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thehockeyguru wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 12:42 pm
dark_forces wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 12:32 pm
I just saw a quick bit rumor stating that Pittsburgh is dabbling in the UFA to be goaltender market. I guess this culminated from Ned being no more than a no. 2 and Jarry falling off the face of the earth. The idea is to acquire a specific UFA to be goalie and see how he does for the rest of the year, a test drive so to speak. They didn't say who the goalie was, so we'll have to do our research.
Wasn't Samsonov with Dubas in Toronto?
Yes, but I was thinking someone like the Utah goalie who has the bizarre name.
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dark_forces wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 1:02 pm
thehockeyguru wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 12:42 pm
dark_forces wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 12:32 pm
I just saw a quick bit rumor stating that Pittsburgh is dabbling in the UFA to be goaltender market. I guess this culminated from Ned being no more than a no. 2 and Jarry falling off the face of the earth. The idea is to acquire a specific UFA to be goalie and see how he does for the rest of the year, a test drive so to speak. They didn't say who the goalie was, so we'll have to do our research.
Wasn't Samsonov with Dubas in Toronto?
Yes, but I was thinking someone like the Utah goalie who has the bizarre name.
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Trading for a UFA goalie seems really weird to me. I could see that maybe they're thinking that they have a bad situation for next season in that the 2 guys they have 1-way NHL deals clearly aren't #1s, and the young guys with promise won't be ready to be #1s by next season. However, if you get a better #1 UFA right now, that guy might ruin the tank job, and if you extend him, then you'll have 3 goalies on 1-way deals and 3 other guys who will hopefully be pushing for NHL time in the near future. That also seems like a bad situation.

I can see trying to unload Nedjelkovic in the off-season (I would unload Jarry too, but I don't think that's possible) and then trying to bring in a new guy to take the heat while the young guys develop, but I wouldn't try that now.
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FLPensFan wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 1:35 pm
dark_forces wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 1:02 pm
thehockeyguru wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 12:42 pm
dark_forces wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 12:32 pm
I just saw a quick bit rumor stating that Pittsburgh is dabbling in the UFA to be goaltender market. I guess this culminated from Ned being no more than a no. 2 and Jarry falling off the face of the earth. The idea is to acquire a specific UFA to be goalie and see how he does for the rest of the year, a test drive so to speak. They didn't say who the goalie was, so we'll have to do our research.
Wasn't Samsonov with Dubas in Toronto?
Yes, but I was thinking someone like the Utah goalie who has the bizarre name.
Vejmalka
Yeah Id prefer Vejmalka too
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KG wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 1:05 pm


Boston retained 1.15M, New Jersey 575k. I'm surprised that you can have a player on your roster and pay him less than league minimum.
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thehockeyguru wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 1:57 pm
FLPensFan wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 1:35 pm
dark_forces wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 1:02 pm
thehockeyguru wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 12:42 pm
dark_forces wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 12:32 pm
I just saw a quick bit rumor stating that Pittsburgh is dabbling in the UFA to be goaltender market. I guess this culminated from Ned being no more than a no. 2 and Jarry falling off the face of the earth. The idea is to acquire a specific UFA to be goalie and see how he does for the rest of the year, a test drive so to speak. They didn't say who the goalie was, so we'll have to do our research.
Wasn't Samsonov with Dubas in Toronto?
Yes, but I was thinking someone like the Utah goalie who has the bizarre name.
Vejmalka
Yeah Id prefer Vejmalka too
Sounds like a milk-drink chock full of veggies.
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thehockeyguru wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 1:57 pm
FLPensFan wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 1:35 pm
dark_forces wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 1:02 pm
thehockeyguru wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 12:42 pm
dark_forces wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 12:32 pm
I just saw a quick bit rumor stating that Pittsburgh is dabbling in the UFA to be goaltender market. I guess this culminated from Ned being no more than a no. 2 and Jarry falling off the face of the earth. The idea is to acquire a specific UFA to be goalie and see how he does for the rest of the year, a test drive so to speak. They didn't say who the goalie was, so we'll have to do our research.
Wasn't Samsonov with Dubas in Toronto?
Yes, but I was thinking someone like the Utah goalie who has the bizarre name.
Vejmalka
Yeah Id prefer Vejmalka too
Vejmelka is solid. He had reasonable numbers behind terrible Arizona teams. If I remember correctly, Colorado was rumored to be interested in him before they traded for Blackwood.

