OMG They actually did it! Jarry on waivers.

[brwi]

In addition to Jarry, Ludvig is also on waivers today.

I'd be down with Ludvig coming back, we need another righty

You'd still need a righty if you get lefty Ludvig

[EndO FanEra]

So, there is no way that Jarry will get claimed and it is very unlikely that someone will take on that full contract in a trade.

Jarry @ $2.75M (~50% retained), however, is a more reasonable contract to be able to move. If we don't want to retain ourselves, what is the going rate for a third team to eat ~$2.75M?

Would you add one of our 2nds to a third team to eat the $2.75M with Jarry going out and "future considerations" (or whatever) coming back? I don't know if that is enough compensation or too much, but I think I would consider it.

[FLPensFan]

So, there is no way that Jarry will get claimed and it is very unlikely that someone will take on that full contract in a trade.

Jarry @ $2.75M (~50% retained), however, is a more reasonable contract to be able to move. If we don't want to retain ourselves, what is the going rate for a third team to eat ~$2.75M?

Would you add one of our 2nds to a third team to eat the $2.75M with Jarry going out and "future considerations" (or whatever) coming back? I don't know if that is enough compensation or too much, but I think I would consider it.

A couple of problems with this (getting 3rd team involved):

1) It's one thing to get a team to retain 50% on a UFA to be. Jarry has 3 more years after this one. Having a team retain 50% for 3 years I'd expect would be expensive. 1st or 2nd or above average prospect.

2) In a similar vain to #1, a lot of teams area also using their other retained salary slots...so they are going to likely want premium return to use up their last spot for 3 years.

3) We'd be better off just seeing if we could do a contract dump for contract dump trade. Say, SJ acquires Jarry, with Barclay Goodrow coming to Pittsburgh. Or Calgary acquires Jarry and sends us Nazim Kadri.

Save the retain slot to where they can use it to their advantage to gain assets. With the state of this team, and the fact we should be playing a bunch of WBS guys to end the season and into next year, we should be oozing with cap space to keep Jarry buried in the AHL.

[FLPensFan]

From Taylor on DK live feed (but not word for word)

Murashov could get potentially get an AHL recall after all. Blomqvist is on his way to Pittsburgh, Larsson got start tonight for WBS and was injured. Jaxson Castor came in relief of Larsson. Castor was an ECHL goalie, but when Gauthier was healthy, Wheeling was against roster limit, so Castor was sent to AHL basically just to sit and be a practice goalie.

If I were Penguins, I'd send Castor down to ECHL to play with Gauthier, and callup Murashov to the AHL. Murashov gets the bulk of the starts or at worst 50-50 with Jarry until Larsson returns.

[BigMcK]

Let it be a lesson to future Penguins goalies, don't pick #35 for your jersey. Some guy who wore it before you may have put a curse on the #.

[Puck-Lurker]

Let it be a lesson to future Penguins goalies, don't pick #35 for your jersey. Some guy who wore it before you may have put a curse on the #.

Ty Conklin for a year

Barasso before him.

The fault is not in his predecessors for #35

[DelPen]

In addition to Jarry, Ludvig is also on waivers today.

I'd be down with Ludvig coming back, we need another righty

You'd still need a righty if you get lefty Ludvig

That’s right, but he usually plays the right side well. Still would take him over Gryz right now.

[KBone]

Is the waiver deadline 12pm or 2pm when he went on?

[KG]

Is the waiver deadline 12pm or 2pm when he went on?

2:00. Imagine if he gets claimed by a team like Chicago who could use a goalie. KD would owe them a lot of future considerations!

[Daniel]

I don't know how I feel about it, I have wanted him traded/sent down, demoted to janitor, but I also wanted him to help us get a top pick in the draft, now Blomqvist might ruin that.

Bring up Gauthier and/or Larsson and trade Ned would help get the top pick in the draft.

It seems like Murashov will be the goalie of the future and Larsson is the oldest at 26. See which one of him or Gauthier can be committed to being a long term backup and enhance the trade value of the other.

Anything can happen but the 4 best goalies in the organization are at the ECHL/AHL levels.

Essentially bring the AHL guys up to NHL and ECHL guys up to AHL? Only issue is who plays goal in Wheeling then?

Jarry and random UFA.

Notice goalies under MS are like WR under Tomlin? Do well until the head coach has a chance to coach you then implode?

