Penguins Trade Deadline: Buyers and Sellers?

[Michael74]

Just spiballin here (it's sunday and not much goin on) I was thinking of PIT-DAL.

Dallas gets: EK with 3.00 milion retained.

PIT gets: a 26 1st unprotected, Emil Hemming and Matt Dumba.

The Stars have between 3.4 mil and 4.6 mil in cap (depending if you look at Cap Wages or Puck Pedia). I prefer capwages myself.

Value wise and cap wise it should fit.

[FLPensFan]

Just spiballin here (it's sunday and not much goin on) I was thinking of PIT-DAL.

Dallas gets: EK with 3.00 milion retained.

PIT gets: a 26 1st unprotected, Emil Hemming and Matt Dumba.

The Stars have between 3.4 mil and 4.6 mil in cap (depending if you look at Cap Wages or Puck Pedia). I prefer capwages myself.

Value wise and cap wise it should fit.

It's not awful, but I think Hemming is still likely 3-4 years away from getting a sniff of the NHL. I think Dubas would want someone closer to NHL ready.

[Michael74]

Just spiballin here (it's sunday and not much goin on) I was thinking of PIT-DAL.

Dallas gets: EK with 3.00 milion retained.

PIT gets: a 26 1st unprotected, Emil Hemming and Matt Dumba.

The Stars have between 3.4 mil and 4.6 mil in cap (depending if you look at Cap Wages or Puck Pedia). I prefer capwages myself.

Value wise and cap wise it should fit.

It's not awful, but I think Hemming is still likely 3-4 years away from getting a sniff of the NHL. I think Dubas would want someone closer to NHL ready.

Blumel is having a big year in the AHL but he's 24 I believe. I'm not sure he'd fit the bill but he is much closer. Has 49 points in 46 games I believe for Texas. I'm meh on him.

We're not gonna get Stankoven or Bourque. Doubt they'd offer up Bischel either. So Hemming is the best of the rest.

[dark_forces]

Just spiballin here (it's sunday and not much goin on) I was thinking of PIT-DAL.

Dallas gets: EK with 3.00 milion retained.

PIT gets: a 26 1st unprotected, Emil Hemming and Matt Dumba.

The Stars have between 3.4 mil and 4.6 mil in cap (depending if you look at Cap Wages or Puck Pedia). I prefer capwages myself.

Value wise and cap wise it should fit.

It's not awful, but I think Hemming is still likely 3-4 years away from getting a sniff of the NHL. I think Dubas would want someone closer to NHL ready.

Blumel is having a big year in the AHL but he's 24 I believe. I'm not sure he'd fit the bill but he is much closer. Has 49 points in 46 games I believe for Texas. I'm meh on him.

We're not gonna get Stankoven or Bourque. Doubt they'd offer up Bischel either. So Hemming is the best of the rest.

Friedman, I think, mentioned that the Dallas GM has told fellow executives he's not interested in pursuing Karlsson. With Florida now out of the mix for his services, I'm wondering what teams remain who would/could realistically deal for him.
The conversation has to start with Ottawa, given his former ties and seeming connection to the city.
Next, I would say Columbus because they're looking to do more than just qualify for the playoffs—they want to do a little damage. He could make a big difference on their PP.
I'm sure there's at least another I'm not thinking about, but that's what I've concluded from what I've heard/read.

[Michael74]

Just spiballin here (it's sunday and not much goin on) I was thinking of PIT-DAL.

Dallas gets: EK with 3.00 milion retained.

PIT gets: a 26 1st unprotected, Emil Hemming and Matt Dumba.

The Stars have between 3.4 mil and 4.6 mil in cap (depending if you look at Cap Wages or Puck Pedia). I prefer capwages myself.

Value wise and cap wise it should fit.

It's not awful, but I think Hemming is still likely 3-4 years away from getting a sniff of the NHL. I think Dubas would want someone closer to NHL ready.

Blumel is having a big year in the AHL but he's 24 I believe. I'm not sure he'd fit the bill but he is much closer. Has 49 points in 46 games I believe for Texas. I'm meh on him.

We're not gonna get Stankoven or Bourque. Doubt they'd offer up Bischel either. So Hemming is the best of the rest.

