Drug Legalization; your view?

[Willie Kool]

Not to mention that once you have a variety you like established, you can perpetuate it forever by taking clones - for free.

[columbia]

It is open source.

[Factorial]

What makes you guys think the seeds/plants that people buy for home growing would be cheap to buy?

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[Grunthy]

Ummm... It says the equipment costs a grand for the setup. You can only have 3 budding plants at a time. So it isn't cheap and all the regulations they have on home growing, most people would opt to just buy. Not all seeds are 5 to 10 dollars. Maybe the basic ones. :wink:

[Eismann]

Stoners are lazy.

Lol. And smelly, too.

like a Carolina pine forest

Dipped in vd-crusted dung resin.

[Willie Kool]

Ummm... It says the equipment costs a grand for the setup. You can only have 3 budding plants at a time. So it isn't cheap and all the regulations they have on home growing, most people would opt to just buy. Not all seeds are 5 to 10 dollars. Maybe the basic ones.

An enclosed, locked space could potentially be interpreted as a fenced in area with a lock on the gate and netting above. Started indoors under T5 fluorescent lights in March, they could be transplanted outside in June to mature. Three flowering plants per adult is way more than enough in this scenario - you would likely be looking at several pounds. Take a few cuttings to overwinter indoors under the T5's, repeat.

Even if it was legally interpreted as only allowing indoor growing, that $1000 system isn't really necessary. You can grow it from start to finish under T5's or LED's, you'll just have a reduced yield.

[Grunthy]

Ummm... It says the equipment costs a grand for the setup. You can only have 3 budding plants at a time. So it isn't cheap and all the regulations they have on home growing, most people would opt to just buy. Not all seeds are 5 to 10 dollars. Maybe the basic ones.

An enclosed, locked space could potentially be interpreted as a fenced in area with a lock on the gate and netting above. Started indoors under T5 fluorescent lights in March, they could be transplanted outside in June to mature. Three flowering plants per adult is way more than enough in this scenario - you would likely be looking at several pounds. Take a few cuttings to overwinter indoors under the T5's, repeat.

Even if it was legally interpreted as only allowing indoor growing, that $1000 system isn't really necessary. You can grow it from start to finish under T5's or LED's, you'll just have a reduced yield.

The casual user will most likely never grow there own weed. So, just like the casual eater of tomatoes, will just buy their stuff. And this law looks to basically mean that you have to grow it indoors, not allowed to grow it in the public at all. Most are interpreting this law as indoors because of federal regulations still considering it being illegal.

[Willie Kool]

Stoners are lazy.

Lol. And smelly, too.

like a Carolina pine forest

Dipped in vd-crusted dung resin.

Pretty sure alcohol use is responsible for spreading much more VD than cannabis use.

[Eismann]

:roll:

Pretty sure alcohol use is responsible for spreading much more VD than cannabis use.

:roll: :roll: settle the stoner arrogance down, homes. You may be right; I'm just bustin'.

[Willie Kool]

The casual user will most likely never grow there own weed.

Sure, the 'casual user' won't, but if all the 'regular users' do it will drive down prices. The cumulative effect of lower prices and fewer sales will severely impact tax revenue. I wasn't arguing that everyone would grow their own, but I think enough will to drive the price down significantly.

[Willie Kool]

settle the stoner arrogance down, homes. You may be right; I'm just bustin'.

It was a weak response. I expect better from you. Something patchouli related would have been nice.

[Grunthy]

The casual user will most likely never grow there own weed.

Sure, the 'casual user' won't, but if all the 'regular users' do it will drive down prices. The cumulative effect of lower prices and fewer sales will severely impact tax revenue. I wasn't arguing that everyone would grow their own, but I think enough will to drive the price down significantly.

Price per ounce is going to go down regardless of whether people grow their own. Its simple supply and demand. Right now supply is low and demand is high. So, the price is high. Once these stores start growing more and more, prices will go down. It is really a simple concept. Just like anything that is new to the market, prices are really high, then come down gradually. Which you will see in colorado by probably the summer.

