The Pro Wrestling Thread

[Spangler]

Watching Bret's match was very depressing.

That being said, Bret's execution of the sharpshooter is a thing of beauty. A lot of guys just can't get it right.

[DudeMan2766]

http://www.cagesideseats.com/2010/5/21/ ... by-wwe-for

Carlito fired for failing drug test

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http://www.cagesideseats.com/2010/5/21/ ... by-wwe-for

Carlito fired for failing drug test

That's not cool.



ps. Smackdown was horrible.

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Over the Limit is currently happening. I don't have the patience to look for feeds anymore, so I'm just checking out the results as they come in.

Kofi defeated Drew McIntyre to win the Intercontinental Championship

R-Truth over Ted DiBiase

Rey Mysterio beat Punk, shaved Punk's head.

The Hart Dynasty retained against JeriMiz

Orton/Edge ended in a double count out, after Orton injured his arm while pounding the mat gearing up for an RKO. Seriously. Reports are they went for a quick finish after Orton actually injured himself. The ref even threw up the X.

Big Show beat Swagger via disqualification after Swagger hit Show with the belt 6 minutes into the match. What a waste.

Eve retained the Diva Championship. Who cares.

[Cookestache]

http://deadspin.com/5545689/barely-hang ... scott-hall

Razor Ramon's ladder match with Shawn Michaels seems so very far away...he looks like a corpse.

[Kicksave]

Kofi defeated Drew McIntyre to win the Intercontinental Championship

I like this.

R-Truth over Ted DiBiase

Don't really care about the outcome, I just hope that they with DiBiase continuing with the 'million dollar man' shtick.

Rey Mysterio beat Punk, shaved Punk's head.

This was obvious.

The Hart Dynasty retained against JeriMiz

I like the Jericho/Miz combo but not as a tag team. Besides, I'd like to see Miz going after some singles gold.

Orton/Edge ended in a double count out, after Orton injured his arm while pounding the mat gearing up for an RKO. Seriously. Reports are they went for a quick finish after Orton actually injured himself. The ref even threw up the X.

Meh.

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I came across a feed pretty easily, actually. The I Quit match is on. This is where the PG product hurts the storytelling. Who wants to see an I Quit match with no blood?

*edit*
Cena bleeds and the doctor rushes in. What a joke.


Batista quits as Cena is about to FU him from the top of a car onto the stage. That was the lamest I Quit match I've ever seen. The match was stopped due to blood, they brawled in the crowd and Batista took a fall from a 6-foot high wall onto 4 or 5 "security" guards who were clearly FCW wrestlers, Batista tried to run Cena over with a car that was part of the decorations on stage (thankfully somebody left the keys in it), and finally Batista quit to try to get out of the FU from the hood of the car. Of course, Cena did it anyway and FU'd him through the stage.

[skullman80]

That wasn't an awful PPV, not great, but not awful.

I'll agree though this whole "PG" WWE stuff is getting silly. You don't need blood in every match, but when used effectively it works very well. Stopping both the Punk/Rey and Cena/Batista match because of blood killed both matches momentum and flow. Blood can be used very effectively in a blowoff style match etc.

Again not saying you need it all the time, but this whole stop the match cause someone is cut, especially on a PPV is silly.

[Malkamaniac]

That wasn't an awful PPV, not great, but not awful.

I'll agree though this whole "PG" WWE stuff is getting silly. You don't need blood in every match, but when used effectively it works very well. Stopping both the Punk/Rey and Cena/Batista match because of blood killed both matches momentum and flow. Blood can be used very effectively in a blowoff style match etc.

Again not saying you need it all the time, but this whole stop the match cause someone is cut, especially on a PPV is silly.

They stop matches because of blood now? Are you serious?

[skullman80]

That wasn't an awful PPV, not great, but not awful.

I'll agree though this whole "PG" WWE stuff is getting silly. You don't need blood in every match, but when used effectively it works very well. Stopping both the Punk/Rey and Cena/Batista match because of blood killed both matches momentum and flow. Blood can be used very effectively in a blowoff style match etc.

Again not saying you need it all the time, but this whole stop the match cause someone is cut, especially on a PPV is silly.

They stop matches because of blood now? Are you serious?

WWE does now yes. It's really really stupid and annoying.

[Malkamaniac]

That wasn't an awful PPV, not great, but not awful.

I'll agree though this whole "PG" WWE stuff is getting silly. You don't need blood in every match, but when used effectively it works very well. Stopping both the Punk/Rey and Cena/Batista match because of blood killed both matches momentum and flow. Blood can be used very effectively in a blowoff style match etc.

Again not saying you need it all the time, but this whole stop the match cause someone is cut, especially on a PPV is silly.

They stop matches because of blood now? Are you serious?

WWE does now yes. It's really really stupid and annoying.

I'm so glad I don't watch anymore. I grew up going to Rostraver watching ECW. No way can I handle what they call ECW now if this is the case. Blood is used to build on the effect of how intense a match is. Stopping everything to give the effect that you care when most likely they cut themselves to begin with is just stupid.