Friedman, I think, mentioned that the Dallas GM has told fellow executives he's not interested in pursuing Karlsson. With Florida now out of the mix for his services, I'm wondering what teams remain who would/could realistically deal for him.
The conversation has to start with Ottawa, given his former ties and seeming connection to the city.
Next, I would say Columbus because they're looking to do more than just qualify for the playoffs—they want to do a little damage. He could make a big difference on their PP.
I'm sure there's at least another I'm not thinking about, but that's what I've concluded from what I've heard/read.

The context of what Nill said was that he couldn't afford an 11.5 mil cap hit. And he's right, but his salary is now 10 million and, that's not taking into consideration us retaining further. Which I'm sure we'd be amenable to doing. As well as take a guy like Dumba back to make the cap work and have a replacement for EK. Dallas is not gonna get many more kicks at the can. Not saying it's gonna happen, but Nill was suggesting the cap hit was the reason. Who knows.

Also, I have no idea why the Sens would want him as they're likely to miss the playoffs. I know he has an affinity for that place but I don't see that helping the Sens make the post season. That doesn't seem very practical to me.

Not sure about any other team.

[FLPensFan]

Honestly, Columbus, Detroit, Ottawa, and the Rangers should be the 4 teams in the East who are trying to make the biggest moves to improve their team. The Rangers essentially have done so already by acquiring Miller and trading away Lindgren, but still could have more up their sleeves.

I don't really see the fit of EK65 in OTT. I think they'd be better off getting a depth piece like Grzelcyk over EK65. OTT needs scoring. They are the lowest scoring team fighting for a playoff spot in the East with 166 goals. Boston is also outside and has 167. DET is at 176, NJ is at 186. The other 6 teams are at 194 or above...a sizeable gap in goals scored.

[Pens4Life]

Just spiballin here (it's sunday and not much goin on) I was thinking of PIT-DAL.

Dallas gets: EK with 3.00 milion retained.

PIT gets: a 26 1st unprotected, Emil Hemming and Matt Dumba.

The Stars have between 3.4 mil and 4.6 mil in cap (depending if you look at Cap Wages or Puck Pedia). I prefer capwages myself.

Value wise and cap wise it should fit.

Yeah, thats probably the starter package.. I agree

EK65 with 25% or up to 30% retained going to Dallas , 7M cap hit
Dumba (3.75M) and 26' 1st to Pens.. then another prospect or later pick maybe added, even if not, I would take Dumba and 26' 1st , just to get out of EK

[Michael74]

Just spiballin here (it's sunday and not much goin on) I was thinking of PIT-DAL.

Dallas gets: EK with 3.00 milion retained.

PIT gets: a 26 1st unprotected, Emil Hemming and Matt Dumba.

The Stars have between 3.4 mil and 4.6 mil in cap (depending if you look at Cap Wages or Puck Pedia). I prefer capwages myself.

Value wise and cap wise it should fit.

Yeah, thats probably the starter package.. I agree

EK65 with 25% or up to 30% retained going to Dallas , 7M cap hit
Dumba (3.75M) and 26' 1st to Pens.. then another prospect or later pick maybe added, even if not, I would take Dumba and 26' 1st , just to get out of EK

Yeah, should be an interesting week. Lets hope so.

[TexasPenguins]

Just spiballin here (it's sunday and not much goin on) I was thinking of PIT-DAL.

Dallas gets: EK with 3.00 milion retained.

PIT gets: a 26 1st unprotected, Emil Hemming and Matt Dumba.

The Stars have between 3.4 mil and 4.6 mil in cap (depending if you look at Cap Wages or Puck Pedia). I prefer capwages myself.

Value wise and cap wise it should fit.

Yeah, thats probably the starter package.. I agree

EK65 with 25% or up to 30% retained going to Dallas , 7M cap hit
Dumba (3.75M) and 26' 1st to Pens.. then another prospect or later pick maybe added, even if not, I would take Dumba and 26' 1st , just to get out of EK

Dallas’s GM has been pretty clear he has no interest in EK.
I think he’s going to be harder to trade than most of you think.
Any deal with EK will probably start with us retaining 50%.

[pfim]

Dallas’s GM has been pretty clear he has no interest in EK.
I think he’s going to be harder to trade than most of you think.
Any deal with EK will probably start with us retaining 50%.

I'm not sure why any playoff contender would want him frankly, maybe that's me being overly snarky. His game doesn't really scream "playoff difference maker" especially at 34.

