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I hope it's a work. I did think though that when Roberts was getting choked that it looked pretty legit. I thought he was just selling it well though. Who knows with WWE at this point though... I wouldn't be surprised if they did fire him for something as stupid as that.
If they did can him... they just essentially killed the whole NXT "invasion" angle, which would make them 2 for 2 on butchering invasion angles.
Barrett and Danielson were the only two that made the whole invasion angle work, like Nocera said.. Barrett and a bunch of scrubs just doesn't work.
If they did can him... they just essentially killed the whole NXT "invasion" angle, which would make them 2 for 2 on butchering invasion angles.
Barrett and Danielson were the only two that made the whole invasion angle work, like Nocera said.. Barrett and a bunch of scrubs just doesn't work.
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this makes sense, but like any 'net nerd writing a column, it's all opinion
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more: http://www.lordsofpain.net/columns/Hust ... /8130.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;I'm sure you've all read the news by this point, and I'm going to go ahead and say this right here, right now..
It's a work.
It doesn't make enough sense for his "release" to be actual factual. Early reports said that some within the company felt he may have taken things too far during the NXT attack on Raw. Whether it was spitting on John Cena, choking the hell out of Justin Roberts with his own tie, or anything else that happened on Monday, why would he be released for it on Friday, especially considering the fact that Danielson worked an FCW show since then? Perhaps if Cena, Triple H, The Undertaker or someone along those lines screwed up, there might be a few days of deliberation on what to do and whether or not to punish the guy, but this isn't those guys. This is Bryan Danielson, who is only someone that appeared on the first season of NXT. If he angered people on Monday night, he would've been released on Tuesday morning, without so much as an explanation needed. Remember when they released Mr Kennedy? He was released within hours of Raw ending, and I'd say he was higher up on the company's totem pole at the time than Danielson is now. If he broke a rule that is punishable by losing his job, then that's it. It was clear as day, on camera and everything. It shouldn't take all week to figure out that he needs to be fired.
I've seen some people say that it's all a work, followed by others asking why would Danielson be the one name singled out. They asked why the company wouldn't just announce that everyone involved in the attack has been released. First and foremost, wouldn't that really indicate that it was a work? If they went ahead and posted "future endeavors" notices for all eight NXT members, that would absolutely scream out that it's all a work. As for why Danielson was being singled out specifically, this column is a good reason why, as was every last bit of discussion that took place today. It got everyone talking. Would this all be taking place if it was announced that Darren Young or Skip Sheffield was released? Of course not. Nobody would care. If you're going to work the Internet Wrestling Community, why wouldn't you single out their favorite wrestler? I don't mind Darren Young at all, but even his mama wouldn't be ranting on the internet if he was released.
The one reason that changes everything is if Danielson himself requested his release. It wouldn't make a whole lot of sense, considering the fact that he's accomplished just about everything there is to accomplish in wrestling other than being successful working for Vince McMahon, but if he wanted out, there's nothing more than can really be said. No reports anywhere are saying any of this was his decision, however, so nobody's really looking in that direction.
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I don't even know what to say about this, I really hope it's a work. I agree with the article posted above that if they did feel he went to far during the invasion and that was the premise for his release, it would've been done much sooner. The really, really stupid thing is that the incidents that are being reported as the reasons for his release (the spitting on Cena, choking out Roberts) were the incidents that really put the invasion on Raw over the top and made it seem legit. If WWE really did release him, I would expect a fan backlash similar to the one that they saw when the fired Matt Hardy after the Edge/Lita situation. Also, if he decides to jump to TNA after this, I will definitely be giving TNA a much better look than I usually do.
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Well he will haveta wait 90 days anyways before he signs with TNAsteve784 wrote:I don't even know what to say about this, I really hope it's a work. I agree with the article posted above that if they did feel he went to far during the invasion and that was the premise for his release, it would've been done much sooner. The really, really stupid thing is that the incidents that are being reported as the reasons for his release (the spitting on Cena, choking out Roberts) were the incidents that really put the invasion on Raw over the top and made it seem legit. If WWE really did release him, I would expect a fan backlash similar to the one that they saw when the fired Matt Hardy after the Edge/Lita situation. Also, if he decides to jump to TNA after this, I will definitely be giving TNA a much better look than I usually do.
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The more I'm reading, the more this appears to be real. The news was released at midnight on a Friday, when WWE typically releases news that they want read by the least amount of people. Pretty much all footage of Danielson in the angle has been edited out of subsequent replays. If this is a work, consider me fooled.
The reasoning behind his firing is the choking of Justin Roberts. After the Benoit incident, WWE banned wrestlers using ropes or other objects to choke opponents. They obviously don't want to be associated with that tragedy. But in my opinion, the firing of Danielson brought this to attention. When watching the attack, Benoit was the absolute last thing on my mind. It wasn't until I read the reasoning behind his firing that I thought, "Oh right, Benoit."
The reasoning behind his firing is the choking of Justin Roberts. After the Benoit incident, WWE banned wrestlers using ropes or other objects to choke opponents. They obviously don't want to be associated with that tragedy. But in my opinion, the firing of Danielson brought this to attention. When watching the attack, Benoit was the absolute last thing on my mind. It wasn't until I read the reasoning behind his firing that I thought, "Oh right, Benoit."
