Jarry Recalled

[IntangibleBeer]

According to the Trib, Jarry is being recalled to the Penguins.

[KG]

They sent down Blomqvist, Ponomarev and Bemstrom. It’s due to the 2 week break so they can play.

[IntangibleBeer]

They sent down Blomqvist, Ponomarev and Bemstrom. It’s due to the 2 week break so they can play.

OK, so it really doesn't mean anything? Does Jarry have to face waivers to go back down after the 2 week break (I hope)?

[FLPensFan]

They sent down Blomqvist, Ponomarev and Bemstrom. It’s due to the 2 week break so they can play.

OK, so it really doesn't mean anything? Does Jarry have to face waivers to go back down after the 2 week break (I hope)?

I think he will, but not certain. Usually, waivers is good for 30 days or 10 games. Jarry was on waivers around January 15th; the last 4 Nations game is on February 17th. So, if they wait until that tournament is over, I think he needs to clear again. If they wanted to put him out there again, then they wait. If for some reason they want to try and retain him, then I suspect they would send him back down a few days before Feb 15th.

[Puck-Lurker]

They sent down Blomqvist, Ponomarev and Bemstrom. It’s due to the 2 week break so they can play.

OK, so it really doesn't mean anything? Does Jarry have to face waivers to go back down after the 2 week break (I hope)?

I think he will, but not certain. Usually, waivers is good for 30 days or 10 games. Jarry was on waivers around January 15th; the last 4 Nations game is on February 17th. So, if they wait until that tournament is over, I think he needs to clear again. If they wanted to put him out there again, then they wait. If for some reason they want to try and retain him, then I suspect they would send him back down a few days before Feb 15th.

Imagine if he got waived a second time and someone claims him... Ahhh a man can dream!

[DeHaven162]

I think even after 4 Nations, we should just keep Jarry in Pittsburgh. Let Ned be the number one guy, it doesn't do Blom any good to just sit constantly. And it's not like his play at the NHL level has been so great that he needs to be here, he's honestly been meh. I know the team in front of him is what it is, but he hasn't looked great at the NHL level. Let him stay down with his young counterparts, and experience the winning environment that is happening in WBS right now.

[Pitts]

I think even after 4 Nations, we should just keep Jarry in Pittsburgh. Let Ned be the number one guy, it doesn't do Blom any good to just sit constantly. And it's not like his play at the NHL level has been so great that he needs to be here, he's honestly been meh. I know the team in front of him is what it is, but he hasn't looked great at the NHL level. Let him stay down with his young counterparts, and experience the winning environment that is happening in WBS right now.

Agreed. the only issue is the logjam of good young goalies they have in the minors. I expect it would mean Murashov back down the the E - and he is far too good for that. They really should talk to Jarry about terminating.

[FLPensFan]

I think even after 4 Nations, we should just keep Jarry in Pittsburgh. Let Ned be the number one guy, it doesn't do Blom any good to just sit constantly. And it's not like his play at the NHL level has been so great that he needs to be here, he's honestly been meh. I know the team in front of him is what it is, but he hasn't looked great at the NHL level. Let him stay down with his young counterparts, and experience the winning environment that is happening in WBS right now.

Agreed. the only issue is the logjam of good young goalies they have in the minors. I expect it would mean Murashov back down the the E - and he is far too good for that. They really should talk to Jarry about terminating.

Penguins need to have an honest conversation, if they haven't already, about their future plans. Are they willing to let him play in WBS and again potentially regain his form, and play NHL games for them? I think this time has passed. At his age, I don't magically see him improving and solving the many challenges he has when he's off his game.

Dubas should be telling him that moving forward, unless there is an emergency situation, the likelihood of Jarry playing NHL games for Pittsburgh is almost zero. Then Jarry has a decision to make....does he ride it out in the AHL for 3 years, collecting a fat paycheck ? Pre-tax, agent fees, etc, he's due 16.1M over the next 3 years. He's not going to make that type of money again. Or if he really wants to play NHL games, terminate the contract, give up the money, and be available in the summer for a team to sign.

Honestly, I think Jarry would be dumb to terminate his contract with the state of goaltending in the NHL. It's become like RBs in the NFL...they are a dime a dozen, and except for maybe the top 5-8 guys in the league, there isn't a major amount of variance from one guy to the next. Jarry could even slightly improve, but still have a hard time earning a job or getting paid more than 1M AAV.

[lemieuxReturns]

This is the organization essentially telling Jarry, "You are neither part of our long-term or short-term plans". This move allows the goalies that the organization cares about to have playing time while the NHL rests during the 4-nations break. Imagine being moved down to the AHL to only be recalled when the NHL is on break so that the "real goalies that matter" get ice time. It has to suck. But this is the situation he finds himself in.

"Honestly, I think Jarry would be dumb to terminate his contract with the state of goaltending in the NHL. It's become like RBs in the NFL...they are a dime a dozen, and except for maybe the top 5-8 guys in the league, there isn't a major amount of variance from one guy to the next. Jarry could even slightly improve, but still have a hard time earning a job or getting paid more than 1M AAV."

Yea, I agree. There is no way a team has them play NHL games for them at the level he is playing now. His best bet would be to play well down in the AHL and hopefully a team that has an injury contacts the pens and asks for a trade. His only hope is to play himself out of the Penguins organization.

