Where my fellow cooks at???

Post by **tifosi77** » Mon Dec 22, 2014 1:21 pm

canaan wrote:
count2infinity wrote:
http://www.salon.com/2014/08/08/how_one ... wers_hell/
What a pretentious pile of garbage--the article not the chef.

I found it to be pitch-perfect.

There are not enough pejoratives in the English language to sufficiently asperse Guy Fieri.

redwill · Post by **redwill** » Mon Dec 22, 2014 1:28 pm

tifosi77 wrote:
LIVE was the tipping point in the democratization of cooking on TV, for better or worse.

Key point.

Whatever floats someone's boat, I guess.

Post by **shmenguin** » Mon Dec 22, 2014 1:36 pm

i've never seen any of guy's shows other than DD&D. i don't see how that show, in particular, could be accused of being the downfall to the network, artistically or otherwise. he's a good host, and it's a good vehicle. whether or not his credentials are up to snuff or people on that show make fattening food - i don't think that really matters a whole lot, does it? it's still genuine cooking by relatable people. isn't that the point of the network?

Post by **tifosi77** » Mon Dec 22, 2014 1:43 pm

shmenguin wrote:
it's still genuine cooking by relatable people. isn't that the point of the network?

It is now, yes. Except he sucks out loud.

Post by **shmenguin** » Mon Dec 22, 2014 2:08 pm

the network seems to veering into reality television, which is a far bigger atrocity than anything guy fieri's ever done.

Post by **tifosi77** » Mon Dec 22, 2014 2:11 pm

Last night's dinner

Venison And Things With Cherry Gel

Post by **canaan** » Mon Dec 22, 2014 2:21 pm

Crap like food truck race and cut throat kitchen are a bigger affront to the culinary world than anything fieri is doing. the dude highlights local eateries that anybody can go and frequent. this isn't the french laundry. if anything, shows like that should be lauded for their efforts. getting people to get out of their dumpy fast food ruts and explore some genuinely decent food is a plus. getting people to find enjoyment in trying something new, supporting something fresh--why the angst in that? seems terribly misplaced.

Post by **shmenguin** » Mon Dec 22, 2014 2:57 pm

canaan wrote:
Crap like food truck race and cut throat kitchen are a bigger affront to the culinary world than anything fieri is doing. the dude highlights local eateries that anybody can go and frequent. this isn't the french laundry. if anything, shows like that should be lauded for their efforts. getting people to get out of their dumpy fast food ruts and explore some genuinely decent food is a plus. getting people to find enjoyment in trying something new, supporting something fresh--why the angst in that? seems terribly misplaced.

yup. but yellow hair and bowling shirts n'at.

mac5155 · Post by **mac5155** » Mon Dec 22, 2014 3:31 pm

tifosi77 wrote:
Last night's dinner

Venison And Things With Cherry Gel

Sous vide on the venison?

Post by **tifosi77** » Mon Dec 22, 2014 4:46 pm

Of course. 130°F

blackjack68 · Post by **blackjack68** » Mon Dec 22, 2014 4:47 pm

Someone needs a sous vide intervention...

viva la ben · Post by **viva la ben** » Mon Dec 22, 2014 5:04 pm

Supercharged sous vide venison distressed with mind-blowing mysterious herbs and cherry pie glaze straight from a can. Served with lawnmower cuttings from Kid Rock's childhood trailer park.

Post by **tifosi77** » Mon Dec 22, 2014 5:10 pm

canaan wrote:
Crap like food truck race and cut throat kitchen are a bigger affront to the culinary world than anything fieri is doing. the dude highlights local eateries that anybody can go and frequent. this isn't the french laundry. if anything, shows like that should be lauded for their efforts. getting people to get out of their dumpy fast food ruts and explore some genuinely decent food is a plus. getting people to find enjoyment in trying something new, supporting something fresh--why the angst in that? seems terribly misplaced.

While I do not like the reality shows, I at least have a ton of respect for Alton Brown, and - for all his shininess - Tyler Florence is actually pretty good at cooking, too.

Guy Fieri is an untalented, homophobic, anti-Semite that I imagine smells like old people feet.

mac5155 · Post by **mac5155** » Tue Dec 23, 2014 9:44 am

viva la ben wrote:
Supercharged sous vide venison distressed with mind-blowing mysterious herbs and cherry pie glaze straight from a can. Served with lawnmower cuttings from Kid Rock's childhood trailer park.

count2infinity · Post by **count2infinity** » Tue Dec 23, 2014 10:19 am

tifosi77 wrote:
canaan wrote:
Crap like food truck race and cut throat kitchen are a bigger affront to the culinary world than anything fieri is doing. the dude highlights local eateries that anybody can go and frequent. this isn't the french laundry. if anything, shows like that should be lauded for their efforts. getting people to get out of their dumpy fast food ruts and explore some genuinely decent food is a plus. getting people to find enjoyment in trying something new, supporting something fresh--why the angst in that? seems terribly misplaced.
While I do not like the reality shows, I at least have a ton of respect for Alton Brown, and - for all his shininess - Tyler Florence is actually pretty good at cooking, too.

