some of the key pieces for more prospects/futures.

It will be interesting to see if he's stockpiling picks to replenish the talent in the system, or if he's stockpiling them to add to the current roster at some point this year.

[Pitts]

Dubas has a plan and has been executing it.
I expect that within the next 12 months guys like Rust and Rakell and anyone else over the age of 30 (minus core-maybe) is dealt for more prospects and picks.

I'm real curious to see what he winds up doing with MP. He is going to be 29 when his contract expires this season. Doesn't seem to fit into the long-term plan. Although KD did say this isn't going to be a rip it down to the studs rebuild.

I wouldn't rush to sign MP. Let's see how the season goes and what the trade market looks like for him. D men always go for a nice chunk around the deadline. Especially top 4 d men.

It should be a no brainer on Pettersson, move him .

As much as I like him, agreed. Heck, they moved Guentzel ... MP should be expecting it. We have a lot of younger D that needs to be tested the following season with real NHL minutes.

[Pitts]

Puljujärvi also has a lot of experience from playing for Finland in World Championship etc. where he has been trusted over more prolific guys. Give the guy a chance.

He's had a chance with 3 different NHL teams already - most especially with the one that drafted him. How much more of chance does he need?

Depends on how narrow of a view you want to look at things regarding JP. It's the common "overdrafted, not a superstar" syndrome. Because of his size, overall game, and scoring potential, he was top 5 ranked. But he never lit up the score sheet for Karpat in Liiga. He was 59th in scoring his draft year (Laine was 37th). It's hard to judge and translate scoring at that level to the NHL. What pumped up JP was that he had a hat trick for Finland in the U18 gold medal game, and he was MVP of their World Juniors team earlier in the year.

He had 12, 14, and 15 goals with Edmonton, with 36 points as his career high. There's nothing wrong with those numbers as a bottom 6 player. That's solid 3rd line production. He's not Tanner Glass or Craig Adams out there, but he's not Laine or Ovi or Guentzel in terms of finishing, either. If you set the proper expectations and use him the proper way, he should be a valuable asset. He's big (we lack size), he's a tenacious forechecker and very good defensively. Used on the RW on a 3rd line role, I see no reason why he can't be a 15 goal, 30-35 point player. Honestly, with the players we have, I think one of the 3rd line spots and one of the 4th line spots should be more of a "platoon" situation, playing the hot hand. Puljujarvi/Puustinen on the 3rd line, Acciari and Puljujarvi/Glass on 4th line RW.

Why does he need to show something else? He played a whopping 17 games for Carolina, and we know he was already showing signs of his hip issues at that point. Dubas signed him for 2 years. Not just last year and then toss him...they signed him this year, too. To not use him at this point would be absurd.

He had one game last year that I would say he was very effective - it was his revenge game against Carolina, right? Now, I'm not saying he needed that level of commitment every game, but outside those 60 minutes, he's been damn near invisible. Sorry, not sorry - he's taking up space IMO. Maybe he will prove me wrong this season - perhaps the hip recovery was still ongoing. IDK?

[Antonio]

I would say "invisible" would be better placed on Jansen Harkins or whatever his name was. The problem is, and I know it's long past dead, but it's just unavoidable talking about this team at all without always coming to the real issue in my opinion. Sullivan. When one absolutely worthless hunk of **** who "has a hard shot" plays no matter what and entire segments of other players are always starting massively behind the curve because they are disliked or not part of Sullivan's favorites club for whatever reason, it's unrealistic to label certain players as getting a "real chance". Some players get placed in a high stress situation where the slightest imperfection on one shift or the failure to score 5 goals with 3 minutes of TOI, yields banishment and that's IF they even get those 3 minutes to begin with. Other players show NOTHING night after night after night after night and that imbecile would never cut their minutes let alone their roster spot. Puustinen put up, what, 7 points in 10 games or something like that? The guy had to fight to get on the ice at all and Sullivan did his goddamnest to shatter the kid's confidence and keep him off the ice and keep playing his worthless cast of **** favorites. This team has 100 problems, and Sullivan is 99 of them.

