¡EBOLA!

[Crankshaft]

Adding to the fever discussion, I just saw on the televee that for a fever to be considered a symptom of Ebola it must be at least 100.4 F.

So 100.3 you can fly on a commercial flight, 100.4 you cant?

Have to draw the line somewhere.

[count2infinity]

Adding to the fever discussion, I just saw on the televee that for a fever to be considered a symptom of Ebola it must be at least 100.4 F.

So 100.3 you can fly on a commercial flight, 100.4 you cant?

Have to draw the line somewhere.

yep... i have a naturally high body temperature. When I go to donate blood, I am normally turned away because they think it's a fever because their cut off is so low. I think it's 99.1 or something like that.

[thehockeyguru]

Within a few tenths, I'd exercise caution. But nearly a full degree off, they'd have no reason to consider that symptomatic. She wasn't even a full degree above normal at the time she traveled. And if 100.4 is considered symptomatic and she was only 99.5, then that means she wasn't contagious when she flew.

The woman called the CDC, you would think that when she mentioned that she was running a 99.5 temp she would also have mentioned that she was treating the Ebola patient in Dallas, right? I cant imagine that she omitted that! To me even if she was a full degree below, having been in possible contact with the virus is enough to say dont travel on a commerical plane. Her situation is far different than Jane Smith having a 99.5 temp.

[Bioshock]

Adding to the fever discussion, I just saw on the televee that for a fever to be considered a symptom of Ebola it must be at least 100.4 F.

So 100.3 you can fly on a commercial flight, 100.4 you cant?

Have to draw the line somewhere.

yep... i have a naturally high body temperature. When I go to donate blood, I am normally turned away because they think it's a fever because their cut off is so low. I think it's 99.1 or something like that.

Well, I'm hot blooded, check it and see!
I got a fever of a hundred and three!
Come on baby, do you do more than dance?

[meecrofilm]

Within a few tenths, I'd exercise caution. But nearly a full degree off, they'd have no reason to consider that symptomatic. She wasn't even a full degree above normal at the time she traveled. And if 100.4 is considered symptomatic and she was only 99.5, then that means she wasn't contagious when she flew.

The woman called the CDC, you would think that when she mentioned that she was running a 99.5 temp she would also have mentioned that she was treating the Ebola patient in Dallas, right? I cant imagine that she omitted that! To me even if she was a full degree below, having been in possible contact with the virus is enough to say dont travel on a commerical plane. Her situation is far different than Jane Smith having a 99.5 temp.

Pretty sure she mentioned that. It's not like everyone in the country with a fever is calling the CDC before the travel atm. It was just the CDC dropping the ball big time (not a huge surprise).

[stopper40]

Within a few tenths, I'd exercise caution. But nearly a full degree off, they'd have no reason to consider that symptomatic. She wasn't even a full degree above normal at the time she traveled. And if 100.4 is considered symptomatic and she was only 99.5, then that means she wasn't contagious when she flew.

The woman called the CDC, you would think that when she mentioned that she was running a 99.5 temp she would also have mentioned that she was treating the Ebola patient in Dallas, right? I cant imagine that she omitted that! To me even if she was a full degree below, having been in possible contact with the virus is enough to say dont travel on a commerical plane. Her situation is far different than Jane Smith having a 99.5 temp.

One would think she'd be slight paranoid and err on the side of caution. She knows she's been around Ebola and she's running a fever, on of the earliest signs of it. Now granted many other conditions can cause you to run a slight fever, but use a little common sense for crying out loud.

[roland]

"Average human body temperature

Body temperature changes throughout the day. It is the lowest in the early morning between 4 and 6 a.m., and the highest in the early evening between 6 and 8 p.m. Normal temperature is about 37°C or 98.6°F. However, it can be as low as 36.1°C (97°F) in the early morning to a high of 37.2°C (99°F) in the evening and still be considered normal. An infant may have a higher than normal temperature if he/she is overdressed. Also, if it is hot outside or if the room is hot, a baby's temperature may rise."

