Barrasso career points record

Bill · Post by **Bill** » Thu Aug 09, 2007 4:05 pm

I saw in the latest Crash the Net Q + A that Barrasso has the career points record for a goalie with 48. I was wondering if any current goalies are in reach of that and was also wondering how many points Fleury currently has. Obviously, most sites just have goalie stats and no offense stats. Is there a site that has both?

DelPen · Post by **DelPen** » Thu Aug 09, 2007 4:17 pm

Fleury only has 4 so far.

Brodeur only has 28. I don't know if anyone is even close to Barrasso.

Henry Hank · Post by **Henry Hank** » Thu Aug 09, 2007 4:17 pm

www.hockeydb.com has goalie stats. Brodeur was the first guy to come to mind for me. He's got one goal and 27 assists. He maybe has an outside shot depending on how many more years he goes. Hextall had a goal and 33 assists. Grant Fuhr had 46 assists. Roy had 45.

Fleury has four assists (had three last season).

I'm going to look around some more. It's probably not a record likely to be broken. Barrasso racked up a ton in the 80's, as did Fuhr. Barrasso was strong with the puck and he had a lot of talent to work with.

jimjom · Post by **jimjom** » Thu Aug 09, 2007 4:19 pm

He also led the league in stab wounds.

Henry Hank · Post by **Henry Hank** » Thu Aug 09, 2007 4:24 pm

Belfour seems to be the leading active player with 34. CuJo has 31.

Loaf31 · Post by **Loaf31** » Thu Aug 09, 2007 4:33 pm

I never knew TOmmy B. had so many assists...gotta love the 80's style of play.

interstorm · Post by **interstorm** » Thu Aug 09, 2007 4:44 pm

Loaf31 wrote:
I never knew TOmmy B. had so many assists...gotta love the 80's style of play.

...yeah, and they had set plays. i remember mario's 5 game performace at the garden in 93 (after he came back from cancer) - that was one of the most magical games i've ever seen. anyway, one of those goals had lemieux rushing to the red line when the rangers dumped the puck in for a line change. tommy to it and swung it out quickly, allowing mario to go in all alone.

Zarovich · Post by **Zarovich** » Thu Aug 09, 2007 7:29 pm

Won't it be more difficult for goalies to get points now that they can't handle the puck outside the trapezoid?

meow · Post by **meow** » Thu Aug 09, 2007 8:00 pm

The only guys that would ever sniff that record would be DiPetro or Turco with the way they can handle the puck. The trapezoid, I think, put that record out of reach.

Post by **Pitts** » Thu Aug 09, 2007 8:02 pm

Loaf31 wrote:
I never knew TOmmy B. had so many assists...gotta love the 80's style of play.

Quite simple actualy:

Barrasso corrals the puck behind the net, sends it up - long pass - to Murphy. Murphy carries the puck into the zone. He feeds Mario - HE SHOOTS AND SCORES!!!

Post by **Pitts** » Thu Aug 09, 2007 8:05 pm

fletch wrote:
Loaf31 wrote:
I never knew TOmmy B. had so many assists...gotta love the 80's style of play.

Was more of the fact he was like a 3rd defenseman with the stick. He was capable of same great break out passes from a dump in. never could figure out why teams kept insisting on trying to dump against him. He was the best goalie Ive ever seen at getting the puck and sending it right back out of the zone.

Barrasso was so friggin' good in his prime! Between the way he could handle the puck and make those glove saves, he was the best.

tjand72 · Post by **tjand72** » Thu Aug 09, 2007 9:08 pm

Hextall actually scored 2 goals. And he has a share of the league record for craziness points.

wondermoose · Post by **wondermoose** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 2:21 am

That's another safe record, kind of like Gretzky's records. The game is different now. Gone are the days of a goalie stopping a puck for player such as Mario or Gretzky and them just waltzing right through defenders to score. Yes, that still happens, I know, but not at the same frequency. As much as the lockout did to open up the ice, sophisticated work out regimens did for defensemen. Not to mention goalie equipment... whew. While all the records in hockey are great, it's sad to be (99%) sure that a lot of individual records will never be broken again.

Post by **The Snapshot** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 11:28 am

Jake wrote:
Zarovich wrote:
Won't it be more difficult for goalies to get points now that they can't handle the puck outside the trapezoid?
No, because now they can gun it down ice with no two-line passes.

Also, that only prevents them from going into the corners for pucks, but they can still play them anywhere out of those small zones. I do agree that the 2-line pass helps to offset that.

I think Dipietro may have a shot, but that depends on who he has to pass it to.

meow · Post by **meow** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 2:16 pm

tjand72 wrote:
Hextall actually scored 2 goals. And he has a share of the league record for craziness points.

I believe he and Marty McSorley are tied for the led of that record

wondermoose · Post by **wondermoose** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 2:42 pm

meow wrote:
tjand72 wrote:
Hextall actually scored 2 goals. And he has a share of the league record for craziness points.
I believe he and Marty McSorley are tied for the led of that record

You gotta throw Tie Domi into that as well...

Daniel87 · Post by **Daniel87** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 3:25 pm

Jake wrote:
Zarovich wrote:
Won't it be more difficult for goalies to get points now that they can't handle the puck outside the trapezoid?
No, because now they can gun it down ice with no two-line passes.

I don't think that does much of a difference. You don't see goalies passing to the opposite blueline very often. Now that they can't play it in the trapezoid it'll hinder goalies chances because most of the time that's where the goalies get the puck to pass.