I wonder what Utah would be looking for. I believe Pittsburgh would have to send a goalie to avoid increasing the logjam they already have.
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dark_forces wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 1:02 pm
thehockeyguru wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 12:42 pm
dark_forces wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 12:32 pm
I just saw a quick bit rumor stating that Pittsburgh is dabbling in the UFA to be goaltender market. I guess this culminated from Ned being no more than a no. 2 and Jarry falling off the face of the earth. The idea is to acquire a specific UFA to be goalie and see how he does for the rest of the year, a test drive so to speak. They didn't say who the goalie was, so we'll have to do our research.
Wasn't Samsonov with Dubas in Toronto?
Yes, but I was thinking someone like the Utah goalie who has the bizarre name.
John Gibson. LOL
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Pitts wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 2:56 pm
dark_forces wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 1:02 pm
thehockeyguru wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 12:42 pm
dark_forces wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 12:32 pm
I just saw a quick bit rumor stating that Pittsburgh is dabbling in the UFA to be goaltender market. I guess this culminated from Ned being no more than a no. 2 and Jarry falling off the face of the earth. The idea is to acquire a specific UFA to be goalie and see how he does for the rest of the year, a test drive so to speak. They didn't say who the goalie was, so we'll have to do our research.
Wasn't Samsonov with Dubas in Toronto?
Yes, but I was thinking someone like the Utah goalie who has the bizarre name.
John Gibson. LOL
There had been some talk again of how Anaheim was going to push him out and run with Dostal and Husso. There was some talk again of Pittsburgh being a good spot for him. But rumors are that if Gibson is dealt, he at least wants a shot to be the #1 goalie. If Anaheim wanted to swap Gibson for Jarry and a 5th, I'd do it. Saves them 1M AAV in cap for 2 years, but adds a 3rd year. Otherwise, not really interested.
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I've had my questions about this guy in the past. I believe he has claimed to be a previous NHL scout....and I do see that Kevin Weekes follows this guy.

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FLPensFan wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 3:54 pm
I've had my questions about this guy in the past. I believe he has claimed to be a previous NHL scout....and I do see that Kevin Weekes follows this guy.

Winnipeg definitely has the assets to get Rakell if they wanted to. Assuming Winnipeg isn't on Rakell's no trade list.
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Good article from Benz, at least someone is still calling EK out.

Didn’t see it posted anywhere yet.

https://triblive.com/sports/tim-benz-er ... nt-clause/

He really seems way too content here IMO. That interview he did over the weekend during his 2 goal game he was all smiles and joking like he’s had a great time here the past 2 seasons. He even joked about making a mistake every once in a while, LOL. I’m glad you’re enjoying the time here, but you were supposed to help propel this team to the playoffs and instead have propelled them right into the toilet. Thanks dude.

and Sullivan continues to do nothing.
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Seems like a good day to make a trade!
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FLPensFan wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 3:28 pm
Pitts wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 2:56 pm
dark_forces wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 1:02 pm
thehockeyguru wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 12:42 pm
dark_forces wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 12:32 pm
I just saw a quick bit rumor stating that Pittsburgh is dabbling in the UFA to be goaltender market. I guess this culminated from Ned being no more than a no. 2 and Jarry falling off the face of the earth. The idea is to acquire a specific UFA to be goalie and see how he does for the rest of the year, a test drive so to speak. They didn't say who the goalie was, so we'll have to do our research.
Wasn't Samsonov with Dubas in Toronto?
Yes, but I was thinking someone like the Utah goalie who has the bizarre name.
John Gibson. LOL
There had been some talk again of how Anaheim was going to push him out and run with Dostal and Husso. There was some talk again of Pittsburgh being a good spot for him. But rumors are that if Gibson is dealt, he at least wants a shot to be the #1 goalie. If Anaheim wanted to swap Gibson for Jarry and a 5th, I'd do it. Saves them 1M AAV in cap for 2 years, but adds a 3rd year. Otherwise, not really interested.