Now, I'm not saying Pool party or anyone else definitely would perform at X level but saying some players have gotten a genuine shot is just not true. Certain players are just never getting a real chance with that guy and others have all the slack forever. Getting to skate on the ice for a shift when Sullivan is forced to by injuries etc is not a chance especially when you KNOW Sullivan is desperately waiting to boot them first chance he gets regardless of performance. Until they get rid of that idiot and get a real coach who is on the same page as the GM, it'll be more of the same. Difference now is what kind of rebuild and how long and successful this team is going to have (because it's in a rebuild now 100 percent). Will it be everyone on the same page, moving forward successfully, or will it be more of the long standing, different parts of the organization pulling in different directions and countering each other.

[Puck-Lurker]

I like the off-season so far. Grzelcyk and Hayes are the only ones I'm kinda iffy about.

Other additions all in the 25-28 age range, coming cheap and/or with extra picks.

DOC-Crosby-Rust
Bunting-Malkin-Rakell


Glass, Eller, Hayes, Acciari, Lizotte, Beauvillier, Puljujärvi, Puustinen, Bemström, Gruden, Poulin.

11 guys to take the last 6 spots. I figure there's going to be some actual competition this time. Now if this team can manage to sit and waive the right guys as needed....

Yager, Ponomarev, Koivunen, Broz waivers exempt so I expect to not see them much all season.

Love we got some picks.

[Antonio]

Poulin isn't making anything. Not sure why people still list his name or talk about him like he has any chance. Zero. Too much baggage, too old and, most importantly, the Dear Leader clearly has no interest in him. He isn't making anything.

Acciari can go. Saw him. Saw nothing. Gruden? Who? Bemstrom? Please. Problem is, those assessments mean nothing since they're based on crazy stuff like actually watching them perform on ice. We all know that means zero to the moron in charge.

Should be far less players actually in competition in reality than on paper because several should already be off the list but we all know certain players are already getting a slot they don't deserve, so the reality will be that there are far less slots in competition.

[Puck-Lurker]

Problem is Sullivan.

I fixed it for you!

[FLPensFan]

Poulin isn't making anything. Not sure why people still list his name or talk about him like he has any chance. Zero. Too much baggage, too old and, most importantly, the Dear Leader clearly has no interest in him. He isn't making anything.

Acciari can go. Saw him. Saw nothing. Gruden? Who? Bemstrom? Please. Problem is, those assessments mean nothing since they're based on crazy stuff like actually watching them perform on ice. We all know that means zero to the moron in charge.

Should be far less players actually in competition in reality than on paper because several should already be off the list but we all know certain players are already getting a slot they don't deserve, so the reality will be that there are far less slots in competition.

I agree on Poulin. Not because of age or baggage, but simply because the Penguins seem to want to use him at wing versus center, and his skating isn't good enough to be an effective winger in a Sullivan system. His age is the doing of the Penguins. He had a good camp a year or two ago, yet still got sent to the AHL because of waivers, then he left for mental health issues.

The problem is, when you have no ready prospects, you need the Gruden and Bemstrom type players in the AHL to be callups.

Will be interesting to see how things shake out. If Sullivan can loosen up a bit and stop with the "dressing the best team to win" BS he tells the media, there's nothing wrong with platooning a couple of guys. There's zero need to see Acciari in the lineup every night simply because he's a vet. I'm interested to see how he does playing mainly RW, where he is more effective...but if he isn't playing well, there's no reason a Puustinen or Puljujarvi shouldn't be able to jump into the lineup in his place.

[Pens4Life]

With Glass, Lizotte, Hayes, Beauvillier deals I see no chance any last year youngster gets a roster spot on opening night.. maybe not even Puustinen, but for sure not Poulin, Ponomarev, Koivunen, Cruz, Puljujarvi.. no spots,unless Eller, Acciari gets dealt soon, but I would hate to lose Eller for Hayes sub!!! Even Acciari if he could play RW ,he could be very decent for us.. but it is what it is! With different coach I would have hopes,but with Sully.. uuuugh

[Cow_Master66]

Love the stockpiling of picks. The fact that acquiring Cody Glass is even a talking point should show where this team is as far as the 2024 season goes. 2025 and 26 won't be much better (likely worse actually) but hopefully this season sees the unloading of some of the key pieces for more prospects/futures.

It will be interesting to see if he's stockpiling picks to replenish the talent in the system, or if he's stockpiling them to add to the current roster at some point this year.

That's my fear, but I'm thinking the plan is to keep the picks. I'm not one to root against the team, and although the window is closed, I would love to see them have a good season and make the playoffs. I just don't want to see them forego the strategy and start trading futures/young assets just for 2024. Would be a fine line and tough sell to the fans to sell off key pieces at the deadline if they are in the playoff race, but hopefully they ignore the noise and make good business decisions.

