Let's talk about music

mac5155 · Post by **mac5155** » Fri Dec 04, 2009 1:55 am

just scored tix for shinedown/puddle of mudd/ skillet at Penn state in Feb. YUUUUP!

jaysmiter · Post by **jaysmiter** » Fri Dec 04, 2009 2:11 am

mac5155 wrote:
just scored tix for shinedown/puddle of mudd/ skillet at Penn state in Feb. YUUUUP!

puddle of mudd is still around?

There really is no god.

mac5155 · Post by **mac5155** » Fri Dec 04, 2009 2:18 am

jaysmiter wrote:
mac5155 wrote:
just scored tix for shinedown/puddle of mudd/ skillet at Penn state in Feb. YUUUUP!
puddle of mudd is still around?

There really is no god.

yeah, theyre opening for shinedown. i dont care for them. i really like shinedown though

Post by **shmenguin** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 4:39 pm

so i threw a party last week and assembled my playlist for the night...it was good, indie-but-not-too-indie stuff. the strokes, the killers, the shins, interpol, the stone roses, the national, the arcade fire...stuff like that. it wasn't poorly received by my guests, but it wasn't exactly being praised either. then a friend of my fiance offers to put on a mix that she brought...standard suburban white girl anthem stuff...beyonce, lady gaga, maybe madonna i don't know...and it brought the party to another level. the overall "fun" quotient went from like a 7 to a full-on 10.

so here's my point...i pretty much despise that music, but evidently the people (probably mostly female) who will be coming to my parties in years to come will slurp it up. so what the hell, man? do i just abandon playing cool music that i actually like to make for a better party? do i force feed my guests genuinely GOOD music when all they're really looking for is something familiar that they like dancing to? kind of a bummer either way.

/rant

JS© · Post by **JS©** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 5:54 pm

that sucks, but I hear ya.

I tried that a few years ago. Had a party and kept Sirius Boombox on. Figured it would be fairly safe since they played a lot of remixed songs. Nah, zero reaction. Somebody I didn't know (think it might have been a guest of a friend's guest) recognized the Sirius in-between song bumpers and asked if they could flip around. Being that I was talking to somebody about work, I said I didn't care. I ended up going from listening to Pendulum and Underworld (typical minimal lyric electronic music with catchy beats) to listening to Britney Spears and Beyonce and Rhianna. Ugh. Every once in awhile that person would go on the porch for a smoke and to grab a beer and if they were out there for a long time, like minimum 15 minutes, I'd change it to something different since I knew Boombox wasn't going over. They'd change it back and then go back outside. I did find that everybody was content with Lithium, which is an all 90s channel, but this one was like "iwannadance....wooooooooooooo!" once she had three beers in her. After about 3 or 4 times of the remote battle, I ended up pulling my battery.

I think I might have drifted off point, but what I'm getting at is try to gauge everybody's reaction to the music. If they're enjoying it, keep it on. If they're indifferent to it, keep it on since it's your party. If they look like they're in pain from listening to Interpol or The Arcade Fire, I'd somehow bring up something about a recent show and see if you can please that person or maybe play music from that genre. Being that I'm not a fan of the "white girl anthem" stuff, I'd only use that as a last resort.

I've been trying to find the old "Santa Claus: the man, the myth, the slam dancer" clip that MTV used to run. I never did find it, but I did find the group that sings it and now have it in MP3 form. Woooo.

Pavel Bure · Post by **Pavel Bure** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 6:24 pm

shmenguin wrote:
so i threw a party last week and assembled my playlist for the night...it was good, indie-but-not-too-indie stuff. the strokes, the killers, the shins, interpol, the stone roses, the national, the arcade fire...stuff like that. it wasn't poorly received by my guests, but it wasn't exactly being praised either. then a friend of my fiance offers to put on a mix that she brought...standard suburban white girl anthem stuff...beyonce, lady gaga, maybe madonna i don't know...and it brought the party to another level. the overall "fun" quotient went from like a 7 to a full-on 10.

so here's my point...i pretty much despise that music, but evidently the people (probably mostly female) who will be coming to my parties in years to come will slurp it up. so what the hell, man? do i just abandon playing cool music that i actually like to make for a better party? do i force feed my guests genuinely GOOD music when all they're really looking for is something familiar that they like dancing to? kind of a bummer either way.

/rant

Hey you wanna throw a good party you have to have a mix for that. I remember when I used to jet up Penn State a couple times a month I'd be sure to watch MTV late night when they still played videos and listen to I think 93.7 or 96.1 so I'd know what songs were popular and I could act like I knew what was going on when talking to a girl and her, "LIKE OMG MOST FAVORITE SONG EVAR" would come on.

