Penguins Trade Deadline: Buyers and Sellers?

[thehockeyguru]

The Pens are 11 from the bottom, you move Rakell I could see us getting into the bottom 6. That is a huge potential jump and reason enough for me to move him regardless of the return

Rakell to LA for Brandt Clarke, Tanner Jeannot (cap purposes) and a 2026 1st or 2nd
Rakell to WPG for Brad Lambert/Cole Perfetti and a 2026 1st or 2nd
Rakell to DET for Marco Kasper and a 2026 1st or 2nd
Rakell to OTT for Shane Pinto/Carter Yamenchuk and a 2026 1st or 2nd

I'd take any deal in a heartbeat similar to the ones above.

I would take any of those deals in a heartbeat

[Michael74]

Rakells value is extremely high. I doubt Pittsburgh moves him without anything less than an optimal return. We're in a very strong position in that regard. If not we have a very solid player at a low cap hit for the next few years. I'd prefer he get dealt however but only if we sell high. Win-win for us.

What's the benefit of keeping him? We aren't a playoff team let alone a contender with him. Also factor in that his value has never been higher I don't know how you keep him.

He's holding us back from sucking and I'm not a fan of that.

I 100% agree with you! I wish they'd sell! I want us to plummet as much as anyone!

[thehockeyguru]

PHN has an article out suggesting the Pens resign Beauvillier. If I had to guess I don't think he would return much. I would definitely look to resign him since he's been a good fit and is only 27.

[FLPensFan]

PHN has an article out suggesting the Pens resign Beauvillier. If I had to guess I don't think he would return much. I would definitely look to resign him since he's been a good fit and is only 27.

If there are no offers, or the best offer is a 4th or worse, I'd consider resigning him IF....IF there's no chance for him to block anyone from WBS.

[KG]

PHN has an article out suggesting the Pens resign Beauvillier. If I had to guess I don't think he would return much. I would definitely look to resign him since he's been a good fit and is only 27.

If there are no offers, or the best offer is a 4th or worse, I'd consider resigning him IF....IF there's no chance for him to block anyone from WBS.

That's my issue too. We already have Heinen as well. Do we need/want Heinen and Beauvillier taking minuets away from Koivunen, McGroarty etc. We know what Sullivan prefers to do obviously.

[Puck-Lurker]

PHN has an article out suggesting the Pens resign Beauvillier. If I had to guess I don't think he would return much. I would definitely look to resign him since he's been a good fit and is only 27.

If there are no offers, or the best offer is a 4th or worse, I'd consider resigning him IF....IF there's no chance for him to block anyone from WBS.

That's my issue too. We already have Heinen as well. Do we need/want Heinen and Beauvillier taking minuets away from Koivunen, McGroarty etc. We know what Sullivan prefers to do obviously.

Beauvillier has no value to this organization past this season. Helps block folks in WBS.

I'd be okay with resigning him, then sending him to WBS as 20th forward, but that's not how Dubas/Sullivan roll. He'd be on the roster and playing. No thanks, pass. That would be good for the right here and now and hurt the future.

Beauvillier I think you take the best offer on. Even if the return is beyond terrible, trade. If by the deadline, you can't get more than a 7th (honestly you should be able to find a taker for something), make the deal. We really don't need him, doesn't fit where this team is headed

[thehockeyguru]

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If there are no offers, or the best offer is a 4th or worse, I'd consider resigning him IF....IF there's no chance for him to block anyone from WBS.

That's my issue too. We already have Heinen as well. Do we need/want Heinen and Beauvillier taking minuets away from Koivunen, McGroarty etc. We know what Sullivan prefers to do obviously.

That's why I really want to move Rakell and Rust. Rakell will be 32 and Rust 33 the longer you hold them the lower the return.

I'd keep a 3rd line of Beauvillier Lizotte Tomasino

[Pruezy11881]

So the Pens claimed Vladislav Kolyachonok of waivers. Know nothing of him.

[FLPensFan]

So the Pens claimed Vladislav Kolyachonok of waivers. Know nothing of him.

Doing some reading, seems to be a good add. He had good numbers on a team that has horrible goaltending....so he'll fit in here.

[largegarlic]

So the Pens claimed Vladislav Kolyachonok of waivers. Know nothing of him.

Just looking the Elite Prospects report on him, he's a LD, former 2nd round pick in 2019, and has played 23 games with Utah this season. His draft year reports say that while he's not huge, he plays mean and is tough along the boards while being a good skater. One report says he could be a PP QB, but it doesn't seem like he's ever put up big numbers offensively. With the discussion of Friedman being on the move again, the scouting report kinda sounds like him. I guess it doesn't hurt to take a flyer on a youngish LD with a little pedigree.

[FLPensFan]

So the Pens claimed Vladislav Kolyachonok of waivers. Know nothing of him.

