A little late, but... Breaking Bad???

[shmenguin]

So if everyone is staying quiet and it would be some weird move to tell the authorities what you know, why did Saul leave town in such secrecy?

[MWB]

No need for a montage at the end. Resolution was reached. Skyler had a proper goodbye with her husband, all the bad guys (and girl) died, no threat exists to jesse nor the white family any more, Jesse is free to live a life of his choosing provided he understands he should avoid DEA, Walt Jr. is about to get rich in 10 months and 2 days. Who really cares what actually happens to any of those people? They are all safe and free.

Notice Walt told Skyler he used all the money he had left to get back to ABQ. So even she has no idea the money being given to Walt Jr. is from Walt. She may suspect, but will never know for sure. The history of Gretchen trying to make things right financially with Walt and Walt's unwillingness to accept charity from them sheds doubt to that.

Agree completely.

The one thing I did question was how it would be believable that Walt would've burned through all that money that quickly. He used the line about it all being gone twice. Just seemed a bit of a very minor stretch.

[TPW]

So if everyone is staying quiet and it would be some weird move to tell the authorities what you know, why did Saul leave town in such secrecy?

My guess is that everybody knows he was Heisenberg's lawyer, and you don't really come back from that?

[tifosi77]

So if everyone is staying quiet and it would be some weird move to tell the authorities what you know, why did Saul leave town in such secrecy?

He left in the previous episode, months before the denouement‎ and resolution of Heisenberg. He and Walt were both waiting for their new identities at the Extractor's facility. If he stuck around, by the time everything played out in the final episode there'd probably be no reason for him to bail.

[PensFanInDC]

No need for a montage at the end. Resolution was reached. Skyler had a proper goodbye with her husband, all the bad guys (and girl) died, no threat exists to jesse nor the white family any more, Jesse is free to live a life of his choosing provided he understands he should avoid DEA, Walt Jr. is about to get rich in 10 months and 2 days. Who really cares what actually happens to any of those people? They are all safe and free.

Notice Walt told Skyler he used all the money he had left to get back to ABQ. So even she has no idea the money being given to Walt Jr. is from Walt. She may suspect, but will never know for sure. The history of Gretchen trying to make things right financially with Walt and Walt's unwillingness to accept charity from them sheds doubt to that.

Agree completely.

The one thing I did question was how it would be believable that Walt would've burned through all that money that quickly. He used the line about it all being gone twice. Just seemed a bit of a very minor stretch.

I would imagine it is rather expensive to remain totally hidden from the DEA and FBI for a few months while travelling across the USA and back.

[PensFanInDC]

I also thought it would be awesome if the lottery ticket was a winner....

[shmenguin]

So if everyone is staying quiet and it would be some weird move to tell the authorities what you know, why did Saul leave town in such secrecy?

He left in the previous episode, months before the denouement‎ and resolution of Heisenberg. He and Walt were both waiting for their new identities at the Extractor's facility. If he stuck around, by the time everything played out in the final episode there'd probably be no reason for him to bail.

he wouldn't bail unless there was certainty that he needed to bail. not that character.

but we can put a pin in that. skylar absolutely tells them about jesse. she's scared he'll tell them what - that she was running the carwash, knowing it was being funded by drug money? they already know that. and her motivation to tell them everything to get them off of her back would trump her motivation to let the storm blow over. the feds clearly aren't inclined to let things blow over either way. this is a chip she would play.

marie absolutely tells them as well. you think the DEA doesn't already know about hank's bootleg investigation? marie doesn't tell them? when he's missing/dead, marie is going to withhold that information even though it would be helpful in finding his body? no way.

i'm not sure how the legal system works with this sort of thing, so i don't know if there would be a warrant out for jesse or just a subpoena or something else, but he's at least a person of interest - probably a fugitive. it's disingenuous for gilligan to sell us that he can just go get a job and fill out a W2 with Dexter cutting down trees or whatever.

either way...fugitive or no...we deserved to know more about jesse's future. i think i'll ultimately appreciate this finale a great deal, but this is a fly in the ointment.

[count2infinity]

I'm going to go ahead and believe that Jesse's life is rainbows and sunshine from here on out, and I think that's what Vince sort of wanted us to feel by not fully going into what he does, just drives away smiling and happy.

[MWB]

If he's a person of interest, why is it never brought up? There are probable and plausible reasons why it's not.

[MWB]

I'm going to go ahead and believe that Jesse's life is rainbows and sunshine from here on out, and I think that's what Vince sort of wanted us to feel by not fully going into what he does, just drives away smiling and happy.

I just think that he wanted there to be that possibility out there for Jesse, not that his life would certainly be all happy now.

[shmenguin]

If he's a person of interest, why is it never brought up? There are probable and plausible reasons why it's not.

because of what c2i said - gilligan wants it to be sunshine and rainbows for him.