Guy Fieri is an untalented, homophobic, anti-Semite that I imagine smells like old people feet.

For as much credit I give Alton Brown for good eats which is the best show to ever air on food network, he's fallen into the reality tv/competition fold with everyone else at food network and its a damn shame. My current favorite food shows aren't even on food network (bizarre foods and anything Anthony bourdaine)

Those are some wrong words about guy. Do you have articles to back those claims?

Post by **shmenguin** » Tue Dec 23, 2014 10:24 am

he's talented at being a TV personality. considering the shlubs that usually come out of "the next food network star", it's clear that it's not easy to do what he does. which isn't cooking, so there's that.

Post by **tifosi77** » Tue Dec 23, 2014 10:38 am

Diners, Drive-ins, and Disasters

That article opens up a pretty deep rabbit hole. It was openly acknowledged by the crew that if they were filming with anyone who was gay, Fieri had to know about it up front so he could mentally prepare for it because 'those people' freak him out. (Which is enlightened, given that his sister was a lesbetarian before she died) His rep in that particular area was so bad that they ended up having to shoot an entire DDD episode in San Francisco that - what a coinkeydink - featured almost all gay bars and restaurants.

Post by **canaan** » Tue Dec 23, 2014 10:51 am

tifosi77 wrote:
Diners, Drive-ins, and Disasters

That article opens up a pretty deep rabbit hole. It was openly acknowledged by the crew that if they were filming with anyone who was gay, Fieri had to know about it up front so he could mentally prepare for it because 'those people' freak him out. (Which is enlightened, given that his sister was a lesbetarian before she died) His rep in that particular area was so bad that they ended up having to shoot an entire DDD episode in San Francisco that - what a coinkeydink - featured almost all gay bars and restaurants.

that article stinks.

"Here's what we're doing, we're going to make this and that." And he said that as part of the briefing I needed to let Guy know he was homosexual before entering the restaurant.

That's what I did.

He heard all of that information, he said okay, he came into the restaurant, and we shot the segment, it turned out great, the chef pulled off a miracle of all miracles and cooked the two dishes.

translation:

hes anti-gay and will blow up at gays. he didnt blow up at gays.

between this junk at the butthurt former producer, these things stink of trying to drag this dude over the coals, for views he may or may not have.

Troy Loney · Post by **Troy Loney** » Tue Dec 23, 2014 10:53 am

Fieri is such a turd on the surface that any complex, internal issues aren't worth examining.

Post by **canaan** » Tue Dec 23, 2014 10:56 am

Troy Loney wrote:
Fieri is such a turd on the surface that any complex, internal issues aren't worth examining.

thanks for your input

Troy Loney · Post by **Troy Loney** » Tue Dec 23, 2014 11:00 am

canaan wrote:
Troy Loney wrote:
Fieri is such a turd on the surface that any complex, internal issues aren't worth examining.
thanks for your input

no problem, figured i'd give you some support on this one.

Dickie Dunn · Post by **Dickie Dunn** » Tue Dec 23, 2014 11:08 am

tifosi77 wrote:
(Which is enlightened, given that his sister was a lesbetarian before she died)

Is that like a lesbian librarian?

Post by **shmenguin** » Tue Dec 23, 2014 11:12 am

Dickie Dunn wrote:
tifosi77 wrote:
(Which is enlightened, given that his sister was a lesbetarian before she died)
Is that like a lesbian librarian?

i think it's a lesbian who's fed up with big government

Post by **tifosi77** » Tue Dec 23, 2014 12:00 pm

He should stick to shilling mufflers.

Post by **tifosi77** » Tue Dec 23, 2014 12:04 pm

There used to be a 'Flavortown dish generator' on Eater that was monstrously funny.

"Punk Rock Reggie's triple X pork honk with Tuscan-style beef taffy"

"Adjunct Professor Andrew's salty chicken shooters with thrice-fried creamed walnuts"

"Dave the Donk-Man's fancy French-style clam paws with sweet-and-sour Suzycakes"

I wouldn't be surprised if every single one of those was a real menu item.

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