Just looking the Elite Prospects report on him, he's a LD, former 2nd round pick in 2019, and has played 23 games with Utah this season. His draft year reports say that while he's not huge, he plays mean and is tough along the boards while being a good skater. One report says he could be a PP QB, but it doesn't seem like he's ever put up big numbers offensively. With the discussion of Friedman being on the move again, the scouting report kinda sounds like him. I guess it doesn't hurt to take a flyer on a youngish LD with a little pedigree.

From what I am reading so far, he seems like one of the few young guys who isn't an offense first defenseman. He can move the puck and is quick, but he actually knows how to play relatively sound defense...whereas most younger d-men, defensive positioning often comes last.

Here's what The Athletic had to say about him in 2020, a year after his draft, while still in the FLA system (my hunch is Grzelcyk is on the move soon).

After really coming on in the second half of last season, Kolyachonok has continued to progress this year in a leading role for a much-improved Firebirds team. He’s an A-level skater who uses his mobility to close out on carriers, turn back on retrievals or join the rush. As he has grown stronger, he has also become a more dangerous threat off the rush (and from the offensive zone blue line) with his shot. There’s not a lot to dislike about Kolyachonok’s game. He doesn’t see the ice at a super high level but he’s a calculated passer who has time to develop his playmaking, already has the physical tools he needs and defends in all situations across big minutes quite well for an 18-year-old.

This seems like a really good pickup on the surface.

[Victor]

Found this comments from his draft year - he was selected in the 2nd round in 2019 by Florida, with Pittsburgh's pick acquired in the Bjugstad/McCann trade.

A speedy and very mobile two-way defenseman. Kolyachonok plays a consistent game and can be trusted in most situations. Plays the body and reads the game fairly well in his own end - EP 2019

He might have an average-build, but he plays with a mean-streak and is a volatile defender at times in one-on-one battles - Hockeyprospect.com 2019

He utilizes smart passes to the outlet and can quarterback the play - Future Considerations 2019

He is a very intense defender as well and is tough along the boards. The best part of his game though is his wheels - McKeen's Hockey 2019

[FLPensFan]

[KG]

So the Pens claimed Vladislav Kolyachonok of waivers. Know nothing of him.

Good. Saw he was on waivers. He's young, high draft pick. Definitely worth a shot. Puts us at 49/50 contracts with the Puljujarvi contract termination.

Maybe we can move on from Gryz soon now.

[thehockeyguru]

So the Pens claimed Vladislav Kolyachonok of waivers. Know nothing of him.

Good. Saw he was on waivers. He's young, high draft pick. Definitely worth a shot. Puts us at 49/50 contracts with the Puljujarvi contract termination.

Maybe we can move on from Gryz soon now.

That's exactly what I was thinking, getting a return for Grzelcyk and let this kid play

[Tico Rick]

I love Dubas' strategy of picking up young, former high picks who've struggled with their past teams. Young guys, especially defensemen, sometimes take longer to mature into solid NHLers. Even if most of them don't pan out, why not give them a try? Low risk, high potential reward.

[Victor]

Looking at Utah's depth chart and given that he was waived, he was probably their #5 LD, behind Sergachev, Cole, Maata and Valimaki. Maybe they just didn't have room for him.

[Tico Rick]

If he was their #5 defenseman, why was he waived? Unless they just wanted to give him some ice time in the minors during 4 Nations. Seems like kind of a risky thing to do though.

[Pens4Life]

I like the pick up, still young, I like defensmans who can play with an edge and are fast skaters.
Another lefty tho, this probably means end of the road for Shea,even tho I hope there is some trade in the works for Gryz.

[Victor]

If he was their #5 defenseman, why was he waived? Unless they just wanted to give him some ice time in the minors during 4 Nations. Seems like kind of a risky thing to do though.

I meant their #5 defenseman on their left side. I guess he was their #8-9 defenseman.

[Tico Rick]

If he was their #5 defenseman, why was he waived? Unless they just wanted to give him some ice time in the minors during 4 Nations. Seems like kind of a risky thing to do though.

I meant their #5 defenseman on their left side. I guess he was their #8-9 defenseman.

Got it. Let's hope the change of scenery will be good for him.

[Michael74]

Seems like a good move, free for nothing.

[Puck-Lurker]

Gotta eject more baggage soon. I will be disappointed if Dubas doesn't manage to make room at the inn.

No, letting Puljujärvi go doesn't count.

[FLPensFan]

Article from a Utah beat writer perspective, written at the end of December. Sounds like a very good pickup with little risk.

https://www.deseret.com/sports/2024/12/ ... ub-season/

[Puck-Lurker]

Article from a Utah beat writer perspective, written at the end of December. Sounds like a very good pickup with little risk.

https://www.deseret.com/sports/2024/12/ ... ub-season/

Cole praised him in that article, a lot, said he has all the tools to be really good. His coach says he works really, really hard; but hadn't been working hard the right way.

That alone is enough to get doghoused by Sullivan.