[ahawk9]

Unless something shocking happens, I expect EK to finish the year out in Pittsburgh. This summer might be the best time to find a deal for him. I do think teams are going to want to overpay for Rakell this week, and I won't be surprised if he is gone by Friday. I've said before that I really like him but he's not going to be part of the future and his stock will never be higher than it is now.

[KG]

Freidman did a deadline review of every team in his most recent podcast. Couple of blurbs about the Pens:

* He mentions again that the Pens like Buffalo young players. Specifically mentions that JJ Peterka fits the Pens to a tee. He does not mention what we could offer or what Buffalo would be interested in.
* Karlsson he thinks is more likely to get done over the summer since he has a bonus to be paid along with his actual salary being minimal the last 2 years of the contract. He doesn't rule out a trade by the deadline though.
* Mentioned that he could see teams having interest in Acciari. 1 year left at $2mill with the cap going up, the contract is easy to digest. Talked about how great he was for Toronto in the playoffs etc. To me if he's mentioning Acciari by name, he must be hearing things.

He didn't really speculate about anything else. Didn't mention Rakell. Says the plan is to get young, ready to contribute NHL players.

Hoping for a fun week!

[FLPensFan]

Freidman did a deadline review of every team in his most recent podcast. Couple of blurbs about the Pens:

* He mentions again that the Pens like Buffalo young players. Specifically mentions that JJ Peterka fits the Pens to a tee. He does not mention what we could offer or what Buffalo would be interested in.
* Karlsson he thinks is more likely to get done over the summer since he has a bonus to be paid along with his actual salary being minimal the last 2 years of the contract. He doesn't rule out a trade by the deadline though.
* Mentioned that he could see teams having interest in Acciari. 1 year left at $2mill with the cap going up, the contract is easy to digest. Talked about how great he was for Toronto in the playoffs etc. To me if he's mentioning Acciari by name, he must be hearing things.

He didn't really speculate about anything else. Didn't mention Rakell. Says the plan is to get young, ready to contribute NHL players.

Hoping for a fun week!

Peterka or Kulich from Buffalo would be nice gets. Those are the types of players that are likely going to cost us a 1st and McGroarty/Koivunen. People will freak out and say no way am I giving up McGroarty. That's like saying you wouldn't give up Tomasino to get Marner. One is leaps and bounds better than the other.

Only reason I'd hate to give up McGroarty is he plays a bit of a gritty, agitator game and this team desperately needs more of those players.

[largegarlic]

Freidman did a deadline review of every team in his most recent podcast. Couple of blurbs about the Pens:

* He mentions again that the Pens like Buffalo young players. Specifically mentions that JJ Peterka fits the Pens to a tee. He does not mention what we could offer or what Buffalo would be interested in.
* Karlsson he thinks is more likely to get done over the summer since he has a bonus to be paid along with his actual salary being minimal the last 2 years of the contract. He doesn't rule out a trade by the deadline though.
* Mentioned that he could see teams having interest in Acciari. 1 year left at $2mill with the cap going up, the contract is easy to digest. Talked about how great he was for Toronto in the playoffs etc. To me if he's mentioning Acciari by name, he must be hearing things.

He didn't really speculate about anything else. Didn't mention Rakell. Says the plan is to get young, ready to contribute NHL players.

Hoping for a fun week!

I do think Acciari is a dark horse candidate to get moved. If I'm a playoff team looking to boost my bottom 6, I might rather have Acciari than Beauvillier. Even though Beauvillier is younger and scores more, I feel like he also is unnoticeable for long stretches and doesn't scream playoff warrior. Acciari is the sort of guy you can imagine having an epic PK shift where he blocks half a dozen shots and helps his team cling to a late 1-goal lead, and that might be more valuable.

[largegarlic]

Freidman did a deadline review of every team in his most recent podcast. Couple of blurbs about the Pens:

* He mentions again that the Pens like Buffalo young players. Specifically mentions that JJ Peterka fits the Pens to a tee. He does not mention what we could offer or what Buffalo would be interested in.
* Karlsson he thinks is more likely to get done over the summer since he has a bonus to be paid along with his actual salary being minimal the last 2 years of the contract. He doesn't rule out a trade by the deadline though.
* Mentioned that he could see teams having interest in Acciari. 1 year left at $2mill with the cap going up, the contract is easy to digest. Talked about how great he was for Toronto in the playoffs etc. To me if he's mentioning Acciari by name, he must be hearing things.

He didn't really speculate about anything else. Didn't mention Rakell. Says the plan is to get young, ready to contribute NHL players.