[Daniel]

From Taylor on DK live feed (but not word for word)

Murashov could get potentially get an AHL recall after all. Blomqvist is on his way to Pittsburgh, Larsson got start tonight for WBS and was injured. Jaxson Castor came in relief of Larsson. Castor was an ECHL goalie, but when Gauthier was healthy, Wheeling was against roster limit, so Castor was sent to AHL basically just to sit and be a practice goalie.

If I were Penguins, I'd send Castor down to ECHL to play with Gauthier, and callup Murashov to the AHL. Murashov gets the bulk of the starts or at worst 50-50 with Jarry until Larsson returns.

Or Blomqvist/Larsson to NHL, Murashov/Gauthier to AHL, Jarry/Castor to ECHL. (stole that idea from DelPen)

[EndO FanEra]

So, there is no way that Jarry will get claimed and it is very unlikely that someone will take on that full contract in a trade.

Jarry @ $2.75M (~50% retained), however, is a more reasonable contract to be able to move. If we don't want to retain ourselves, what is the going rate for a third team to eat ~$2.75M?

Would you add one of our 2nds to a third team to eat the $2.75M with Jarry going out and "future considerations" (or whatever) coming back? I don't know if that is enough compensation or too much, but I think I would consider it.

A couple of problems with this (getting 3rd team involved):

1) It's one thing to get a team to retain 50% on a UFA to be. Jarry has 3 more years after this one. Having a team retain 50% for 3 years I'd expect would be expensive. 1st or 2nd or above average prospect.

2) In a similar vain to #1, a lot of teams area also using their other retained salary slots...so they are going to likely want premium return to use up their last spot for 3 years.

3) We'd be better off just seeing if we could do a contract dump for contract dump trade. Say, SJ acquires Jarry, with Barclay Goodrow coming to Pittsburgh. Or Calgary acquires Jarry and sends us Nazim Kadri.

Save the retain slot to where they can use it to their advantage to gain assets. With the state of this team, and the fact we should be playing a bunch of WBS guys to end the season and into next year, we should be oozing with cap space to keep Jarry buried in the AHL.

All good points, as usual.

1) Yeah, that's where it gets tough. If the cost is a 1st or a 2nd and one of our better prospects, that is pretty tough to swallow.
2) See above.
3) This is probably the most likely path if we are going to be able to dump him. I was intrigued by the Kadri idea until I looked at his contract. Yikes! But, yeah, Jarry for a serviceable bottom 6 player on a bloated contract, count me in.

With Jarry in WBS, we still have a logjam at G. Somebody still needs to go so everyone can move up a slot, and hopefully that is Jarry.

[jwest21]

From Taylor on DK live feed (but not word for word)

Murashov could get potentially get an AHL recall after all. Blomqvist is on his way to Pittsburgh, Larsson got start tonight for WBS and was injured. Jaxson Castor came in relief of Larsson. Castor was an ECHL goalie, but when Gauthier was healthy, Wheeling was against roster limit, so Castor was sent to AHL basically just to sit and be a practice goalie.

If I were Penguins, I'd send Castor down to ECHL to play with Gauthier, and callup Murashov to the AHL. Murashov gets the bulk of the starts or at worst 50-50 with Jarry until Larsson returns.

Or Blomqvist/Larsson to NHL, Murashov/Gauthier to AHL, Jarry/Castor to ECHL. (stole that idea from DelPen)

What happens to Ned in that scenario?

[FLPensFan]

So, there is no way that Jarry will get claimed and it is very unlikely that someone will take on that full contract in a trade.

Jarry @ $2.75M (~50% retained), however, is a more reasonable contract to be able to move. If we don't want to retain ourselves, what is the going rate for a third team to eat ~$2.75M?

Would you add one of our 2nds to a third team to eat the $2.75M with Jarry going out and "future considerations" (or whatever) coming back? I don't know if that is enough compensation or too much, but I think I would consider it.

A couple of problems with this (getting 3rd team involved):

1) It's one thing to get a team to retain 50% on a UFA to be. Jarry has 3 more years after this one. Having a team retain 50% for 3 years I'd expect would be expensive. 1st or 2nd or above average prospect.

2) In a similar vain to #1, a lot of teams area also using their other retained salary slots...so they are going to likely want premium return to use up their last spot for 3 years.

3) We'd be better off just seeing if we could do a contract dump for contract dump trade. Say, SJ acquires Jarry, with Barclay Goodrow coming to Pittsburgh. Or Calgary acquires Jarry and sends us Nazim Kadri.