[tifosi77]

Okay, I just learned this morning that she called the CDC ahead of her flight. (I would think obviously for advice on whether or not it was safe for her to fly, having been treating an Ebola patient for a week.) I agree that's not only irresponsible on the part of the CDC but also reckless on her part regardless what guidance she was given.

[thehockeyguru]

Okay, I just learned this morning that she called the CDC ahead of her flight. (I would think obviously for advice on whether or not it was safe for her to fly, having been treating an Ebola patient for a week.) I agree that's not only irresponsible on the part of the CDC but also reckless on her part regardless what guidance she was given.

I agree. How the CDC can be this inept is beyond me.

[Letang Is The Truth]

Thanks Obama

[Troy Loney]

Good thing they didn't confirm that gun control radical for surgeon general, so we have the expert leadership of __________ to head this potential disaster.

[llipgh2]

It's finally happened.

PensInsideScoop tweeted today a reporter asked Crosby about Ebola. Unfortunately he didn't tweet Crosby's answer.

[shafnutz05]

Good thing they didn't confirm that gun control radical for surgeon general, so we have the expert leadership of __________ to head this potential disaster.

Oh come now. Vivek Murthy was a lousy candidate for surgeon general, something even mainstream media outlets have alluded to. He is a 36 (37 now?) year old physician, and his primary qualifications for the post are that he loves Obama, loves the Affordable Care Act, and was the leader of "Doctors for Obama". That's it.

I think we need a surgeon general to get out in front on this stuff, but I hardly think a 36 year old that isn't far removed from clinicals is really the ideal candidate. I think his views on guns are utterly absurd, but that's almost an afterthought.

[Troy Loney]

Good thing they didn't confirm that gun control radical for surgeon general, so we have the expert leadership of __________ to head this potential disaster.

Oh come now. Vivek Murthy was a lousy candidate for surgeon general, something even mainstream media outlets have alluded to. He is a 36 (37 now?) year old physician, and his primary qualifications for the post are that he loves Obama, loves the Affordable Care Act, and was the leader of "Doctors for Obama". That's it.

I think we need a surgeon general to get out in front on this stuff, but I hardly think a 36 year old that isn't far removed from clinicals is really the ideal candidate. I think his views on guns are utterly absurd, but that's almost an afterthought.

No, you come on. That was blocked because of his stance on gun control and then youth/inexperience cited.

[slappybrown]

Good thing they didn't confirm that gun control radical for surgeon general, so we have the expert leadership of __________ to head this potential disaster.

Oh come now. Vivek Murthy was a lousy candidate for surgeon general, something even mainstream media outlets have alluded to. He is a 36 (37 now?) year old physician, and his primary qualifications for the post are that he loves Obama, loves the Affordable Care Act, and was the leader of "Doctors for Obama". That's it.

I think we need a surgeon general to get out in front on this stuff, but I hardly think a 36 year old that isn't far removed from clinicals is really the ideal candidate. I think his views on guns are utterly absurd, but that's almost an afterthought.

???

Harvard and Yale-educated with an MD and MBA. Practices at one of the largest hospitals in a major metropolitan city. On the faculty at Harvard Med.

He's young, so fair enough if you'd prefer an older candidate (pluses and minuses there as well), but at least a reasonable basis for opposition.

The only reason he's not being confirmed is the gun control issue. That's it.

[shafnutz05]

Regardless of the rationale, he was a lousy pick by Obama. Let's pick a relatively (emphasis) inexperienced doctor with extreme gun control views and has been an Obama acolyte for almost a decade. Congress has blocked candidates unfairly before but this was a poor nomination.

Slappy makes fair (and admittedly impressive) points, but he doesn't strike me as the type of candidate this position needs. Namely, a widely respected and trusted authority figure. I don't think the role lends itself to someone that has been as involved in partisan politics as he has been, IMO

[Troy Loney]

Excuse me if I don't respect your opposition to a surgeon general nomination.

[shafnutz05]

Excuse me if I don't respect your opposition to a surgeon general nomination.

