2014-2015 Pirates Offseason Thread

[Factorial]

I thought it was KrankShaft?

[LeopardLetang]

Apparently it's pronounced "Gong" but will likely be anglicized as Kong

[Avyran]

It's pronounced like Kahng (like the ah in Kahn - Kaaaaahhhhnnnnnn - or awe, awful, etc). The Korean's 강 = ㄱ is k (though a little softer, if that makes sense), ㅏ is the a sound (ah), ㅇ is the ng sound (like in -ing... biking, driving, etc). So yeah, pretty close to Gong but it's definitely an A.

[Factorial]

Got it.

[columbia]

Corinthian Leather

[FreeCandy44]

Is it wrong I hope his walk up music is Gangnam Style?

[ulf]

I think it would have been easier if you just said it rhymes with gong lol

[Avyran]

I think it would have been easier if you just said it rhymes with gong lol

Yeah, well.. then I wouldn't be able to write Kaaahhhnnn like Khan.

[Rocco]

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They’re projected to spend $7.8 M on the four players mentioned above, plus whatever Kang will make this year. That’s easily the most they’ve spent on their bench in recent years, with all five players expected to receive seven figures, and four of them expected to receive $2 M or more.

[Rocco]

The Kang signing is official.

[FreeCandy44]

Cool?

[Rocco]

He can't be worse than Michael Martinez. Works for me.

Stewart has settled before arbitration- 1.225M.

[Sam's Drunk Dog]

[Rocco]

Kang deal ended up being around $11M total for 4 years with a team option. Solid work.

Pirates have been signing a bunch of their arbitration-eligible guys. Harrison signed for 2.8M.

[Troy Loney]

So I'm showing Alvarez, Walker & Worley all headed for hearing.

[Troy Loney]

Payroll going to settle somewhere close to $95M (including Tabata's $4M).

They could potentially scale it back in 2016 by moving one of Walker/Alvarez, Melancon (will 3rd year ARB) and Burnett's 8.5M off the books. Those moves would probably make up for arbitration increases for Watson and Harrison.

The 2016 roster should have Kingham and Taillon and could have both Bell and Hanson. Burnett's 8.5 replaced in house and if both take steps forward in 2015, Morton or Worley would be expendable. Bell or Hanson could allow for Walker or Alvarez to be replaced by a league minimum salary.

I don't think they face any real payroll issues, so Hanson or Bell would need to be demanding a spot on the MLB team for the Pirates to push Alvarez or Walker out.

I think the team would just be better with Kingham and Taillon pushing Worley and Morton out by 2016. So if I'm NH and want to shed a little bit of money, I'm looking to trade those two after 2015.

[ulf]

Nuttings cheap

[Crankshaft]

Nuttings cheap

Let's not pretend he's always been this aggressive with his money.

[Rocco]

Payroll going to settle somewhere close to $95M (including Tabata's $4M).

They could potentially scale it back in 2016 by moving one of Walker/Alvarez, Melancon (will 3rd year ARB) and Burnett's 8.5M off the books. Those moves would probably make up for arbitration increases for Watson and Harrison.

The 2016 roster should have Kingham and Taillon and could have both Bell and Hanson. Burnett's 8.5 replaced in house and if both take steps forward in 2015, Morton or Worley would be expendable. Bell or Hanson could allow for Walker or Alvarez to be replaced by a league minimum salary.

I don't think they face any real payroll issues, so Hanson or Bell would need to be demanding a spot on the MLB team for the Pirates to push Alvarez or Walker out.

I think the team would just be better with Kingham and Taillon pushing Worley and Morton out by 2016. So if I'm NH and want to shed a little bit of money, I'm looking to trade those two after 2015.

Burnett's only signed for one year, so his contract will be off the books for 2016.

[KennyTheKangaroo]

Are fans going to cry about the nuttings being cheap if they don't offer aj Burnett ten million to stay out of retirement

[columbia]

You'll possibly want him to retire by July.

[FreeCandy44]

Nuttings cheap

Let's not pretend he's always been this aggressive with his money.

Word...

[Mr. Colby]

He should have been like the Phillies and dumped a bunch of money into a sinking ship

[Mr. Colby]

So how many moves wouldn't have happened if they gave russ his 16 million? Probably Kang, Bastardo, Hart at least

[Mr. Colby]

The best part of all of this is the pirates put together a really strong 25 man lineup without dipping into the top 10 prospects really at all the last 4 or 5 years.

The only guys of note traded were Holt, herrera, vic black, blake taylor, grossman... none of those guys are anything special except maybe herrera