Some of the best odd ball songs thrown in party mixes have to be 80's cartoon themes. Duck Tales, Ghost Busters, TMNT, etc. It's a nostalgia fest in between the actual songs and sparks conversation.

wallflower · Post by **wallflower** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 7:42 pm

shmenguin wrote:
so i threw a party last week and assembled my playlist for the night...it was good, indie-but-not-too-indie stuff. the strokes, the killers, the shins, interpol, the stone roses, the national, the arcade fire...stuff like that. it wasn't poorly received by my guests, but it wasn't exactly being praised either. then a friend of my fiance offers to put on a mix that she brought...standard suburban white girl anthem stuff...beyonce, lady gaga, maybe madonna i don't know...and it brought the party to another level. the overall "fun" quotient went from like a 7 to a full-on 10.

so here's my point...i pretty much despise that music, but evidently the people (probably mostly female) who will be coming to my parties in years to come will slurp it up. so what the hell, man? do i just abandon playing cool music that i actually like to make for a better party? do i force feed my guests genuinely GOOD music when all they're really looking for is something familiar that they like dancing to? kind of a bummer either way.

/rant

I'm female and I would've much preferred your playlist (aside from Interpol, oh do I loathe Interpol). So please don't lump us all in there.

Pavel Bure · Post by **Pavel Bure** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 8:02 pm

wallflower wrote:
shmenguin wrote:
so i threw a party last week and assembled my playlist for the night...it was good, indie-but-not-too-indie stuff. the strokes, the killers, the shins, interpol, the stone roses, the national, the arcade fire...stuff like that. it wasn't poorly received by my guests, but it wasn't exactly being praised either. then a friend of my fiance offers to put on a mix that she brought...standard suburban white girl anthem stuff...beyonce, lady gaga, maybe madonna i don't know...and it brought the party to another level. the overall "fun" quotient went from like a 7 to a full-on 10.

so here's my point...i pretty much despise that music, but evidently the people (probably mostly female) who will be coming to my parties in years to come will slurp it up. so what the hell, man? do i just abandon playing cool music that i actually like to make for a better party? do i force feed my guests genuinely GOOD music when all they're really looking for is something familiar that they like dancing to? kind of a bummer either way.

/rant
I'm female and I would've much preferred your playlist (aside from Interpol, oh do I loathe Interpol). So please don't lump us all in there.

Uh-oh look out shmenguin.

EricMateya · Post by **EricMateya** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 8:10 pm

Good bands with good songs... If you like the not-so-mainstream stuff:

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Step Brothers Anyone?
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Post by **Ben Klingston** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 8:19 pm

EricMateya wrote:
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This whole album is excellent.

Post by **the wicked child** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 8:33 pm

Sarcastic wrote:
I just loooooooooooove the early Donnas.

I didn't care for their early stuff at all... then again, I didn't care for much of their stuff at all. It's odd... they have 3 songs that I really like... and everything else is just meh to me. *shrugs*

Pipes Hochuli · Post by **Pipes Hochuli** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 8:56 pm

there are better Vamp Weekend songs out there. But, their videos are always good as seen in their new video for "
Cousins"

Pipes Hochuli · Post by **Pipes Hochuli** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 8:57 pm

speaking of videos, this is the best i've seen in a while. even if you don't like the song, mute it and enjoy.
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JS© · Post by **JS©** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 9:00 pm

found the Santa video

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EricMateya · Post by **EricMateya** » Thu Dec 10, 2009 12:18 am

Ben Klingston wrote:
EricMateya wrote:
[youtube][/youtube]
This whole album is excellent.

Hell yea man... fantastic chill band for sure.

Troy Loney · Post by **Troy Loney** » Thu Dec 10, 2009 8:40 am

shmenguin wrote:
so i threw a party last week and assembled my playlist for the night...it was good, indie-but-not-too-indie stuff. the strokes, the killers, the shins, interpol, the stone roses, the national, the arcade fire...stuff like that. it wasn't poorly received by my guests, but it wasn't exactly being praised either. then a friend of my fiance offers to put on a mix that she brought...standard suburban white girl anthem stuff...beyonce, lady gaga, maybe madonna i don't know...and it brought the party to another level. the overall "fun" quotient went from like a 7 to a full-on 10.

so here's my point...i pretty much despise that music, but evidently the people (probably mostly female) who will be coming to my parties in years to come will slurp it up. so what the hell, man? do i just abandon playing cool music that i actually like to make for a better party? do i force feed my guests genuinely GOOD music when all they're really looking for is something familiar that they like dancing to? kind of a bummer either way.