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FLPensFan wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 3:28 pm
Pitts wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 2:56 pm
dark_forces wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 1:02 pm
thehockeyguru wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 12:42 pm
dark_forces wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 12:32 pm
I just saw a quick bit rumor stating that Pittsburgh is dabbling in the UFA to be goaltender market. I guess this culminated from Ned being no more than a no. 2 and Jarry falling off the face of the earth. The idea is to acquire a specific UFA to be goalie and see how he does for the rest of the year, a test drive so to speak. They didn't say who the goalie was, so we'll have to do our research.
Wasn't Samsonov with Dubas in Toronto?
Yes, but I was thinking someone like the Utah goalie who has the bizarre name.
John Gibson. LOL
There had been some talk again of how Anaheim was going to push him out and run with Dostal and Husso. There was some talk again of Pittsburgh being a good spot for him. But rumors are that if Gibson is dealt, he at least wants a shot to be the #1 goalie. If Anaheim wanted to swap Gibson for Jarry and a 5th, I'd do it. Saves them 1M AAV in cap for 2 years, but adds a 3rd year. Otherwise, not really interested.
At this stage, I dont want Gibson here.. lets run these next years with Larsson, Blomquist and Murashov.. Murashov takes over as no.1 in 2-3 years
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No guarantees, but if at all possible, I expect Penguins trades to happen Wednesday and Thursday, or be early morning trades on Friday at the latest. With the Penguins playing in Vegas Friday night, WBS is going to be about as far away as possible in Hartford for their game Friday night.

Other option would be to make one trade early, like Grzelcyk or Beauvillier, and use that cap space and roster space to recall an extra d-man and forward ahead of time.
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Darkhorse Rakell trade idea:

Rakell to Tampa for Connor Geekie and a 2025 2nd round pick (LA or TOR)

Getting Rakell would allow Tampa to really have a loaded top 6:

Guentzel-Point-Kucherov
Rakell-Cirelli-Hagel

Rakell would kick Girgensons out of the top 6. Tampa has the cap space, and for a team that has a lot of expensive forwards, a 5M Rakell is a bargain price for them.

Geekie is a big 6'4" former 11th overall pick by Arizona. Plays center and wing, and is projected to be a good 2nd or 3rd line center. You'd hope for it to be the former rather than the later. Geekie turns 21 in May, but he's already played 49 NHL games this season. He fits the mold of what Dubas wants...a young NHLer.
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FLPensFan wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 6:39 pm
No guarantees, but if at all possible, I expect Penguins trades to happen Wednesday and Thursday, or be early morning trades on Friday at the latest. With the Penguins playing in Vegas Friday night, WBS is going to be about as far away as possible in Hartford for their game Friday night.

Other option would be to make one trade early, like Grzelcyk or Beauvillier, and use that cap space and roster space to recall an extra d-man and forward ahead of time.
That sounds about right.

My guess is something like 2 of Grzelcyk/Beauvillier/Acciari/Hayes traded Wednesday/Thursday and another 1 of them along with Rakell closer to the deadline. Sprinkle in a player add and an AHL deal or 2.
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FLPensFan wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 7:03 pm
Darkhorse Rakell trade idea:

Rakell to Tampa for Connor Geekie and a 2025 2nd round pick (LA or TOR)

Getting Rakell would allow Tampa to really have a loaded top 6:

Guentzel-Point-Kucherov
Rakell-Cirelli-Hagel

Rakell would kick Girgensons out of the top 6. Tampa has the cap space, and for a team that has a lot of expensive forwards, a 5M Rakell is a bargain price for them.

Geekie is a big 6'4" former 11th overall pick by Arizona. Plays center and wing, and is projected to be a good 2nd or 3rd line center. You'd hope for it to be the former rather than the later. Geekie turns 21 in May, but he's already played 49 NHL games this season. He fits the mold of what Dubas wants...a young NHLer.
I was just reading that Tampa has close to $6mill in cap space and they are expected to spend it. Geekie would be a good get and instantly becomes our best center prospect in some time.
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Pens4Life wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 4:56 pm
FLPensFan wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 3:28 pm
Pitts wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 2:56 pm
dark_forces wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 1:02 pm
thehockeyguru wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 12:42 pm