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If this is true it is one of the dumbest things I've heard in a long time. I am so sick of Linda McMahon's Senate campaign running WWE. We all knew WWE would screw this angle up somehow, I'm just stunned it happened so soon.nocera wrote:The reasoning behind his firing is the choking of Justin Roberts. After the Benoit incident, WWE banned wrestlers using ropes or other objects to choke opponents. They obviously don't want to be associated with that tragedy. But in my opinion, the firing of Danielson brought this to attention. When watching the attack, Benoit was the absolute last thing on my mind. It wasn't until I read the reasoning behind his firing that I thought, "Oh right, Benoit."
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WWE has gone so soft. I miss the Agression days.
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Yea it happened what 3-4 years ago now didnt it?nocera wrote:The more I'm reading, the more this appears to be real. The news was released at midnight on a Friday, when WWE typically releases news that they want read by the least amount of people. Pretty much all footage of Danielson in the angle has been edited out of subsequent replays. If this is a work, consider me fooled.
The reasoning behind his firing is the choking of Justin Roberts. After the Benoit incident, WWE banned wrestlers using ropes or other objects to choke opponents. They obviously don't want to be associated with that tragedy. But in my opinion, the firing of Danielson brought this to attention. When watching the attack, Benoit was the absolute last thing on my mind. It wasn't until I read the reasoning behind his firing that I thought, "Oh right, Benoit."
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Anyone know where you can watch TNA'a PPV on the internet tonight?
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Good news concerning Bryan Danielson. John Cena commented on the release on his twitter page.
I hope it's not something as lame as him returning and being like, "WWE fired Daniel Bryan. My name is Bryan Danielson."
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A WWE employee talking extensively about the release of a wrestler is something that rarely, if ever, happens. Especially when the statement is positive and basically saying he wants WWE to bring Danielson back. Since Cena tweets in character, I can see this all being a work. I don't think it's something we're going to know for sure on tomorrow's RAW, but I wouldn't be surprised now to see Danielson back in the next couple weeks.The Marine wrote:I am very upset to hear about the release of Bryan Danielson. Social networks were formed so people would have a voice and an opinion. I know you all have your own theories and whatnot. I respect that. I have never asked any of you to feel a certain way about me. but Bryan left a lasting impression on the WWE universe in a very short time, and although it came at my expense, I agree with the majority of you who are caught off guard by this choice. I know I'm not exactly appreciated by all, nor do I care to be, but I believe what I believe. I would like bryan to come back to the wwe. I would like to sign your petition to bring him back. I was taught to stand up for what I beileve in. I tried and failed, so I could Use some help. Tell me how to sign and I will. If for nothing else, to at least have a chance to have a match with him after what was done I know that seems a bit more fair. Give me a chance to have a fair match with him, and give him yet another chance to prove that he does Belong with us. Sorry for the long message, I know I am probally way out of line, I am sorry if I have offended anyone. But like me or not That is what Hustle. Loyalty. And most importantly Respect means to me.
I hope it's not something as lame as him returning and being like, "WWE fired Daniel Bryan. My name is Bryan Danielson."
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I agree that it would effectively kill the NXT "takeover" If true that would be awful that this guy after 10+ years on the circut finally makes a name for himself and gets fired for something so so stupid. Whoever it was in this thread that brought up the Daniel Bryan clips being cut, I watched the replay of RAW that was on last night at 8pm and nothing was edited, for what thats worth. By the way, is it me or are they really pushing the phrase "WWE Universe?" It seems like they make it a point to use that phrase 90 times a show and ever wrestler uses it non stop.
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Yeah I noticed that too. No doubt Vince told all the wrestlers to start using that.DudeMan2766 wrote:I agree that it would effectively kill the NXT "takeover" If true that would be awful that this guy after 10+ years on the circut finally makes a name for himself and gets fired for something so so stupid. Whoever it was in this thread that brought up the Daniel Bryan clips being cut, I watched the replay of RAW that was on last night at 8pm and nothing was edited, for what thats worth. By the way, is it me or are they really pushing the phrase "WWE Universe?" It seems like they make it a point to use that phrase 90 times a show and ever wrestler uses it non stop.
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The Daniel Bryan thing is definitely a work. He is going to come out as a hero at the end of all this.
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lol Bret Hart called it the WWF
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if they mentioned Brian Daniel/Daniel Bryan on air, then this thing isn't over with him. He'll be back.
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Virgil!!!
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He does every weekKicksave wrote:lol Bret Hart called it the WWF

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Evan Bourne annoys the hell outta me from his annoying voice and face and just cause he does some flips everyone should love him?
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I like Evan BourneSolidSnake wrote:Evan Bourne annoys the hell outta me from his annoying voice and face and just cause he does some flips everyone should love him?

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lol Jerry Lawler
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lulz at Mark Henry attempting to chase the NXTers
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That was pretty cool. Edge with the spear on Barrett the crowd went nuts lol
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Evan Bourne is awesome, hopefully he finally gets a decent push. One of the best wrestlers WWE has on their current roster.SolidSnake wrote:Evan Bourne annoys the hell outta me from his annoying voice and face and just cause he does some flips everyone should love him?
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Just cause he's a high flier? meh at best he'll be US Champion or IC but always will remain a mid-carderskullman80 wrote:Evan Bourne is awesome, hopefully he finally gets a decent push. One of the best wrestlers WWE has on their current roster.SolidSnake wrote:Evan Bourne annoys the hell outta me from his annoying voice and face and just cause he does some flips everyone should love him?