Of course Id lie in Warz. I do all the time when I am red and even when green if the circujmstances call for it.
Look, this is going nowhere. I dont want to be voted off, and I want to keep playing because I think this is going to be an awesome game with new twists.
But at this point, I genuinely think that the maximum benefit to the village is to vote me off so you can (1) move on and (2) potentially piece together something from the history on my votes. This isnt me taking my ball and going home and demanding to voted off -- I honestly think this is what is the best play for the blue/greens at this point.
So far, everyone seems to actually be the character they chose. Slappy claimed green as the Bat-man, as did crank as Fox. I am actually inclined to believe both. Rylan was Ra's Al Ghul, and was blue, as am I as Scarecrow, but those two 'villians' pale in comparison to the Joker, Bane and Two Face. I wouldn't be at all surprised if columbia (Two Face) and Kaizer (Bane) are both bad.
I thought the same thing, WK, but wouldn't that be too easy? Taking it a step further, canaan picked Wayne and is the seer, and crankshaft picked Fox and is the doctor (by their claims anyway). I just have a hard time believing the game would play out like that.
So far, everyone seems to actually be the character they chose. Slappy claimed green as the Bat-man, as did crank as Fox. I am actually inclined to believe both. Rylan was Ra's Al Ghul, and was blue, as am I as Scarecrow, but those two 'villians' pale in comparison to the Joker, Bane and Two Face. I wouldn't be at all surprised if columbia (Two Face) and Kaizer (Bane) are both bad.
So far, everyone seems to actually be the character they chose. Slappy claimed green as the Bat-man, as did crank as Fox. I am actually inclined to believe both. Rylan was Ra's Al Ghul, and was blue, as am I as Scarecrow, but those two 'villians' pale in comparison to the Joker, Bane and Two Face. I wouldn't be at all surprised if columbia (Two Face) and Kaizer (Bane) are both bad.
So far, everyone seems to actually be the character they chose. Slappy claimed green as the Bat-man, as did crank as Fox. I am actually inclined to believe both. Rylan was Ra's Al Ghul, and was blue, as am I as Scarecrow, but those two 'villians' pale in comparison to the Joker, Bane and Two Face. I wouldn't be at all surprised if columbia (Two Face) and Kaizer (Bane) are both bad.
Kill Kaizer
rylan wasn't ras al ghoul
He was in the list and the write up.
yeah, i tarded that. i read the list and then thought "huh, hes picked al ghoul and wasnt bad"
Could the reds possibly have a roleblock instead of a kill and used it to block canaan? That way it sets up slappy to not be trusted? I wouldn't mind moving to Kaizer at this point because he'd be my next target if slappy turns up green.
My question is how can a Green role blocker be effective if they cant communicate with the Seer? They are blindly blocking a player each night, there is no justification to do so other than a hunch.
does not last night confirm cranky's claim? At the same time, all it does is disprove slappy's theory about cranky. Doesn't really say anything about slappy's own claim.
I must say, if slappy is lying it is one of the most thorough ones I've seen as far as sticking to the same consistent story. I'm not inclined to string him up at this point.
My question is how can a Green role blocker be effective if they cant communicate with the Seer? They are blindly blocking a player each night, there is no justification to do so other than a hunch.
Pretty much. Its why I came out when I did. In a 15 person game, I figured me (role blocker)/Angle/Seer and maybe 3 or 4 reds (didn't think there was a vig till MR, but I am guess he's just bad rather than indy now). When canaan came out as the seer, and I saw no deaths resulting from blocking cranky every night, I figured what the hell, get cranky out since he appeared to be red, because otherwise my role is just blindly flailing in the night. In the game I assumed we'd had, finding the alpha red who kills and then having no night kills is the only way I can be 100% sure that my outing that player would be catching a red. Otherwise, what do I do with the information when I role block them? I have no way of knowing if I am outing a green player, so its pretty much useless.
does not last night confirm cranky's claim? At the same time, all it does is disprove slappy's theory about cranky. Doesn't really say anything about slappy's own claim.
