Non-Pirates Baseball Thread

[Rocco]

I'm rooting for the Royals just because, but Nutting's towel boys will be convinced that the Bucs are on the right path, even though the Royals didn't lower their payroll this year and outspent the Pirates by about ~ $15M.

The Pirates didn't lower their payroll either. The Royals let their best free agent (Santana) walk after 2013 rather than pay him. Instead they used that money to bring in Vargas and Infante and fill holes on their roster.

[CBear3]

And there were people who really pushed for Carlos Beltran to be in a Royals uniform this year (yikes). It's not just spending money, it's spending the right money.

[MalkinIsMyHomeboy]

imagine how good the big payroll teams would be if they had the small market analytics.

of course I say that and my Red Sox were absolutely terrible this year despite the fourth highest payroll, but hey, we won last year.


also I had no idea the Phillies still had such a high payroll. #3 in spending yet laughably bad. get a new GM.

[Rocco]

Hard to believe the Giants have gotten this far with that starting rotation. Neither Peavy nor Hudson could get through the 2nd inning in these last two games.

[Dickie Dunn]

Is it crazy to say that I would have started Bumgarner? Yea he might only be able to give you 4 innings max, but you're all but guaranteed to get through those 4 innings without giving up a run.

[MalkinIsMyHomeboy]

I'd save Buttcollecter for late in the game

[Orlando Penguin]

Is it crazy to say that I would have started Bumgarner? Yea he might only be able to give you 4 innings max, but you're all but guaranteed to get through those 4 innings without giving up a run.

Nope, not crazy at all. I was thinking the same thing this afternoon. Sandy Koufax started Game 7 in '65 on 2 days rest and pitched a freakin 3-hit shutout. Bochy was quoted prior to the game saying that they had to 'take care' of Bumgarner, that he's only 25 and still has a career ahead of him. This is Game 7. You do what you have to do to win a championship. You may never be back here again. Don't do what the Nats did a couple of years ago when they shut down Strasburg and then desperately needed him in the playoffs.

[JS©]

I'd save Buttcollecter for late in the game

Giroux?

[Rocco]

Is it crazy to say that I would have started Bumgarner? Yea he might only be able to give you 4 innings max, but you're all but guaranteed to get through those 4 innings without giving up a run.

Yeah, it's crazy. Really the Giants should have started him in Game 4 on short rest so they'd have him to start Game 7.

[CBear3]

Unless they win. Winning is the best penance.

[Mr. Colby]

When the rest of your pitchers are warm garbage bumgarner should pitch til his arm falls off

[columbia]

I'm sure Ishakawa will enjoy giving the umadbro.jpg to the Pirates.

[pressure=9Pa]

MadBum is all world. He can get through the eighth if he keeps averaging 4.5 pitches per out.

[Fast B]

When the rest of your pitchers are warm garbage bumgarner should pitch til his arm falls off

It's crazy, the Giants bullpen has been miles better than the rotation (except maybe for Strickland, who is a possibly-crazy HR machine).

[FreeCandy44]

Epic and classic game!

[pressure=9Pa]

also I had no idea the Phillies still had such a high payroll. #3 in spending yet laughably bad. get a new GM.

This was a calculated risk a few years ago. They offered their core of the day more years at high dollars than they would have received elsewhere. They mortgaged 2012-15 to try to win in 2008-10. Not a terrible strategy, but it doesn't do much now.

[columbia]

also I had no idea the Phillies still had such a high payroll. #3 in spending yet laughably bad. get a new GM.

This was a calculated risk a few years ago. They offered their core of the day more years at high dollars than they would have received elsewhere. They mortgaged 2012-15 to try to win in 2008-10. Not a terrible strategy, but it doesn't do much now.

The Bucs are going for the reverse strategy. They'll really open the wallet in 2023-2026.

[Rocco]

also I had no idea the Phillies still had such a high payroll. #3 in spending yet laughably bad. get a new GM.

This was a calculated risk a few years ago. They offered their core of the day more years at high dollars than they would have received elsewhere. They mortgaged 2012-15 to try to win in 2008-10. Not a terrible strategy, but it doesn't do much now.

The problem is instead of blowing it up and starting over they've deluded themselves into thinking they can still win with their current core.

[pressure=9Pa]

Make that 4.0 pitches per out.

[Orlando Penguin]

He'd better not come out of this game unless his arm is hanging by a thread. He let the leadoff guy get him and that's been it.

[MalkinIsMyHomeboy]

Giants are a machine. Just so well disciplined and battle hardened. Can't see how the Royals pull this out, especially with Bumguy on the mound.

[Chefpatrick871]

Giants are a machine. Just so well disciplined and battle hardened. Can't see how the Royals pull this out, especially with Bumguy on the mound.

Destiny. They win it bottom 9.

[MalkinIsMyHomeboy]

Even if the Giants end up losing, Bumgarner deserves the MVP

[CBear3]

What the hell was Aoki doing anywhere near a bat there?

[Idoit40fans]

Bumgarner is the best pitcher in the game.