...which is what we call a plot hole. you can't go that way without some exposition that makes it plausible. skylar being scared of tiny little jesse repercussions and marie giving the investigation a big whatever isn't enough.

[count2infinity]

happier for sure, though.

[Gaucho]

Jesse will simply go home and get stoned. He's not going to miraculously transform into a new person or whatever. Maybe he'll find another Jane (bad news) or another Andrea (good news) and maybe he will sort of grow up. But probably not. He's a schlemiel.

[Staggy]

I kinda like that Gilligan left Jesse's fate up to us. We didn't necessarily need complete closure with Jesse's character like we did with Walt's, it was just nice to see him at least temporarily triumphant and know that he has some hope going forward in his life. Could he be pulled over by the Feds in 12 hours? Sure, but maybe he won't be.

[MWB]

Jesse will simply go home and get stoned. He's not going to miraculously transform into a new person or whatever. Maybe he'll find another Jane (bad news) or another Andrea (good news) and maybe he will sort of grow up. But probably not. He's a schlemiel.

I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility that going through what he did could change his perspective some.

[MWB]

happier for sure, though.

Yes, for sure.

[count2infinity]

If he's a person of interest, why is it never brought up? There are probable and plausible reasons why it's not.

because of what c2i said - gilligan wants it to be sunshine and rainbows for him.

...which is what we call a plot hole. you can't go that way without some exposition that makes it plausible. skylar being scared of tiny little jesse repercussions and marie giving the investigation a big whatever isn't enough.

I was crucified for this in the movie thread and have stayed out since, but I can't stand people's constant need to look for and point out "plot holes". It's a very odd epidemic that the general internet population has fallen in love with doing... it really annoys me. Just enjoy it. Movies and TV shows are meant to be an escape from reality. Could Walt have really done what he has done? Nope, but it's still an enjoyable show. I don't see any further explanation needed for Jesse's character. Make of his ending in the show what you will.

[Gaucho]

Jesse will simply go home and get stoned. He's not going to miraculously transform into a new person or whatever. Maybe he'll find another Jane (bad news) or another Andrea (good news) and maybe he will sort of grow up. But probably not. He's a schlemiel.

I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility that going through what he did could change his perspective some.

Some, yes. Andrea was good for him, no doubt. But he's not very good at picking the right company.

[MWB]

If he's a person of interest, why is it never brought up? There are probable and plausible reasons why it's not.

because of what c2i said - gilligan wants it to be sunshine and rainbows for him.

...which is what we call a plot hole. you can't go that way without some exposition that makes it plausible. skylar being scared of tiny little jesse repercussions and marie giving the investigation a big whatever isn't enough.

What does Skylar gain from saying anything about Jesse? She doesn't view him as anything either... as you say, "tiny little Jesse." Marie is convinced that Walt is the awful, insane one. All focus is on him. End him, that is her sole focus.

I get what you're saying, I just think the explanations that are there work within the show and the characters.

[MWB]

I don't see any further explanation needed for Jesse's character. Make of his ending in the show what you will.

Which is what Gilligan wanted... the viewer decides how they think Jesse turned out. A great part of the show is the debates like this on how characters would end up.

[shmenguin]

If he's a person of interest, why is it never brought up? There are probable and plausible reasons why it's not.

because of what c2i said - gilligan wants it to be sunshine and rainbows for him.

...which is what we call a plot hole. you can't go that way without some exposition that makes it plausible. skylar being scared of tiny little jesse repercussions and marie giving the investigation a big whatever isn't enough.

I was crucified for this in the movie thread and have stayed out since, but I can't stand people's constant need to look for and point out "plot holes". It's a very odd epidemic that the general internet population has fallen in love with doing... it really annoys me. Just enjoy it. Movies and TV shows are meant to be an escape from reality. Could Walt have really done what he has done? Nope, but it's still an enjoyable show. I don't see any further explanation needed for Jesse's character. Make of his ending in the show what you will.

There's a big difference between an unrealistic moment and a plot hole. It's a pretty easy distinction, actually.

[count2infinity]

ummmmm.... okay. so which is an unrealistic moment and a plot hole: Jesse leaving not being arrested by the DEA for the things he's done to this point or Walt cooking meth and becoming a drug kingpin???

[shmenguin]

If I explain, will it help either of us?

[count2infinity]

Probably not... I've already expressed my dislike for someone taking a pretty minor detail and calling it a plot hole.

[Staggy]

A question I'm genuinely curious about; what the hell kind of place did the Nazis live at? A fenced-in, barb wired location with 24 hour video surveillance. Also an on site meth lab and probably ~100 million dollars on hand. It looked like there was a main street and several houses/buildings, which makes sense since there was about 8 people living on the site. What did people driving by think this place was?