[shmenguin]

Once it's federally legal I imagine there will some giant money thrown at industrial grow businesses, which will drive price way down and put a lot of the small guys out of business.

[count2infinity]

I'm not sure what the "grow it yourself discussion" is about... some will, some won't. what's the disagreement here?

[Factorial]

Pretty sure alcohol use is responsible for spreading much more VD than cannabis use.

settle the stoner arrogance down, homes. You may be right; I'm just bustin'.

If someone is a "stoner" for advocating pot legalization, what do you call someone who does this?

Picked up Oatmeal Yeti IS, a four of Belhaven Black Scottish Ale and a coupleIf Manchester Star Ales. Let's see if I'm awake past 7 pm.

[Eismann]

Pretty sure alcohol use is responsible for spreading much more VD than cannabis use.

settle the stoner arrogance down, homes. You may be right; I'm just bustin'.

If someone is a "stoner" for advocating pot legalization, what do you call someone who does this?

Picked up Oatmeal Yeti IS, a four of Belhaven Black Scottish Ale and a coupleIf Manchester Star Ales. Let's see if I'm awake past 7 pm.

Good grief. He, and anyone, isn't a stoner for just advocating legalization. A stoner is a stoner and columbia just used the term in a funny made-up quote he attributed to me. Did you look up that far? See page 10, midway down.

Seriously, settle the hell down.

[Factorial]

Pretty sure alcohol use is responsible for spreading much more VD than cannabis use.

settle the stoner arrogance down, homes. You may be right; I'm just bustin'.

If someone is a "stoner" for advocating pot legalization, what do you call someone who does this?

Picked up Oatmeal Yeti IS, a four of Belhaven Black Scottish Ale and a coupleIf Manchester Star Ales. Let's see if I'm awake past 7 pm.

Good grief. He, and anyone, isn't a stoner for just advocating legalization. A stoner is a stoner and columbia just used the term in funny made up quote he attributed to me. Did you look up that far?

Seriously, settle the hell down.

Have you been drinking? Just bustin' back.

[Eismann]

Have you been drinking? Just bustin' back.

Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm nah. You must be smoking to be that wrong that many times in such a small space.


But seriously, I've been meaning to ask: how much do you smoke now?

Spoiler:

[count2infinity]

Well, since we're playing "let's post annoying people that do this sort of thing" game...

[BigMcK]

"How many people can get stoned and still have a great state or a great nation?"

Who would dare say such a thing???

Hint: Moonbeam.

Spoiler:

http://nation.time.com/2014/03/03/calif ... good-idea/

[columbia]

D.C. Council Votes to Decriminalize Small Amounts of Marijuana
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[viva la ben]

I imagine the pressure of being an elected official would be eased by marijuana.

[shmenguin]

"How many people can get stoned and still have a great state or a great nation?"

Who would dare say such a thing???

Hint: Moonbeam.

Spoiler:

http://nation.time.com/2014/03/03/calif ... good-idea/

lame rationalization. people have always been given the opportunity to be useless screw ups, so i don't understand what he wants to prevent.

in more practical terms, if you look into almost every college campus across the country, pretty much every kid is given the opportunity to get wasted prioritize partying over academics. some choose to do so. some do not. and some fall somewhere in the middle. and even more interesting, there are plenty of the ones who choose to get trashed who wind up very successful and industrious.

[yubb]

It's hard to dispute what yubb is saying, and this is also why I think the tax revenue argument is bunk. When the government increase revenue, they will spend most or all of that increased revenue. Period. We don't have a fiscally responsible government.

Little or none of that weed money is going to go to paying the nationaldebt, balancing the budget, etc. This isn't libertarian blindness, it's empirical data. And this is also why I cringe when people are so rushed to "tax the hell out of it". For what purpose?

That's exactly what I was trying to say. Thank you.

[newarenanow]

I'm just happy shad quoted me.