/rant

Well...most people are pretty impartial to music that they've never heard or just don't recognize...while i'm sure this was a solid, well thought out playlist with a ton of stellar tracks...you'd be better of trying to cater to them off the bat....i would have tried to start off with some super catchy cool modern or 80's electro pop...maybe throw in some stuff familiar to them...gain some trust with the crowd that they're going to hear stuff they know well and dig.....i've gone through this before, I'll play some CSS, Santogold, LCD Soundsystem and other stuff like that, if they're still not accepting then i just go to girl talk because i can stand it and top 40 people like it.

Troy Loney · Post by **Troy Loney** » Thu Dec 10, 2009 8:42 am

Pipes Hochuli wrote:
there are better Vamp Weekend songs out there. But, their videos are always good as seen in their new video for "
Cousins"

I haven't like either new song they've released from the upcoming album.....i think its going to be crap

Post by **shmenguin** » Thu Dec 10, 2009 12:25 pm

Troy Loney wrote:
shmenguin wrote:
so i threw a party last week and assembled my playlist for the night...it was good, indie-but-not-too-indie stuff. the strokes, the killers, the shins, interpol, the stone roses, the national, the arcade fire...stuff like that. it wasn't poorly received by my guests, but it wasn't exactly being praised either. then a friend of my fiance offers to put on a mix that she brought...standard suburban white girl anthem stuff...beyonce, lady gaga, maybe madonna i don't know...and it brought the party to another level. the overall "fun" quotient went from like a 7 to a full-on 10.

so here's my point...i pretty much despise that music, but evidently the people (probably mostly female) who will be coming to my parties in years to come will slurp it up. so what the hell, man? do i just abandon playing cool music that i actually like to make for a better party? do i force feed my guests genuinely GOOD music when all they're really looking for is something familiar that they like dancing to? kind of a bummer either way.

/rant
Well...most people are pretty impartial to music that they've never heard or just don't recognize...while i'm sure this was a solid, well thought out playlist with a ton of stellar tracks...you'd be better of trying to cater to them off the bat....i would have tried to start off with some super catchy cool modern or 80's electro pop...maybe throw in some stuff familiar to them...gain some trust with the crowd that they're going to hear stuff they know well and dig.....i've gone through this before, I'll play some CSS, Santogold, LCD Soundsystem and other stuff like that, if they're still not accepting then i just go to girl talk because i can stand it and top 40 people like it.

the sad thing is that, compared to what i really wanted to play, this playlist was already catered to a more mainstream crowd. if i had i my way, it would have been a collection of clinic, wolf parade, sunset rubdown, suede, neutral milk hotel, beta band, gorillaz, clap your hands say yeah, neutral milk hotel, pulp, tap tap, the rapture, the walkmen and massive attack.

jaysmiter · Post by **jaysmiter** » Thu Dec 10, 2009 1:52 pm

I think us music thread regulars should each put together either a best of 2009 or a best of the decade list...or both...

I've been working on a favorites of the decade list, myself.

EricMateya · Post by **EricMateya** » Thu Dec 10, 2009 1:53 pm

Troy Loney wrote:
Pipes Hochuli wrote:
there are better Vamp Weekend songs out there. But, their videos are always good as seen in their new video for "
Cousins"

I haven't like either new song they've released from the upcoming album.....i think its going to be crap

Haven't heard anything from the new album yet. Where can I listen to the new songs?

Troy Loney · Post by **Troy Loney** » Thu Dec 10, 2009 2:01 pm

jaysmiter wrote:
I think us music thread regulars should each put together either a best of 2009 or a best of the decade list...or both...

I've been working on a favorites of the decade list, myself.

This is really preliminary, we've been discussing the best of the year stuff with a couple of friends..my friend came up with this list of albums, i went through the albums and added my favorite tracks from the albums