Hoping for a fun week!

Peterka or Kulich from Buffalo would be nice gets. Those are the types of players that are likely going to cost us a 1st and McGroarty/Koivunen. People will freak out and say no way am I giving up McGroarty. That's like saying you wouldn't give up Tomasino to get Marner. One is leaps and bounds better than the other.

Only reason I'd hate to give up McGroarty is he plays a bit of a gritty, agitator game and this team desperately needs more of those players.

This Pens/Sabres connection keeps coming up, so maybe there's something to it, but it still seems like a weird fit to me. I guess maybe Buffalo would be looking to shake things up, since on paper, they should be a young team on the rise, fighting for a playoff spot, but something just isn't working for them. Maybe they'd think about moving some younger guys for older guys with a track record of winning or swapping young guys for some other team's young guys. But that still seems more like a summer thing than a deadline thing.

[Cow_Master66]

Just spiballin here (it's sunday and not much goin on) I was thinking of PIT-DAL.

Dallas gets: EK with 3.00 milion retained.

PIT gets: a 26 1st unprotected, Emil Hemming and Matt Dumba.

The Stars have between 3.4 mil and 4.6 mil in cap (depending if you look at Cap Wages or Puck Pedia). I prefer capwages myself.

Value wise and cap wise it should fit.

Yeah, thats probably the starter package.. I agree

EK65 with 25% or up to 30% retained going to Dallas , 7M cap hit
Dumba (3.75M) and 26' 1st to Pens.. then another prospect or later pick maybe added, even if not, I would take Dumba and 26' 1st , just to get out of EK

Dallas’s GM has been pretty clear he has no interest in EK.
I think he’s going to be harder to trade than most of you think.
Any deal with EK will probably start with us retaining 50%.

I don't recall anyone saying EK would be easy to deal. As the saying goes, it only takes one GM though... The Sharks probably thought nobody would take him off their hands, especially not a team with another dumbass Dman, yet there we were.

[Pens4Life]

Just spiballin here (it's sunday and not much goin on) I was thinking of PIT-DAL.

Dallas gets: EK with 3.00 milion retained.

PIT gets: a 26 1st unprotected, Emil Hemming and Matt Dumba.

The Stars have between 3.4 mil and 4.6 mil in cap (depending if you look at Cap Wages or Puck Pedia). I prefer capwages myself.

Value wise and cap wise it should fit.

Yeah, thats probably the starter package.. I agree

EK65 with 25% or up to 30% retained going to Dallas , 7M cap hit
Dumba (3.75M) and 26' 1st to Pens.. then another prospect or later pick maybe added, even if not, I would take Dumba and 26' 1st , just to get out of EK

Dallas’s GM has been pretty clear he has no interest in EK.
I think he’s going to be harder to trade than most of you think.
Any deal with EK will probably start with us retaining 50%.

Retaining 50% MUST be 100% no from Pens.. 5M per year wasted for someone who aint playing for us,no just no

[FLPensFan]

Just spiballin here (it's sunday and not much goin on) I was thinking of PIT-DAL.

Dallas gets: EK with 3.00 milion retained.

PIT gets: a 26 1st unprotected, Emil Hemming and Matt Dumba.

The Stars have between 3.4 mil and 4.6 mil in cap (depending if you look at Cap Wages or Puck Pedia). I prefer capwages myself.

Value wise and cap wise it should fit.

Yeah, thats probably the starter package.. I agree

EK65 with 25% or up to 30% retained going to Dallas , 7M cap hit
Dumba (3.75M) and 26' 1st to Pens.. then another prospect or later pick maybe added, even if not, I would take Dumba and 26' 1st , just to get out of EK

Dallas’s GM has been pretty clear he has no interest in EK.
I think he’s going to be harder to trade than most of you think.
Any deal with EK will probably start with us retaining 50%.

Retaining 50% MUST be 100% no from Pens.. 5M per year wasted for someone who aint playing for us,no just no

So keep 10M on the roster who hurts our chances to win more than helps? Double-edge sword.

Pickering should be on this team next year. 1-2 of McGroarty, Koivunen, and Ponomarev should be on this team. We'll make other moves. We aren't going to be pushing for a playoff spot, so we shouldn't need to be a cap max team.

Spend the 5M to get Karlsson off the roster if the offer is right.