Wasn't Samsonov with Dubas in Toronto?
Yes, but I was thinking someone like the Utah goalie who has the bizarre name.
John Gibson. LOL
There had been some talk again of how Anaheim was going to push him out and run with Dostal and Husso. There was some talk again of Pittsburgh being a good spot for him. But rumors are that if Gibson is dealt, he at least wants a shot to be the #1 goalie. If Anaheim wanted to swap Gibson for Jarry and a 5th, I'd do it. Saves them 1M AAV in cap for 2 years, but adds a 3rd year. Otherwise, not really interested.
At this stage, I dont want Gibson here.. lets run these next years with Larsson, Blomquist and Murashov.. Murashov takes over as no.1 in 2-3 years
Same here, not interested in Gibson, at least not for his play on the ice. It's not a need for us at this point, and we have futures at the position. However, if it is a move to dump Jarry or gain assets, I'd consider it.

Just seems odd we'd be looking at a goalie. I get the explanation there, but wouldn't we (almost) need to ship one out? Jarry is unlikely, so is Ned. Maybe we're considering parting with one of Blomqvist/Larsson in a deal?
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KG wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 7:06 pm
FLPensFan wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 7:03 pm
Darkhorse Rakell trade idea:

Rakell to Tampa for Connor Geekie and a 2025 2nd round pick (LA or TOR)

Getting Rakell would allow Tampa to really have a loaded top 6:

Guentzel-Point-Kucherov
Rakell-Cirelli-Hagel

Rakell would kick Girgensons out of the top 6. Tampa has the cap space, and for a team that has a lot of expensive forwards, a 5M Rakell is a bargain price for them.

Geekie is a big 6'4" former 11th overall pick by Arizona. Plays center and wing, and is projected to be a good 2nd or 3rd line center. You'd hope for it to be the former rather than the later. Geekie turns 21 in May, but he's already played 49 NHL games this season. He fits the mold of what Dubas wants...a young NHLer.
I was just reading that Tampa has close to $6mill in cap space and they are expected to spend it. Geekie would be a good get and instantly becomes our best center prospect in some time.
For reference, Geekie is rated 53rd in Athletic's 100 NHL prospect rankings. McGroarty is 44th.
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KG wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 7:06 pm
FLPensFan wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 7:03 pm
Darkhorse Rakell trade idea:

Rakell to Tampa for Connor Geekie and a 2025 2nd round pick (LA or TOR)

Getting Rakell would allow Tampa to really have a loaded top 6:

Guentzel-Point-Kucherov
Rakell-Cirelli-Hagel

Rakell would kick Girgensons out of the top 6. Tampa has the cap space, and for a team that has a lot of expensive forwards, a 5M Rakell is a bargain price for them.

Geekie is a big 6'4" former 11th overall pick by Arizona. Plays center and wing, and is projected to be a good 2nd or 3rd line center. You'd hope for it to be the former rather than the later. Geekie turns 21 in May, but he's already played 49 NHL games this season. He fits the mold of what Dubas wants...a young NHLer.
I was just reading that Tampa has close to $6mill in cap space and they are expected to spend it. Geekie would be a good get and instantly becomes our best center prospect in some time.
Interesting. I do like the idea of the 2nd being this year, being that we don't have one in that round.

I think I'm rooting for a Rakell/Clarke swap though. Whatever picks/prospects/cap dumps mixed in to even it out.
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FLPensFan wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 7:03 pm
Darkhorse Rakell trade idea:

Rakell to Tampa for Connor Geekie and a 2025 2nd round pick (LA or TOR)

Getting Rakell would allow Tampa to really have a loaded top 6:

Guentzel-Point-Kucherov
Rakell-Cirelli-Hagel

Rakell would kick Girgensons out of the top 6. Tampa has the cap space, and for a team that has a lot of expensive forwards, a 5M Rakell is a bargain price for them.

Geekie is a big 6'4" former 11th overall pick by Arizona. Plays center and wing, and is projected to be a good 2nd or 3rd line center. You'd hope for it to be the former rather than the later. Geekie turns 21 in May, but he's already played 49 NHL games this season. He fits the mold of what Dubas wants...a young NHLer.

Weekes was commenting on this possibility today on NHL XM. He seemed to poo-poo the idea. But I think this could very well happen. Tampa is about as in “win now” mode as they have ever been. Rakell might be a perfect fit to solidify that 2nd line