wilco - wilco
white rabbits - it's frightening
we were promised jetpacks - these four walls - – ITS THUNDER AND ITS LIGHTNING, QUIET LITTLE VOICES, KEEPING WARM
wavves - wavvves - TO THE DREGS, NO HOPE KIDS, SO BORED
thermals - now we can see – YOU DISSOLVE, WHEN WE WERE ALIVE, I LET IT GO
swan lake - enemy mine – SETTLE ON YOUR SKIN, WARLOCK PSYCHOLOGIST
sunset rubdown - dragonslayer - IDIOT HEART, DRAGON’S LAIR, APOLLO…..
the strange boys - the strange boys and girls club – WOE IS YOU AND ME, MLKS, JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING, THIS IS PROBABLY MY FAVORITE ALBUM
real estate - real estate -
pink mountaintops - outside love – AND I THANK YOU, EXECUTION, GAYEST OF SUNBEAMS
phoenix - wolfgang amadeus phoenix - 1901
PETER **** DOHTERY!!! - grace/wastelands
peter bjorn and john - living thing – BLUE PERIOD PICASSO
passion pit - manners – MOTH’S WINGS, SLEEPYHEAD, THE REELING, LET YOUR LOVE GROW TALL
the pains of being pure at heart – THE TENURE ITCH, THIS LOVE IS **** RIGHT
owen - new leaves
modest mouse - no one's first and you're next ep
magnolia electric co - josephine
matt and kim - grand
junior boys - begone dull care
jay reatard - watch me fall – AINT GONNA SAVE ME, HANG THEM ALL
japandroids - post nothing - YOUNG HEARTS SPARK FIRE, SOVEREIGNTY
islands - vapours - TENDER TORTURE
here we go magic - TUNNELVISION
heartless bastards - the mountain - THE MOUNTAIN
handsome furs - face control – I’M CONFUSED, ALL WE WANT BABY IS EVERTHING,
grizzly bear - veckatimest – TWO WEEKS, WHILE WE WAIT FOR THE OTHERS
god help the girl
girls - girls – LUST FOR LIFE, BIG BAD MEAN ****
the fiery furnaces - i'm going away
EMINEM - RELAPSE
the dodos - time to die -
elvis perkins in dearland
dirty projectors - bitta orca
dino jr - farm – I WANT YOU TO KNOW, OVER IT
decemberists - hazards of love
the dead weather - horehound
david bazan - curse your branches – BLESS THIS MESS
dangermouse and sparklehorse - dark night of the soul
dan auerbach - keep it hid – MY LAST MISTAKE
cymbals eat guitars - why there are mountains
cursive - mama, i'm swollen – FROM THE HIPS, CAVEMAN
crystal antlers - tentacles – TIME ERASED, ANDREW
coconut records - davy
casiotone for the painfully alone - vs children – TRAVELING SALESMAN, OPTIMIST VS THE SILENT ALARM
built to spill - there is no enemy – AISLE 13, PAT, TOMORROW
BOB DYLAN - TOGETHER THROUGH LIFE
black lips - 200 million thousand – I’LL BE WITH YOU
bishop allen - grrr... (not their best effort)
ben kweller - canging horses
avett brothers - i and love and you – KICK DRUM HEART
atlas sound - logos - WALKABOUT
antlers - hospice - SYVLVIA
art brut - art brut vs satan – DC COMICS & CHOCOLATE MILKSHAKES
animal collective - merriweather post pavilion – SUMMERTIME CLOTHES, BLUISH, LION IN A COME
andrew bird - noble beast
alec ounsworth - mo beauty

Troy Loney · Post by **Troy Loney** » Thu Dec 10, 2009 2:02 pm

EricMateya wrote:
Troy Loney wrote:
Pipes Hochuli wrote:
there are better Vamp Weekend songs out there. But, their videos are always good as seen in their new video for "
Cousins"

I haven't like either new song they've released from the upcoming album.....i think its going to be crap
Haven't heard anything from the new album yet. Where can I listen to the new songs?

http://pitchfork.com/search/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

you can stream them on pitchfork...

Post by **shafnutz05** » Thu Dec 10, 2009 2:03 pm

I feel like I am musically challenged...I have heard of like 2 of those albums, and maybe 4 of the performers

Troy Loney · Post by **Troy Loney** » Thu Dec 10, 2009 2:07 pm

shafnutz05 wrote:
I feel like I am musically challenged...I have heard of like 2 of those albums, and maybe 4 of the performers

It's more or less all the albums that got internet hype (pitchfork hype).....there is a lot of group think involved, but i have found that the internet hype is usually pretty reliable.

tfrizz · Post by **tfrizz** » Thu Dec 10, 2009 2:11 pm

Troy Loney wrote:
shafnutz05 wrote:
I feel like I am musically challenged...I have heard of like 2 of those albums, and maybe 4 of the performers

It's more or less all the albums that got internet hype (pitchfork hype).....there is a lot of group think involved, but i have found that the internet hype is usually pretty reliable.

I've been lucky enough to have a couple friends rescue me from the pop trash they play on every radio station in North America over the past 18 months.

Troy... that list is pretty good. Kind of surprised Oracular Spectacular isn't on the it though... all the hype it got - and it is a pretty good album - will have it on most "Best of the Decade" lists I'm sure.

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