[DudeMan2766]

That wasn't an awful PPV, not great, but not awful.

I'll agree though this whole "PG" WWE stuff is getting silly. You don't need blood in every match, but when used effectively it works very well. Stopping both the Punk/Rey and Cena/Batista match because of blood killed both matches momentum and flow. Blood can be used very effectively in a blowoff style match etc.

Again not saying you need it all the time, but this whole stop the match cause someone is cut, especially on a PPV is silly.

They stop matches because of blood now? Are you serious?

This is what i need to know...(although I see its been answered) I just started getting back into wrestling in the past 1-2 years, and even that is only flipping back to RAW every Monday and tuning into Smackdown on the Fridays I stay home because I have an early tee time. Is it a planned stoppage, like the fake blood then match stop is in the script? Or is it if someone happens to bleed, the plan is thrown out the window and the match is done? I assume its the former, but that is just sad.

[skullman80]

I'm so glad I don't watch anymore. I grew up going to Rostraver watching ECW. No way can I handle what they call ECW now if this is the case. Blood is used to build on the effect of how intense a match is. Stopping everything to give the effect that you care when most likely they cut themselves to begin with is just stupid.

the bastardized WWE version of ECW isn't around anymore, they completely phased it out, which honestly was good, because WWE's version of ECW was awful.

WWE is all "pg" now though.. so blood = bad. It's just annoying. Like I said not needed every match, but for a blowoff to a feud... it has it's place. I mean how can you have a "I Quit" match with no blood. To be fair though I think both Punk and Cena who bled tonight got cut open hard way...it just killed the flow of the match though to have the medic running down.

[skullman80]

That wasn't an awful PPV, not great, but not awful.

I'll agree though this whole "PG" WWE stuff is getting silly. You don't need blood in every match, but when used effectively it works very well. Stopping both the Punk/Rey and Cena/Batista match because of blood killed both matches momentum and flow. Blood can be used very effectively in a blowoff style match etc.

Again not saying you need it all the time, but this whole stop the match cause someone is cut, especially on a PPV is silly.

They stop matches because of blood now? Are you serious?

This is what i need to know...(although I see its been answered) I just started getting back into wrestling in the past 1-2 years, and even that is only flipping back to RAW every Monday and tuning into Smackdown on the Fridays I stay home because I have an early tee time. Is it a planned stoppage, like the fake blood then match stop is in the script? Or is it if someone happens to bleed, the plan is thrown out the window and the match is done? I assume its the former, but that is just sad.

The wrestlers don't "Blade" anymore.. I.E. .. cut themselves like they used too. The only way you see blood in a WWE match is if someone gets busted open hard way. If that happens a doctor comes down and the match stops until the blood stops etc, and then the match restarts.

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I'm all for WWE not using excessive blading or allowing chair shots to the head anymore. I was into that back in the ECW days but now that's just not what I'm looking for.

I do agree that blood can be used to enhance a story, a match, or a character. I think I said in this thread before that Stone Cold screaming in pain in the sharpshooter would not have been as powerful without the blood. In that instance, the blood really made that character. That said, I can't stand turning on TNA and every week seeing Flair bleeding profusely. Blood is only effective when used very sparingly. When it's used all the time, it loses its impact.

Stopping the match when a wrestler gets cut is ridiculous. I understand if you don't want wrestlers blading, but sometimes getting cut and bleeding is the nature of the business.

[Spangler]

How do the fans react when they stop the match because of blood? Do they boo loudly, or don't they care?

If they don't boo, then shame on them.

[steve784]

I read Orton broke his arm. So he seriously did it by pounding on the mat pre-RKO?

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I read Orton broke his arm. So he seriously did it by pounding on the mat pre-RKO?

According to PWInsider (who are usually spot on) Orton separated his shoulder performing a neck snap. Pounding the mat furthered the injury.

A neck snap is such a simple move, it's amazing that an injury could happen on it. But I guess that's why they tell you not to try it at home.

[SolidSnake]

I read Orton broke his arm. So he seriously did it by pounding on the mat pre-RKO?

According to PWInsider (who are usually spot on) Orton separated his shoulder performing a neck snap. Pounding the mat furthered the injury.

A neck snap is such a simple move, it's amazing that an injury could happen on it. But I guess that's why they tell you not to try it at home.

Orton is made of glass

[shafnutz05]

lol about the Ric Flair bleeding. Every single time he is in a match it looks like he got shot in the head

[Malkamaniac]

Yea I'm a fan of blood, but not to the excessive amount.

I Quit matches are supposed to be "violent" to no end to finish a feud. There's no need to stop a match because someone starts bleeding. Especially on PPV.

[SolidSnake]

I always thought I quit matches were where you had to make your opponent tap out.....

[Malkamaniac]

I always thought I quit matches were where you had to make your opponent tap out.....

Tap out or someone verbally saying I quit

The Rock Vs. Mankind I quit match was awesome.

[SolidSnake]

I may have posted this in here before but Taz did some of the best promos ever. A shame he had to retire

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[JS©]

Why don't I remember this gimmick?

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