2024-2025 Season Random Penguins Fodder

[Puck-Lurker]

Jarry at 5.375M still looks bad.

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Meanwhile our bottom six is anyone's guess. If Beauvilier goes to 1LW, DOC by default will be 3LW. Figure Eller and Hayes as the two centers. That leaves 3 wingers and 1 or 2 extras.

Puljujärvi, Glass, Acciari, Lizotte, Puustinen.. no more room at the inn. If they roll 8D, that's Puustinen down unless Lizotte is injured at season start.

Poulin, Nieto (never going to play again for the Pens'), Bemström (rumoured to exist), Gruden, Imama (Top Sixtito #2) and all the exempt kids.. no chance for now.

[100565]

Jarry at 5.375M still looks bad.

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Meanwhile our bottom six is anyone's guess. If Beauvilier goes to 1LW, DOC by default will be 3LW. Figure Eller and Hayes as the two centers. That leaves 3 wingers and 1 or 2 extras.

Puljujärvi, Glass, Acciari, Lizotte, Puustinen.. no more room at the inn. If they roll 8D, that's Puustinen down unless Lizotte is injured at season start.

Poulin, Nieto (never going to play again for the Pens'), Bemström (rumoured to exist), Gruden, Imama (Top Sixtito #2) and all the exempt kids.. no chance for now.

I agree. This is what I think they do. I do think Acciari has much less chance of being claimed than Puustinen. So if it was me, I would cut Acciari to start the year. I’d think Puustinen has 50% chance of getting claimed and Acciari has <10% chance. I think they keep Acciari.

[FLPensFan]

Jarry at 5.375M still looks bad.

.

Meanwhile our bottom six is anyone's guess. If Beauvilier goes to 1LW, DOC by default will be 3LW. Figure Eller and Hayes as the two centers. That leaves 3 wingers and 1 or 2 extras.

Puljujärvi, Glass, Acciari, Lizotte, Puustinen.. no more room at the inn. If they roll 8D, that's Puustinen down unless Lizotte is injured at season start.

Poulin, Nieto (never going to play again for the Pens'), Bemström (rumoured to exist), Gruden, Imama (Top Sixtito #2) and all the exempt kids.. no chance for now.

I agree. This is what I think they do. I do think Acciari has much less chance of being claimed than Puustinen. So if it was me, I would cut Acciari to start the year. I’d think Puustinen has 50% chance of getting claimed and Acciari has <10% chance. I think they keep Acciari.

I'm going to disagree. There are likely 9-10 teams only right now that could fit Acciari into their lineup. If they were to claim Acciari, he's likely playing on their 4th line, and most likely be a sure upgrade on a good number of players.

There are about 17 teams that could claim Puustinen at his salary (plus another player going out in his place). Puustinen is not a 4th line type player, so if they are claiming him, the team has to have a need at the NHL level for a 3rd line type play at least. I'm not sure how many teams have that type of need. I also think most teams see 5 goals in 53 games and aren't enamored with Puustinen. I think we over estimate his value around the league to some degree. Claiming Puustinen, a team is "hoping" he is better than what they have. It's not a sure upgrade.

I also think with EK65 injury status, we are more likely now to start with 8D than 14F. Without the injury, I assumed the other way around. Nieto can be chucked into the sun, Lizotte I'm assuming they are checking for facial fractures and he could be out. I don't see a shot at the roster for Poulin, Bemstrom, Gruden, Imama.

I think if we go 13F, it comes down to Puustinen, Lizotte, and Glass as to who makes the roster. I think Glass and Lizotte make it over Puustinen because they can both PK and they both can play W and C.

[Tico Rick]

Any news on Ned?

[Ericf]

Jarry at 5.375M still looks bad.

.

Meanwhile our bottom six is anyone's guess. If Beauvilier goes to 1LW, DOC by default will be 3LW. Figure Eller and Hayes as the two centers. That leaves 3 wingers and 1 or 2 extras.

Puljujärvi, Glass, Acciari, Lizotte, Puustinen.. no more room at the inn. If they roll 8D, that's Puustinen down unless Lizotte is injured at season start.

Poulin, Nieto (never going to play again for the Pens'), Bemström (rumoured to exist), Gruden, Imama (Top Sixtito #2) and all the exempt kids.. no chance for now.

I agree. This is what I think they do. I do think Acciari has much less chance of being claimed than Puustinen. So if it was me, I would cut Acciari to start the year. I’d think Puustinen has 50% chance of getting claimed and Acciari has <10% chance. I think they keep Acciari.

I'm going to disagree. There are likely 9-10 teams only right now that could fit Acciari into their lineup. If they were to claim Acciari, he's likely playing on their 4th line, and most likely be a sure upgrade on a good number of players.