Having said that, my guess is they have a few teams to jump over to get into the WC as the deadline approaches so I don't see it being a problem.

[FLPensFan]

Didn't post this earlier today because I thought it was fake, but it turned out it was from Instagram not Twitter (the usernames are Instagram).

[BigMcK]

Didn't post this earlier today because I thought it was fake, but it turned out it was from Instagram not Twitter (the usernames are Instagram).

A “scrub” is somebody who does not excel at anything and who nobody expects greatness from. “Scrub” is an insult to someone who doesn’t belong in a team in some way or someone who doesn’t have the required skills or attitude that someone might be looking for.

No Scrubs"

A scrub is a guy that thinks he's fly
And is also known as a buster
Always talkin' about what he wants
And just sits on his broke ass
So, no

I don't want your number, no.
I don't want to give you mine and, no,
I don't want to meet you nowhere, no.
I don't want none of your time and, no,

TLC

My unsolicited opinion is to get off of social, make a mark for yourself in training camp, then produce in the actual season.

Otherwise, you are a scrub.

[Puck-Lurker]

A “scrub” is somebody who does not excel at anything and who nobody expects greatness from. “Scrub” is an insult to someone who doesn’t belong in a team in some way or someone who doesn’t have the required skills or attitude that someone might be looking for.

My unsolicited opinion is to get off of social, make a mark for yourself in training camp, then produce in the actual season.

Otherwise, you are a scrub.

My thoughts:

- There are hockey players with a social media presence; I don't see that as a bad thing, nor as a good thing.
- Agreed, he should put everything on convincing coaches he's got what it takes in camp -- and carry that through the season.
- He has had a miserable last season. But there's a fair chance that was an outlier. No telling by how much.
- He's potentially an okay 3C, right handed with a little size. Can play either wing as needed.
- We got a 3rd and 6th to take on his salary -- I don't give a flying fork we took on 2.5M for a reclamation project.
- Glass is absolutely right about "give me a chance". He's played 23 minutes less than Poulin. That is to say zero. At least wait until after the first game before we get out the pitch forks.
[edit] Oh yeah we gave up Frasca. Undrafted. Spent two years in the organisation. 11 games in Wilkes, 76 in Wheeling. Now *that* is a scrub.

I quite like the Glass deal, the Lizotte and Beauvillier signings. Thought Ned coming back and Larsson coming in was nice. At best lukewarm on Aho and Grzelcyk. Frowny-faced at Hayes.

[dark_forces]

A “scrub” is somebody who does not excel at anything and who nobody expects greatness from. “Scrub” is an insult to someone who doesn’t belong in a team in some way or someone who doesn’t have the required skills or attitude that someone might be looking for.

My unsolicited opinion is to get off of social, make a mark for yourself in training camp, then produce in the actual season.

Otherwise, you are a scrub.

My thoughts:

- There are hockey players with a social media presence; I don't see that as a bad thing, nor as a good thing.
- Agreed, he should put everything on convincing coaches he's got what it takes in camp -- and carry that through the season.
- He has had a miserable last season. But there's a fair chance that was an outlier. No telling by how much.
- He's potentially an okay 3C, right handed with a little size. Can play either wing as needed.
- We got a 3rd and 6th to take on his salary -- I don't give a flying fork we took on 2.5M for a reclamation project.
- Glass is absolutely right about "give me a chance". He's played 23 minutes less than Poulin. That is to say zero. At least wait until after the first game before we get out the pitch forks.
[edit] Oh yeah we gave up Frasca. Undrafted. Spent two years in the organisation. 11 games in Wilkes, 76 in Wheeling. Now *that* is a scrub.

I quite like the Glass deal, the Lizotte and Beauvillier signings. Thought Ned coming back and Larsson coming in was nice. At best lukewarm on Aho and Grzelcyk. Frowny-faced at Hayes.

I watched a recent Predators Locked On podcast and they seem to believe Glass has a ton of untapped potential, but above all really needs a fresh start/clean slate. They say he would probably be better in the short term on the wing and will be highly motivated to prove himself. He seemed really angry with himself at the end of last season and had a fire in his eyes to come back in the fall and make a statement. They also said he's very authentic, is one of the best and most accommodating athletes they've ever dealt with.