[ahawk9]

I agree with retaining 50 percent on EK if the return is decent. Cap isn't going to be an issue for the Pens for the foreseeable future, so two years of $5 million isn't bad, considering $2.8 million in retentions for Petry & Smith come off the books after this season. That makes that $5 retention much more palatable. It's only 2 years of it (JMFJ's $900K off the books after next season, too). Also, after next season I'm fairly certain Malkin retires ($6.1 million), so there will be money to spend if they want, or they can use the space to pick up assets as a salary "helper" in other trades.

[Pens4Life]

Its not that much bad because of cap space, but because its just bad business, 50% if there was one more year, ok.. but two more, yikes!

[dark_forces]

A TIOPS deadline update, so take it with a grain of salt.
- There's interest from multiple teams on Rakell (including Vancouver and LA, some say Edmonton should take a legit shot) but they're very divided on letting him go.
- The Pens have put a 3rd round asking price on Matt Grzelcyk. He's believed most likely to be moved.
- It's doubtful Karlsson is dealt by the deadline, and it's reported that it would be a team pulling off a hail mary type transaction.
- For Beauvillier, a 4th or 5th round pick has been the talk. (That's pretty much what I figured.)
- Apparently, moving Acciari is more realistic than we may think. Several teams were interested in signing him back in 2023, and some remain high on him. They're working through options on trading Acciari. (Though I can't imagine the compensation being much more than a 4th round pick.)
- Something we already know: 2026 picks are very coveted.

[lemieuxReturns]

I hope they are smart and sit Rakell tomorrow against the Avs.

[Pens4Life]

Freidman did a deadline review of every team in his most recent podcast. Couple of blurbs about the Pens:

* He mentions again that the Pens like Buffalo young players. Specifically mentions that JJ Peterka fits the Pens to a tee. He does not mention what we could offer or what Buffalo would be interested in.
* Karlsson he thinks is more likely to get done over the summer since he has a bonus to be paid along with his actual salary being minimal the last 2 years of the contract. He doesn't rule out a trade by the deadline though.
* Mentioned that he could see teams having interest in Acciari. 1 year left at $2mill with the cap going up, the contract is easy to digest. Talked about how great he was for Toronto in the playoffs etc. To me if he's mentioning Acciari by name, he must be hearing things.

He didn't really speculate about anything else. Didn't mention Rakell. Says the plan is to get young, ready to contribute NHL players.

Hoping for a fun week!

Peterka or Kulich from Buffalo would be nice gets. Those are the types of players that are likely going to cost us a 1st and McGroarty/Koivunen. People will freak out and say no way am I giving up McGroarty. That's like saying you wouldn't give up Tomasino to get Marner. One is leaps and bounds better than the other.

Only reason I'd hate to give up McGroarty is he plays a bit of a gritty, agitator game and this team desperately needs more of those players.

I would love to get JJ Peterka.. but why would Sabres trade him away? Also it would probably take a hefty deal.. Rangers 1st and probably someone like McGroarty yes, I hope Pens wont trade him tho.. maybe Rags pick and Ponomarev would be enough?!

[Michael74]

Islanders and Sens are losing 2-0 and 3-0 so far tonight. We need to be careful as the Isles are only three points up on us. Sabres also losing 3-0 to the Habs tonight. Not good for our draft picks with PIT-NYR.

Rags are likely gonna get in and I don't trust the Caps to beat them in the playoffs. That pick could get into the mid 20's. Let's hope not but it is possible if they find themselves. Miller has played well since he was acquired.

[thehockeyguru]

A TIOPS deadline update, so take it with a grain of salt.
- There's interest from multiple teams on Rakell (including Vancouver and LA, some say Edmonton should take a legit shot) but they're very divided on letting him go.
- The Pens have put a 3rd round asking price on Matt Grzelcyk. He's believed most likely to be moved.
- It's doubtful Karlsson is dealt by the deadline, and it's reported that it would be a team pulling off a hail mary type transaction.
- For Beauvillier, a 4th or 5th round pick has been the talk. (That's pretty much what I figured.)
- Apparently, moving Acciari is more realistic than we may think. Several teams were interested in signing him back in 2023, and some remain high on him. They're working through options on trading Acciari. (Though I can't imagine the compensation being much more than a 4th round pick.)
- Something we already know: 2026 picks are very coveted.

I said this earlier if all we are getting for Beauvillier is a 4th I'd resign him to a 2 year deal and have him play bottom 6. He is a good depth player