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Troy Loney · Post by **Troy Loney** » Thu May 01, 2014 3:20 pm

Hearts Trump

J Hearts

Post by **relantel** » Thu May 01, 2014 4:10 pm

7 hearts

Post by **Willie Kool** » Thu May 01, 2014 4:21 pm

redwill · Post by **redwill** » Thu May 01, 2014 4:23 pm

Troy Loney · Post by **Troy Loney** » Thu May 01, 2014 4:24 pm

1-0

Ace Hearts

Post by **relantel** » Thu May 01, 2014 4:44 pm

8 hearts

Post by **Willie Kool** » Thu May 01, 2014 4:46 pm

JOKER

redwill · Post by **redwill** » Thu May 01, 2014 4:47 pm

redwill · Post by **redwill** » Thu May 01, 2014 4:52 pm

MRandall25 wrote:
I gave rel a crap-ton of spades in the widow. Why wasn't that good?

Not sure if serious ... Why would Spades be good when he bid Clubs?

MRandall25 · Post by **MRandall25** » Thu May 01, 2014 5:02 pm

redwill wrote:
MRandall25 wrote:
I gave rel a crap-ton of spades in the widow. Why wasn't that good?
Not sure if serious ... Why would Spades be good when he bid Clubs?

Because I (still) don't fully understand what's going on. You said "A lot of one suit is good".

Post by **Willie Kool** » Thu May 01, 2014 5:52 pm

2-0

6C

redwill · Post by **redwill** » Thu May 01, 2014 6:07 pm

redwill · Post by **redwill** » Thu May 01, 2014 6:24 pm

MRandall25 wrote:
redwill wrote:
MRandall25 wrote:
I gave rel a crap-ton of spades in the widow. Why wasn't that good?
Not sure if serious ... Why would Spades be good when he bid Clubs?
Because I (still) don't fully understand what's going on. You said "A lot of one suit is good".

Troy said that, not me. But the point was that a lot of the suit you bid on is good.

Say you bid Clubs. Then the widow comes and it has a lot of Spades. That means that not only are you not getting the Clubs you want, but you're also not able to get rid of any Spades or Diamonds or Hearts you have. You're not able to get void in a suit, which means you cannot use your trump (Clubs) to win tricks when your opponents have higher (non-trump) cards than you.

So let's say that after the widow you end up with, say, the 9S when Clubs is trump. If your opponents play the mediocre 10S, you have to give them that 9S and they take the trick. But if you had been able to get void in Spades, you could have trumped that 10S with the smallest of your Clubs.

The goal of the widow is to a) get as much trump as possible, AND b) get void in as many suits as possible. When a widow comes that has a lot of non-trump stuff -- especially non-trump stuff of one suit -- it's bad.

Troy Loney · Post by **Troy Loney** » Thu May 01, 2014 6:40 pm

Post by **relantel** » Thu May 01, 2014 7:49 pm

Q clubs

I'm going to be out of pocket much of the weekend including tomorrow. Troy, if you'll PM me when it's my turn I'll see the email and know to check on my phone & make a play.

2-1

J Diamonds

Post by **Willie Kool** » Thu May 01, 2014 8:41 pm

redwill · Post by **redwill** » Fri May 02, 2014 12:01 am

Troy Loney · Post by **Troy Loney** » Fri May 02, 2014 5:36 am

Post by **relantel** » Fri May 02, 2014 9:25 am

2-2

K diamonds

Post by **Willie Kool** » Fri May 02, 2014 9:40 am

redwill · Post by **redwill** » Fri May 02, 2014 11:15 am

Troy Loney · Post by **Troy Loney** » Fri May 02, 2014 11:21 am

6H

3-2

J Spades

Post by **relantel** » Fri May 02, 2014 11:34 am

4S
*thanks again for the prompting PM, TL. I appreciate it.

Post by **Willie Kool** » Fri May 02, 2014 11:49 am

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