*** Car Wars Game Play Thread ***

[columbia]

EPP: Your coaching accusation was a bit bizarre.

[CBear3]

Looked into EPP the night I died. All I kept looking at was MWB's vote and figured it was one of PB or EPP. Didn't really figure it would be both. Saw MRandall as the angel night 2.

Hoped by defense of MWB would be obvious to the greens than to the reds and lost that bet.

[ExPatriatePen]

EPP: Your coaching accusation was a bit bizarre.

At that point of the game, I needed to eliminate REDS. (Later I needed to eliminate villagers and MR25) but there was a lot if discussion ( I think started by PB) that Factorial was just a dumb noob villager. I had to change that perception so that Factorial would become more of a suspect.

I never would have outted your relationship though, I hope you know that.

[MWB]

Wow, how did PB not get voted that last day phase?

[ExPatriatePen]

Looked into EPP the night I died. All I kept looking at was MWB's vote and figured it was one of PB or EPP. Didn't really figure it would be both. Saw MRandall as the angel night 2.

Hoped by defense of MWB would be obvious to the greens than to the reds and lost that bet.

But lets be clear, you never had the chance to post after you saw me right.

If you knew who I was you had an interesting "ring side" perspective as to how I played it. :)

[ExPatriatePen]

Wow, how did PB not get voted that last day phase?

I had to keep PB alive there. The only way I'd win was to kill the Angel (MR25) with a day vote. My biggest risk was that PB would see how obvious his being a RED was and use that to wonder what the hell I was up to.

[MWB]

Obviously sideline thoughts here, but yeah, PB was obviously red. It made no sense that MR wasn't the angel. EPP, I thought you were either really, really bad at the game or must have had some sort of side role since you refused to vote for PB. You played Peckey well.

[ExPatriatePen]

Obviously sideline thoughts here, but yeah, PB was obviously red. It made no sense that MR wasn't the angel. EPP, I thought you were either really, really bad at the game or must have had some sort of side role since you refused to vote for PB. You played Peckey well.

:)

[redwill]

Thanks again to everyone who played.

Roles:

seer: CBear3 - normal role, one see per night
angel: MRandall25 - normal role except that he could only protect the same person TWICE in a row

baddie: Willie Kool (Alpha)
baddie: Pavel Bure
baddie recruit: Factorial
- The baddies could recruit AND kill in the same night. That's unusual, but I figured I needed it for balance

The Stig: ExPatriatePen - all alone, had ONE automatic save and ONE night kill - would win if he was the very last person alive, or if it was just him and a single blue/green

Actions:

Night 1:
CBear3 investigates shafnutz05 (blue)
MRandall25 protects himself
Willie Kool kills ulf

Day 1:
village kills Getting To My Game

Night 2:
CBear3 investigates MRandall25 (angel)
MRandall25 protects himself
Willie Kool kills shafnutz05

Day 2:
village kills Willie Kool

Night 3:
CBear3 investigates MWB (blue)
MRandall25 protects Factorial
Pavel Bure kills Sam's Drunk Dog
Pavel Bure recruits Factorial (I considered that the protection should prevent Factorial from being recruited, but decided against it)

Day 3:
village kills MWB

Night 4:
CBear3 investigates ExPatriatePen (but dies)
MRandall25 protects ExPatriatePen
Pavel Bure kills CBear3

Day 4:
village kills Factorial

Night 5:
MRandall25 protects canaan
Pavel Bure kills columbia

Day 5:
village kills relantel

Night 6:
MRandall25 protects Pavel Bure
Pavel Bure kills canaan

Day 6:
village kills ExPatriatePen (escapes - no saves left)

Night 7:
MRandall25 protects PensHckyFan79
Pavel Bure kills PensHckyFan79 (protected)

Day 7:
village kills MRandall25

Night 8:
Pavel Bure kills PensHckyFan79
ExPatriatePen kills Pavel Bure


NOTES:
- No vigilante. Thought the game would be unbalanced with one. The Stig kinda replaced it.
- Don't know why MRandall didn't switch his vote to EPP on Day 7. That would have tied it up and resulted in no kill that day.