There are about 17 teams that could claim Puustinen at his salary (plus another player going out in his place). Puustinen is not a 4th line type player, so if they are claiming him, the team has to have a need at the NHL level for a 3rd line type play at least. I'm not sure how many teams have that type of need. I also think most teams see 5 goals in 53 games and aren't enamored with Puustinen. I think we over estimate his value around the league to some degree. Claiming Puustinen, a team is "hoping" he is better than what they have. It's not a sure upgrade.

I also think with EK65 injury status, we are more likely now to start with 8D than 14F. Without the injury, I assumed the other way around. Nieto can be chucked into the sun, Lizotte I'm assuming they are checking for facial fractures and he could be out. I don't see a shot at the roster for Poulin, Bemstrom, Gruden, Imama.

I think if we go 13F, it comes down to Puustinen, Lizotte, and Glass as to who makes the roster. I think Glass and Lizotte make it over Puustinen because they can both PK and they both can play W and C.

I think the thinking is that Acciari has two years left on his contract with a modified NTC. Regardless of fitting his current salary in, would any team want to commit to that? I highly doubt it. I tend to agree that Puustinen is more likely to get claimed. Same reason I think Hayes wouldn’t get claimed either if waived. Extra year and they’re both being paid over market rate for a bottom-sixer likely fourth line player. Someone like CBJ might pick them up, but honestly, that probably benefits the Pens. Not that Acciari isn’t a useful player but I think we could play Glass or PoolParty on L4 in his role and be fine. We have a lot of decent PK options as last night showed. I would have no issue if the Pens wanted to waive Hayes or Acciari in order not to get younger players claimed

[Pitts]

Not sure what my entry was for the guess the roster contest, but after last night's game, here's what I'm going with up front:
Beauvillier - Crosby - Rust
Bunting - Malkin - Rakell
O'Connor - Eller - Puljujarvi
Hayes - Glass - Acciari - Puustinen

[Admin]

Any news on Ned?

Groin injury? Officially, the old lower body injury...

[FLPensFan]

Any news on Ned?

Groin injury? Officially, the old lower body injury...

About 15 minutes ago, Sullivan said both Lizotte and Ned were being evaluated this morning and that Sullivan didn't have an update yet on how those appointments went this morning.

[Puck-Lurker]

Hayes - Glass - Acciari - Puustinen

That's one way to solve roster problems. Put four guys on the fourth line

(I know what you meant though - though I don't see a scenario where Hayes plays wing.)

Jarry at 5.375M still looks bad.

.

Meanwhile our bottom six is anyone's guess. If Beauvilier goes to 1LW, DOC by default will be 3LW. Figure Eller and Hayes as the two centers. That leaves 3 wingers and 1 or 2 extras.

Puljujärvi, Glass, Acciari, Lizotte, Puustinen.. no more room at the inn. If they roll 8D, that's Puustinen down unless Lizotte is injured at season start.

Poulin, Nieto (never going to play again for the Pens'), Bemström (rumoured to exist), Gruden, Imama (Top Sixtito #2) and all the exempt kids.. no chance for now.

I agree. This is what I think they do. I do think Acciari has much less chance of being claimed than Puustinen. So if it was me, I would cut Acciari to start the year. I’d think Puustinen has 50% chance of getting claimed and Acciari has <10% chance. I think they keep Acciari.

I'm going to disagree. There are likely 9-10 teams only right now that could fit Acciari into their lineup. If they were to claim Acciari, he's likely playing on their 4th line, and most likely be a sure upgrade on a good number of players.

There are about 17 teams that could claim Puustinen at his salary (plus another player going out in his place). Puustinen is not a 4th line type player, so if they are claiming him, the team has to have a need at the NHL level for a 3rd line type play at least. I'm not sure how many teams have that type of need. I also think most teams see 5 goals in 53 games and aren't enamored with Puustinen. I think we over estimate his value around the league to some degree. Claiming Puustinen, a team is "hoping" he is better than what they have. It's not a sure upgrade.

I also think with EK65 injury status, we are more likely now to start with 8D than 14F. Without the injury, I assumed the other way around. Nieto can be chucked into the sun, Lizotte I'm assuming they are checking for facial fractures and he could be out. I don't see a shot at the roster for Poulin, Bemstrom, Gruden, Imama.

I think if we go 13F, it comes down to Puustinen, Lizotte, and Glass as to who makes the roster. I think Glass and Lizotte make it over Puustinen because they can both PK and they both can play W and C.

I don't think Puustinen is worth anything in a trade and not really on anyone's radar for a waivers claim. Yeah he can shoot the puck, but he also doesn't do it enough. Got 20 points last season, but 5 goals isn't much for a shooter type. He's one of those low production luxury winger types, not a swiss army knife, so his utility won't be high. I wouldn't say it's impossible he gets claimed, but chances are quite low. You need a very specific match

Teams would balk at Acciari's contract a bit, but if there's a need, he's a useful if not very productive fourth liner. I don't think he'd be a very appealing option, but there could be a fit for him on a few more teams than Puustinen. Think he'd clear too if waived.