Lol

[columbia]

Now if he had been from Altoona....

[count2infinity]

lol... someone just posted on facebook that Ebola has gone airborne. People are idiots.

[Letang Is The Truth]

it did when it was in the plane

[count2infinity]

The girl that had it as her status and had a lot of discussion to it said about how worried she was that she or her kids will catch ebola when they fly back East. Someone said "then don't fly." She said it's urgent as a family member has cancer and she's going to see them. Someone commented and then I believe either deleted it or the girl deleted it said, "Careful... you have an equal chance of catching the cancer as you do the ebola." I lol'd

[shafnutz05]

Superb...stop buying into the hysteria both in the media and in this thread.

[youtube][/youtube]

[dodint]

Could just not let you kid **** lick everything. It's a flight, do us all a favor and duct tape their mouths shut for everyone's safety.

[tifosi77]

Regardless of the rationale, he was a lousy pick by Obama. Let's pick a relatively (emphasis) inexperienced doctor with extreme gun control views and has been an Obama acolyte for almost a decade. Congress has blocked candidates unfairly before but this was a poor nomination.

Slappy makes fair (and admittedly impressive) points, but he doesn't strike me as the type of candidate this position needs. Namely, a widely respected and trusted authority figure. I don't think the role lends itself to someone that has been as involved in partisan politics as he has been, IMO

I confess to not knowing much about this nominee (the SG office is not one to which I typically pay an ounce of attention). So I looked up who all endorsed him.

Spoiler:

- American Public Health Association
- American Academy of Pediatrics
- American Cancer Society
- American Diabetes Association
- American Heart Association
- Trust for America's Health
- Jeffrey R. Balser, MD, PhD, Vice Chancellor of Health Affairs, Vanderbilt University Medical Center
- Thomas Barker, Foley Hoag LLP, and former Counselor to the Secretary of Health and Human Services
- Cedric Bright, MD, FACS, 112th President of the National Medical Association and Director, Special Programs Office, University of North - Carolina at Chapel Hill School of Medicine
- Jeffrey P. Copland, MD, MPH, Vice President for Global Health, Emory University, and former Director of the Centers for Control and Prevention
- Scott Corlew, MD, MPH, Chief Medical Officer, Saint Thomas Rutherford Hospital
- Andrew Davidoff, MD, Surgeon in Chief, St. Jude Children's Research Hospital
- Victor J. Dzau, MD, Chancellor for Health Affairs and President and CEO, Duke University Medical Center and Health System, and President-elect of the Institute of Medicine
- Trevor Fetter, President and CEO, Tenet Healthcare Corporation
- Jonathan E. Fielding, MD, MPH, MBA, Director and Health Officer, Los Angeles Department of Public Health
- Samuel R. Nussbaum, MD, Executive Vice President and Chief Medical Officer, WellPoint Bhaskar N. Rao, MD, FACS, St. Jude Children's - Research Hospital
- James Roosevelt, Jr., CEO, Tufts Health Plan
- David Satcher, MD, PhD, 16th Surgeon General of the United States
- Eric H. Schultz, President and CEO, Harvard Pilgrim HealthCare
- Nirav R. Shah, MD, MPH, Commissioner of Health, New York State Department of Health
- Kimberlydawn Wisdom, MD, MS, Senior Vice President, Henry Ford Health System
- American Academy of Family Physicians
- American Academy of Pediatrics
- American Association of Physicians of Indian Origin
- American Cancer Society
- American College of Physicians
- American College of Sports Medicine
- American Diabetes Association
- American Heart Association
- American Hospital Association
- American Medical Women's Association
- American Public Health Association
- Associated Industries of Massachusetts
- Brigham and Women's Hospital
- Federation of American Hospitals
- Health & Disability Advocates
- March of Dimes Foundation
- National Center for Disaster Preparedness
- The New England Council
- New Hampshire Public Health Association
- Partners Healthcare

That's a pretty extensive word salad of support for an underqualified nominee.