[redwill]

As MRandall said, this was a pretty vanilla game.

I don't think I'll do an independent again. columbia won as Rasputin and now EPP wins (with even fewer powers) as The Stig. Indpendents aren't suppose to win, yet they've won both times I put them in ...

[MRandall25]

I wasn't sure what would happen on a tie, but I just gave up at that p[oint.

I'm pretty sure I protected every evil player except WK. Should've been a vig

[redwill]

I wasn't sure what would happen on a tie, but I just gave up at that p[oint.

I said on Day 1 that ties at the deadline result in no lynch. I should have reiterated that, I guess.

[PensHckyFan79]

I wasn't sure what would happen on a tie, but I just gave up at that p[oint.

I'm pretty sure I protected every evil player except WK. Should've been a vig

Thats part of the reason I didn't vote for PB and I also thought EPP was finally cashing in all his no lie credit

[ExPatriatePen]

So I personally want to thank Redwill for running a fantastic game.

[redwill]

Last night possibilities:

- Pavel wins if he kills EPP and EPP kills Pecky
- Pavel also wins if both he and EPP kill Pecky (EPP would be out of saves and kills)
- Pecky wins if Pavel and EPP kill each other
- If Pavel kills Pecky and EPP doesn't kill, then presumably they'd kill each other the following night and everything would be laid waste

[ExPatriatePen]

Last night possibilities:

- Pavel wins if he kills EPP and EPP kills Pecky
- Pavel also wins if both he and EPP kill Pecky (EPP would be out of saves and kills)
- Pecky wins if Pavel and EPP kill each other
- If Pavel kills Pecky and EPP doesn't kill, then presumably they'd kill each other the following night and everything would be laid waste

Yeah, when I got down to having all the reds but PB killed AND all the villagers but Pecky, and the Angel, there was only one way I could win. I had to convince Pavel to join me in day killing the Angel (MR25) AND make Pavel Bure think that Pecky was a bigger threat to him than I was.

Fortunately for me, it worked out.

[Willie Kool]

MWB is a wasted vote. As rel said, he's really good for the village and WK knows it, that's why he threw him under the bus on his way out the door. It's his attempt to take a good villager out of the picture so his own (WK's) death isn't in vain.

And in a particularly fine bit of irony, you ended up making it SO much less in vain by exposing yourself here.

[Pavel Bure]

I wasn't sure if EPP had a kill and was independent or what kind of meddling was going on. Watching MRandall get PO'd was funny though.

[MRandall25]

Because I assumed EPP was doing the same thing he did in the realignment game where he almost got Juice killed because he didn't believe Juice was the angel.

[MRandall25]

I'm also sick and didn't feel like putting a lot of effort into my defense. Just all came out as **** *** *************

[Crankshaft]

Relentel invited me to play in the chat one day. Decided to follow along this game before jumping in and I have to say, I am thoroughly confused.

[columbia]

Relentel invited me to play in the chat one day. Decided to follow along this game before jumping in and I have to say, I am thoroughly confused.

Please do.

[Willie Kool]

Relentel invited me to play in the chat one day. Decided to follow along this game before jumping in and I have to say, I am thoroughly confused.

Saw you browsing the thread a few times. Don't let the confusion stop you from playing. Turns out, it's the fun part.

[MWB]

I'm also sick and didn't feel like putting a lot of effort into my defense. Just all came out as **** *** *************

You did everything you could.

[CBear3]

MWB is a wasted vote. As rel said, he's really good for the village and WK knows it, that's why he threw him under the bus on his way out the door. It's his attempt to take a good villager out of the picture so his own (WK's) death isn't in vain.

And in a particularly fine bit of irony, you ended up making it SO much less in vain by exposing yourself here.

I know, I hoped MRandall would see that and save me, but he didn't catch on.
The guys I had seen kept dying, so instead of narrowing my choices I was right back at square one. I suppose, knowing now that my suspicions were right, I should have kept my mouth shut, but at the time I was frustrated that all my sees were wasted.