[Pitts]

Hayes - Glass - Acciari - Puustinen

That's one way to solve roster problems. Put four guys on the fourth line

(I know what you meant though - though I don't see a scenario where Hayes plays wing.)

- extra forward. Pens site has Hayes listed at RW. I too think of him as a center. At the very least, I think those 4 give you options and can be a very nice 4th line considering the strength of the other 3 lines.

[KG]

Happy 59th birthday to the Big Guy. 66.

[100565]

Happy 59th birthday to the Big Guy. 66.

Yup. 10-05-65.

Wish he was around more but he never really liked all the attention.

[BigMcK]

If the Kings struggle when the season starts due to the loss of Doughty, and the Pens struggle due to (a number of weaknesses) do they kick the tires on a EK to the Kings trade? The Kings are closer to a playoff caliber team, and SoCal weather is easier to survive in, so both could be a selling point for EK to approve a trade.

Just wondering...

[KG]

Swayman saga has come to an end.

[Pitts]

And now that he's had ZERO training camp, watch him struggle this season.

[FLPensFan]

Swayman saga has come to an end.

Seems fair. Had him pegged at 8-9M, preferably in the 8 to 8.5M range. But man, Boston fans turned on him pretty quickly. 70% of internet keyboard warriors were wanting to dump him and saying he wasn't worth it. Then they saw Korpisalo play...

[KG]

Swayman got the Sorokin contract. Very fair. Not sure why Boston needed to drag him through the mud to give him this deal. It's a fair ask.

[Puck-Lurker]

Swayman saga has come to an end.

Seems fair. Had him pegged at 8-9M, preferably in the 8 to 8.5M range. But man, Boston fans turned on him pretty quickly. 70% of internet keyboard warriors were wanting to dump him and saying he wasn't worth it. Then they saw Korpisalo play...

Incidentally the exact AAV and term Sorokin has. Though Sorokin has a 4yr NMC and 4yr NTC (16 teams).

Fourth highest paid active goaltender. Good on him.

[bse]

That contract might look terrible in the near future. I think Swayman is heinously overrated.

[Puck-Lurker]

That contract might look terrible in the near future. I think Swayman is heinously overrated.

He'll be worth it the first 3-4 years I guess. Then you might see some buyer's remorse.

[KG]

Craig Patrick, Tyler Kennedy and Max Talbot are part of the in-studio rotating staff going forward.

Cool to see Patrick back with the team in a more visible role.

[largegarlic]

Craig Patrick, Tyler Kennedy and Max Talbot are part of the in-studio rotating staff going forward.

Cool to see Patrick back with the team in a more visible role.

That'll be interesting. I remember hearing Kennedy on with Madden a few times, and he seemed like the epitome of a Bylsma grinder. I think they were talking about the Pens/Rangers series of 2022, and basically every question Madden asked about what the Pens should do, Kennedy's answer was some variation of "chip the puck deep and get to work on the forecheck." What to do about the Rangers PP? How to solve Shesterkin? How to help out DeSmith as the Pens' backup goalie thrust into a starting role? The answer was always the same.

[FLPensFan]

Craig Patrick, Tyler Kennedy and Max Talbot are part of the in-studio rotating staff going forward.

Cool to see Patrick back with the team in a more visible role.

That'll be interesting. I remember hearing Kennedy on with Madden a few times, and he seemed like the epitome of a Bylsma grinder. I think they were talking about the Pens/Rangers series of 2022, and basically every question Madden asked about what the Pens should do, Kennedy's answer was some variation of "chip the puck deep and get to work on the forecheck." What to do about the Rangers PP? How to solve Shesterkin? How to help out DeSmith as the Pens' backup goalie thrust into a starting role? The answer was always the same.

Kennedy seems knowledgeable whenever I heard him. He was really one of the ones that confirmed to me that the Penguins needed to get some bigger bodies and push back more on opponents. A few years ago, he was talking about how teams know when teams are "pushovers." I believe he was talking about post-Cup Detroit, saying guys like him and Cooke loved going into Detroit because other than one or two guys, their team was soft and you knew you could play tough against them with little pushback.

[Pitts]

Craig Patrick, Tyler Kennedy and Max Talbot are part of the in-studio rotating staff going forward.

Cool to see Patrick back with the team in a more visible role.

Wouldn't he be about 85 years old?? Weird.

[cojac]

Craig Patrick, Tyler Kennedy and Max Talbot are part of the in-studio rotating staff going forward.

Cool to see Patrick back with the team in a more visible role.

Wouldn't he be about 85 years old?? Weird.

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