I must say, if slappy is lying it is one of the most thorough ones I've seen as far as sticking to the same consistent story. I'm not inclined to string him up at this point.
My question is how can a Green role blocker be effective if they cant communicate with the Seer? They are blindly blocking a player each night, there is no justification to do so other than a hunch.
Pretty much. Its why I came out when I did. In a 15 person game, I figured me (role blocker)/Angle/Seer and maybe 3 or 4 reds (didn't think there was a vig till MR, but I am guess he's just bad rather than indy now). When canaan came out as the seer, and I saw no deaths resulting from blocking cranky every night, I figured what the hell, get cranky out since he appeared to be red, because otherwise my role is just blindly flailing in the night. In the game I assumed we'd had, finding the alpha red who kills and then having no night kills is the only way I can be 100% sure that my outing that player would be catching a red. Otherwise, what do I do with the information when I role block them? I have no way of knowing if I am outing a green player, so its pretty much useless.
tldnr; pavel is diabolical.
And there still havent been any deaths and now Canaan was blocked. You can see that this looks bad on you?
does not last night confirm cranky's claim? At the same time, all it does is disprove slappy's theory about cranky. Doesn't really say anything about slappy's own claim.
I must say, if slappy is lying it is one of the most thorough ones I've seen as far as sticking to the same consistent story. I'm not inclined to string him up at this point.
Again, and I am repeating myself, the "story' checks out because it is exactly what happened and the truth. Everything I have said is 100% true.
Kaizer's vote on me is weird given that he hasn't been posting and then immediately after someone mentions him, he comes in with the cover that I am ok with being voted out. I was between him, columbia, and Cbear last night.
Cbear is "cleared" to the extent that all I know is he had no role power to utilize last night.
My question is how can a Green role blocker be effective if they cant communicate with the Seer? They are blindly blocking a player each night, there is no justification to do so other than a hunch.
Pretty much. Its why I came out when I did. In a 15 person game, I figured me (role blocker)/Angle/Seer and maybe 3 or 4 reds (didn't think there was a vig till MR, but I am guess he's just bad rather than indy now). When canaan came out as the seer, and I saw no deaths resulting from blocking cranky every night, I figured what the hell, get cranky out since he appeared to be red, because otherwise my role is just blindly flailing in the night. In the game I assumed we'd had, finding the alpha red who kills and then having no night kills is the only way I can be 100% sure that my outing that player would be catching a red. Otherwise, what do I do with the information when I role block them? I have no way of knowing if I am outing a green player, so its pretty much useless.
tldnr; pavel is diabolical.
And there still havent been any deaths and now Canaan was blocked. You can see that this looks bad on you?
I have repeatedly said that you can vote me out so that you can move on and learn that I am green and that the furor over my role ends. I don't have any other defense other than to again point that coming out when I did makes no sense, both timing and substance-wise.
I did not block canaan. Why would I have blocked canaan? If I am trying to stay alive, blocking canaan is the worst possible move for me to make (which incidentally, is why I'm not 100% trusting of knan for the time being).
I did not block canaan. Why would I have blocked canaan? If I am trying to stay alive, blocking canaan is the worst possible move for me to make (which incidentally, is why I'm not 100% trusting of knan for the time being).
You're seriously asking this? If you're bad, you prevent canaan from seeing you.
Im not. Im not trying to play some game of "I NEVER LIE IN THESE GAMES" so therefore dont vote me off. All I can tell you is what Ive told you and the reasoning behind it.
I have nothing to add. I think we were dumb yesterday to not string up one of them, and now we are sitting here today not only with the same questions as yesterday, but also more questions now. And we aren't going to get any answers until one of them are dead.
I personally don't know why you didn't look into one of them. However, slappy may have role blocked you assuming you would look at one of them and didn't want the answer revealed hopefully then stringing up crankshaft and getting rid of our angel.
I'm set on my vote, and slappy has even stated, and I agree with him, getting rid of him is probably the best possible long term move for the village regardless of what he is.