Save the retain slot to where they can use it to their advantage to gain assets. With the state of this team, and the fact we should be playing a bunch of WBS guys to end the season and into next year, we should be oozing with cap space to keep Jarry buried in the AHL.

All good points, as usual.

1) Yeah, that's where it gets tough. If the cost is a 1st or a 2nd and one of our better prospects, that is pretty tough to swallow.
2) See above.
3) This is probably the most likely path if we are going to be able to dump him. I was intrigued by the Kadri idea until I looked at his contract. Yikes! But, yeah, Jarry for a serviceable bottom 6 player on a bloated contract, count me in.

With Jarry in WBS, we still have a logjam at G. Somebody still needs to go so everyone can move up a slot, and hopefully that is Jarry.

If Jarry ends up in WBS...I wouldn't be so sure that he gets a lot of playing time. What's the point? From everything I've heard, the organization is done with him. They gave him what they thought was considerable time to fix issues in his game. He still has the same issues, so they are moving on as best they can.

I don't think they are going to play him in WBS unless it is advantageous to the org, such as, needing someone to maybe steal some games at the AHL level. Would they let him just sit and not get any playing time??? I think they would. A bit different scenario here based on Jarry's NHL credentials, but WBS had Jaxson Castor on their roster since December 5th, and earlier this week was the first time he played. He was only there because Wheeling had too many contracts and they didn't want to lose Castor, so they signed him to an AHL PTO and stashed him in the AHL. I could see the same fate for Jarry, where he is around the team and practices with the team, but there is no reason for them to give Jarry starts over Blomqvist, Larsson, or Murashov.

Detroit has Jack Campbell stashed in the AHL for their team. He's played only 5 of their 37 games. I'd expect something similar for Jarry, where maybe he gets a start once or twice a month at best.

[Pens4Life]

Jarry goes to AHL...Nedeljkovic should be traded.. Larsson and Blomquist in NHL, Murashev to AHL

[Puck-Lurker]

Jarry goes to AHL...Nedeljkovic should be traded.. Larsson and Blomquist in NHL, Murashev to AHL

This.

[Daniel]

From Taylor on DK live feed (but not word for word)

Murashov could get potentially get an AHL recall after all. Blomqvist is on his way to Pittsburgh, Larsson got start tonight for WBS and was injured. Jaxson Castor came in relief of Larsson. Castor was an ECHL goalie, but when Gauthier was healthy, Wheeling was against roster limit, so Castor was sent to AHL basically just to sit and be a practice goalie.

If I were Penguins, I'd send Castor down to ECHL to play with Gauthier, and callup Murashov to the AHL. Murashov gets the bulk of the starts or at worst 50-50 with Jarry until Larsson returns.

Or Blomqvist/Larsson to NHL, Murashov/Gauthier to AHL, Jarry/Castor to ECHL. (stole that idea from DelPen)

What happens to Ned in that scenario?

I think he'll be traded at the deadline.

[Daniel]

So, there is no way that Jarry will get claimed and it is very unlikely that someone will take on that full contract in a trade.

Jarry @ $2.75M (~50% retained), however, is a more reasonable contract to be able to move. If we don't want to retain ourselves, what is the going rate for a third team to eat ~$2.75M?

Would you add one of our 2nds to a third team to eat the $2.75M with Jarry going out and "future considerations" (or whatever) coming back? I don't know if that is enough compensation or too much, but I think I would consider it.

A couple of problems with this (getting 3rd team involved):

1) It's one thing to get a team to retain 50% on a UFA to be. Jarry has 3 more years after this one. Having a team retain 50% for 3 years I'd expect would be expensive. 1st or 2nd or above average prospect.

2) In a similar vain to #1, a lot of teams area also using their other retained salary slots...so they are going to likely want premium return to use up their last spot for 3 years.

3) We'd be better off just seeing if we could do a contract dump for contract dump trade. Say, SJ acquires Jarry, with Barclay Goodrow coming to Pittsburgh. Or Calgary acquires Jarry and sends us Nazim Kadri.

Save the retain slot to where they can use it to their advantage to gain assets. With the state of this team, and the fact we should be playing a bunch of WBS guys to end the season and into next year, we should be oozing with cap space to keep Jarry buried in the AHL.

All good points, as usual.