[EndO FanEra]

This is the organization essentially telling Jarry, "You are neither part of our long-term or short-term plans". This move allows the goalies that the organization cares about to have playing time while the NHL rests during the 4-nations break. Imagine being moved down to the AHL to only be recalled when the NHL is on break so that the "real goalies that matter" get ice time. It has to suck. But this is the situation he finds himself in.

"Honestly, I think Jarry would be dumb to terminate his contract with the state of goaltending in the NHL. It's become like RBs in the NFL...they are a dime a dozen, and except for maybe the top 5-8 guys in the league, there isn't a major amount of variance from one guy to the next. Jarry could even slightly improve, but still have a hard time earning a job or getting paid more than 1M AAV."

Yea, I agree. There is no way a team has them play NHL games for them at the level he is playing now. His best bet would be to play well down in the AHL and hopefully a team that has an injury contacts the pens and asks for a trade. His only hope is to play himself out of the Penguins organization.

Yeah, it is a crappy situation for both parties. I can't see Jarry walking away from that kind of money when he knows he's not going to get anywhere near that on a new contract.

I also don't see another team taking him on with that existing contract either. We'll likely have to eat some of that salary or unload some assets to have someone else eat it. @ $5.375M per, it won't be cheap. I'm thinking a team would probably ask for the full 50% to be retained in order to make it palatable. That's carrying a ~$2.5M dead cap hit for the following 3 season. Good thing the cap is going up...

[Victor]

This is the organization essentially telling Jarry, "You are neither part of our long-term or short-term plans". This move allows the goalies that the organization cares about to have playing time while the NHL rests during the 4-nations break. Imagine being moved down to the AHL to only be recalled when the NHL is on break so that the "real goalies that matter" get ice time. It has to suck. But this is the situation he finds himself in.

"Honestly, I think Jarry would be dumb to terminate his contract with the state of goaltending in the NHL. It's become like RBs in the NFL...they are a dime a dozen, and except for maybe the top 5-8 guys in the league, there isn't a major amount of variance from one guy to the next. Jarry could even slightly improve, but still have a hard time earning a job or getting paid more than 1M AAV."

Yea, I agree. There is no way a team has them play NHL games for them at the level he is playing now. His best bet would be to play well down in the AHL and hopefully a team that has an injury contacts the pens and asks for a trade. His only hope is to play himself out of the Penguins organization.

Yeah, it is a crappy situation for both parties. I can't see Jarry walking away from that kind of money when he knows he's not going to get anywhere near that on a new contract.

I also don't see another team taking him on with that existing contract either. We'll likely have to eat some of that salary or unload some assets to have someone else eat it. @ $5.375M per, it won't be cheap. I'm thinking a team would probably ask for the full 50% to be retained in order to make it palatable. That's carrying a ~$2.5M dead cap hit for the following 3 season. Good thing the cap is going up...

Comparable deal I can remember is when LA traded Petersen to Philly. It cost them a 2nd rounder, a roster player (Sean Walker) and a prospect while retaining 30% of Provorov's contract, who was on his way to Columbus. With the cap going up and the current state of this team, don't use assets to get rid of his contract. Penguins should be receiving assets to acquire bad contracts, not the other way around.

[largegarlic]

This is the organization essentially telling Jarry, "You are neither part of our long-term or short-term plans". This move allows the goalies that the organization cares about to have playing time while the NHL rests during the 4-nations break. Imagine being moved down to the AHL to only be recalled when the NHL is on break so that the "real goalies that matter" get ice time. It has to suck. But this is the situation he finds himself in.

"Honestly, I think Jarry would be dumb to terminate his contract with the state of goaltending in the NHL. It's become like RBs in the NFL...they are a dime a dozen, and except for maybe the top 5-8 guys in the league, there isn't a major amount of variance from one guy to the next. Jarry could even slightly improve, but still have a hard time earning a job or getting paid more than 1M AAV."

Yea, I agree. There is no way a team has them play NHL games for them at the level he is playing now. His best bet would be to play well down in the AHL and hopefully a team that has an injury contacts the pens and asks for a trade. His only hope is to play himself out of the Penguins organization.

Yeah, it is a crappy situation for both parties. I can't see Jarry walking away from that kind of money when he knows he's not going to get anywhere near that on a new contract.

I also don't see another team taking him on with that existing contract either. We'll likely have to eat some of that salary or unload some assets to have someone else eat it. @ $5.375M per, it won't be cheap. I'm thinking a team would probably ask for the full 50% to be retained in order to make it palatable. That's carrying a ~$2.5M dead cap hit for the following 3 season. Good thing the cap is going up...

Comparable deal I can remember is when LA traded Petersen to Philly. It cost them a 2nd rounder, a roster player (Sean Walker) and a prospect while retaining 30% of Provorov's contract, who was on his way to Columbus. With the cap going up and the current state of this team, don't use assets to get rid of his contract. Penguins should be receiving assets to acquire bad contracts, not the other way around.

Yeah, that's my take too. The salary cap won't be an issue for the Pens for the next couple seasons. There's no reason to give up assets to move Jarry. If anything, the Pens might have trouble getting to the cap floor.