1) Yeah, that's where it gets tough. If the cost is a 1st or a 2nd and one of our better prospects, that is pretty tough to swallow.
2) See above.
3) This is probably the most likely path if we are going to be able to dump him. I was intrigued by the Kadri idea until I looked at his contract. Yikes! But, yeah, Jarry for a serviceable bottom 6 player on a bloated contract, count me in.

With Jarry in WBS, we still have a logjam at G. Somebody still needs to go so everyone can move up a slot, and hopefully that is Jarry.

If Jarry ends up in WBS...I wouldn't be so sure that he gets a lot of playing time. What's the point? From everything I've heard, the organization is done with him. They gave him what they thought was considerable time to fix issues in his game. He still has the same issues, so they are moving on as best they can.

I don't think they are going to play him in WBS unless it is advantageous to the org, such as, needing someone to maybe steal some games at the AHL level. Would they let him just sit and not get any playing time??? I think they would. A bit different scenario here based on Jarry's NHL credentials, but WBS had Jaxson Castor on their roster since December 5th, and earlier this week was the first time he played. He was only there because Wheeling had too many contracts and they didn't want to lose Castor, so they signed him to an AHL PTO and stashed him in the AHL. I could see the same fate for Jarry, where he is around the team and practices with the team, but there is no reason for them to give Jarry starts over Blomqvist, Larsson, or Murashov.

Detroit has Jack Campbell stashed in the AHL for their team. He's played only 5 of their 37 games. I'd expect something similar for Jarry, where maybe he gets a start once or twice a month at best.

Do you think they buy him out after the season?

[EndO FanEra]

So, there is no way that Jarry will get claimed and it is very unlikely that someone will take on that full contract in a trade.

Jarry @ $2.75M (~50% retained), however, is a more reasonable contract to be able to move. If we don't want to retain ourselves, what is the going rate for a third team to eat ~$2.75M?

Would you add one of our 2nds to a third team to eat the $2.75M with Jarry going out and "future considerations" (or whatever) coming back? I don't know if that is enough compensation or too much, but I think I would consider it.

A couple of problems with this (getting 3rd team involved):

1) It's one thing to get a team to retain 50% on a UFA to be. Jarry has 3 more years after this one. Having a team retain 50% for 3 years I'd expect would be expensive. 1st or 2nd or above average prospect.

2) In a similar vain to #1, a lot of teams area also using their other retained salary slots...so they are going to likely want premium return to use up their last spot for 3 years.

3) We'd be better off just seeing if we could do a contract dump for contract dump trade. Say, SJ acquires Jarry, with Barclay Goodrow coming to Pittsburgh. Or Calgary acquires Jarry and sends us Nazim Kadri.

Save the retain slot to where they can use it to their advantage to gain assets. With the state of this team, and the fact we should be playing a bunch of WBS guys to end the season and into next year, we should be oozing with cap space to keep Jarry buried in the AHL.

All good points, as usual.

1) Yeah, that's where it gets tough. If the cost is a 1st or a 2nd and one of our better prospects, that is pretty tough to swallow.
2) See above.
3) This is probably the most likely path if we are going to be able to dump him. I was intrigued by the Kadri idea until I looked at his contract. Yikes! But, yeah, Jarry for a serviceable bottom 6 player on a bloated contract, count me in.

With Jarry in WBS, we still have a logjam at G. Somebody still needs to go so everyone can move up a slot, and hopefully that is Jarry.

If Jarry ends up in WBS...I wouldn't be so sure that he gets a lot of playing time. What's the point? From everything I've heard, the organization is done with him. They gave him what they thought was considerable time to fix issues in his game. He still has the same issues, so they are moving on as best they can.

I don't think they are going to play him in WBS unless it is advantageous to the org, such as, needing someone to maybe steal some games at the AHL level. Would they let him just sit and not get any playing time??? I think they would. A bit different scenario here based on Jarry's NHL credentials, but WBS had Jaxson Castor on their roster since December 5th, and earlier this week was the first time he played. He was only there because Wheeling had too many contracts and they didn't want to lose Castor, so they signed him to an AHL PTO and stashed him in the AHL. I could see the same fate for Jarry, where he is around the team and practices with the team, but there is no reason for them to give Jarry starts over Blomqvist, Larsson, or Murashov.

Detroit has Jack Campbell stashed in the AHL for their team. He's played only 5 of their 37 games. I'd expect something similar for Jarry, where maybe he gets a start once or twice a month at best.

If that is the case, I suppose that is a good thing (other than being stuck with that cap hit).

1) it gives the younger goalies more playing time
2) Jarry may be more willing to waive his NTC to a bad NHL team rather than practicing with an AHL team and not playing much.

[FLPensFan]

So, there is no way that Jarry will get claimed and it is very unlikely that someone will take on that full contract in a trade.

Jarry @ $2.75M (~50% retained), however, is a more reasonable contract to be able to move. If we don't want to retain ourselves, what is the going rate for a third team to eat ~$2.75M?

Would you add one of our 2nds to a third team to eat the $2.75M with Jarry going out and "future considerations" (or whatever) coming back? I don't know if that is enough compensation or too much, but I think I would consider it.

A couple of problems with this (getting 3rd team involved):

1) It's one thing to get a team to retain 50% on a UFA to be. Jarry has 3 more years after this one. Having a team retain 50% for 3 years I'd expect would be expensive. 1st or 2nd or above average prospect.

2) In a similar vain to #1, a lot of teams area also using their other retained salary slots...so they are going to likely want premium return to use up their last spot for 3 years.

3) We'd be better off just seeing if we could do a contract dump for contract dump trade. Say, SJ acquires Jarry, with Barclay Goodrow coming to Pittsburgh. Or Calgary acquires Jarry and sends us Nazim Kadri.

Save the retain slot to where they can use it to their advantage to gain assets. With the state of this team, and the fact we should be playing a bunch of WBS guys to end the season and into next year, we should be oozing with cap space to keep Jarry buried in the AHL.

All good points, as usual.

1) Yeah, that's where it gets tough. If the cost is a 1st or a 2nd and one of our better prospects, that is pretty tough to swallow.
2) See above.
3) This is probably the most likely path if we are going to be able to dump him. I was intrigued by the Kadri idea until I looked at his contract. Yikes! But, yeah, Jarry for a serviceable bottom 6 player on a bloated contract, count me in.

With Jarry in WBS, we still have a logjam at G. Somebody still needs to go so everyone can move up a slot, and hopefully that is Jarry.

If Jarry ends up in WBS...I wouldn't be so sure that he gets a lot of playing time. What's the point? From everything I've heard, the organization is done with him. They gave him what they thought was considerable time to fix issues in his game. He still has the same issues, so they are moving on as best they can.

I don't think they are going to play him in WBS unless it is advantageous to the org, such as, needing someone to maybe steal some games at the AHL level. Would they let him just sit and not get any playing time??? I think they would. A bit different scenario here based on Jarry's NHL credentials, but WBS had Jaxson Castor on their roster since December 5th, and earlier this week was the first time he played. He was only there because Wheeling had too many contracts and they didn't want to lose Castor, so they signed him to an AHL PTO and stashed him in the AHL. I could see the same fate for Jarry, where he is around the team and practices with the team, but there is no reason for them to give Jarry starts over Blomqvist, Larsson, or Murashov.

Detroit has Jack Campbell stashed in the AHL for their team. He's played only 5 of their 37 games. I'd expect something similar for Jarry, where maybe he gets a start once or twice a month at best.

If that is the case, I suppose that is a good thing (other than being stuck with that cap hit).

1) it gives the younger goalies more playing time
2) Jarry may be more willing to waive his NTC to a bad NHL team rather than practicing with an AHL team and not playing much.

At the moment, I get the feeling there are no takers, NTC or not. I don't think that is coming into play. I think the best possible outcome for the team moving forward would be, after they get the Petry and Smith retention spots back this summer....THEN the Penguins move Jarry with retained salary for the next 3 years.

3 years, 2.687M (if 50% is retained)....that's not a bad price for a solid backup that could give you some really strong starts. There could be a team interested this summer.

[Antonio]

"but this is the reality of the business. It’s performance-based.”

-Mike Sullivan on Jarry.

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA.

[FLPensFan]

Jarry cleared; Blomqvist recalled, Jarry to WBS.

With Larsson hurt, Jarry may see some action, but when everyone is healthy, I see zero reason to let Jarry take starts away from Larsson or Murashov (assuming he gets brought up to AHL).

[Pitts]

Damn! I was hoping there was some team out there that agreed to take him for "free."

[Crash66]

Dubas should have offered to fill the soda machines for 3 years of any team that claimed Jarry. That would have sealed the deal.

[Antonio]

Dubas should have offered to fill the soda machines for 3 years of any team that claimed Jarry. That would have sealed the deal.

If Dubas knew anything about moneyball at all, he would already have forced guys like nieto and acciari off the roster to keep them out of the lineup.