2024-2025 Season Random Penguins Fodder

[Daniel]

Mike Sullivan understands he is not above the speculation regarding his future that will soon also encircle several of his players.

https://triblive.com/sports/mike-sulliv ... xt-season/

I'd like to know how many NHL coaches who have missed the playoffs 3 straight years and have gone almost a decade without winning a playoff series come back for more failure.

I think 25-26 tells us a lot about how Dubas "really feels" about Sullivan. I don't think he'll be fired before or during the season. But, if he gets to next summer and a new contract extension hasn't been announced...then I could see him fired before 26-27 season and Kirk MacDonald step in. Give Sullivan one more year to figure it out, especially if Dubas gets aggressive this summer as is rumored...but also give MacDonald one more year to grow as an AHL coach. He's been great from what I have heard so far, and seen with player development.

If WBS gets to the finals or wins the Calder Cup how does that change your timeline?

[Cow_Master66]

I wonder (hope?) that Sullivan might leave on his own if there's a job opening that he likes. He's seemed so defeated and out of answers in so many press conferences and interviews this season that I can't imagine he's having much fun. He's not likely to walk away from getting paid millions per year, but if he could hop straight to a different team that might be closer to contending than the Pens, I would think that would be tempting.

It’s hard to keep making excuses for a s*** team.

[FLPensFan]

No. Don't give Sullivan another **** day. Christ there is absolutely zero he is going to show or create or invent or prove or whatever that he has not had ample time to do 1000x in the last 3500 goddamn days. They WON'T of course, but he should not be given another minute of time.

Just to clarify, I was not saying I WOULD give Sullivan another season. I think Dubas will and how next season plays out (extension or not) will be telling. I'd kick Sullivan to the curb yesterday if it was up to me.

[FLPensFan]

Mike Sullivan understands he is not above the speculation regarding his future that will soon also encircle several of his players.

https://triblive.com/sports/mike-sulliv ... xt-season/

I'd like to know how many NHL coaches who have missed the playoffs 3 straight years and have gone almost a decade without winning a playoff series come back for more failure.

I think 25-26 tells us a lot about how Dubas "really feels" about Sullivan. I don't think he'll be fired before or during the season. But, if he gets to next summer and a new contract extension hasn't been announced...then I could see him fired before 26-27 season and Kirk MacDonald step in. Give Sullivan one more year to figure it out, especially if Dubas gets aggressive this summer as is rumored...but also give MacDonald one more year to grow as an AHL coach. He's been great from what I have heard so far, and seen with player development.

If WBS gets to the finals or wins the Calder Cup how does that change your timeline?

I'd still want to see MacDonald get a 2nd year under his belt. Make him do it again. In theory, that team should be getting better year over year as more young guys start to filter in.

[FLPensFan]

I wonder (hope?) that Sullivan might leave on his own if there's a job opening that he likes. He's seemed so defeated and out of answers in so many press conferences and interviews this season that I can't imagine he's having much fun. He's not likely to walk away from getting paid millions per year, but if he could hop straight to a different team that might be closer to contending than the Pens, I would think that would be tempting.

The Rangers would still reportedly snap up Sullivan in heartbeat if he was available.

[BigMcK]

The last sacrificial lamb to go, is the biggest. He can't blame the staff for another failure of game-after-game dressing useless players in anticipation they could resort back in time to be competitive. He could have addressed in the media that he only has loser cards in his hands. Cozy up to a local beat reporter, whisper into their ear that the coach (best 2-3 coach ) is unhappy with the players that the GM employed.

Sorry, but one more year of Sullivan will hamper any attempt to right the ship. Jeez, he is not worthy of another chance.

I ask how many more years do you give the keys to your car to your child, only to have them wreck it again, until you take the keys away?

[Pens4Life]

99 out of 100 coaches would be fired by now.. just Sullivan is staying?!? Mind boggling, unreal and almost impossible to comprehend.. just give some other guy a chance for god sake?! Can it be worse??? F.... No

[Antonio]

No. Don't give Sullivan another **** day. Christ there is absolutely zero he is going to show or create or invent or prove or whatever that he has not had ample time to do 1000x in the last 3500 goddamn days. They WON'T of course, but he should not be given another minute of time.

Just to clarify, I was not saying I WOULD give Sullivan another season. I think Dubas will and how next season plays out (extension or not) will be telling. I'd kick Sullivan to the curb yesterday if it was up to me.

[Daniel]

https://triblive.com/sports/mike-sulliv ... xt-season/

I'd like to know how many NHL coaches who have missed the playoffs 3 straight years and have gone almost a decade without winning a playoff series come back for more failure.

I think 25-26 tells us a lot about how Dubas "really feels" about Sullivan. I don't think he'll be fired before or during the season. But, if he gets to next summer and a new contract extension hasn't been announced...then I could see him fired before 26-27 season and Kirk MacDonald step in. Give Sullivan one more year to figure it out, especially if Dubas gets aggressive this summer as is rumored...but also give MacDonald one more year to grow as an AHL coach. He's been great from what I have heard so far, and seen with player development.

If WBS gets to the finals or wins the Calder Cup how does that change your timeline?

I'd still want to see MacDonald get a 2nd year under his belt. Make him do it again. In theory, that team should be getting better year over year as more young guys start to filter in.

I agree but would call him up mid season to try to replicate the Bylsma/Sullivan criteria.

[KG]

Ducks just fired their head coach, Cronin.

Any news on the next Sully extension ???

[KG]

Friedman on his pod mentions that after EK’s bonus is paid out July 1st, he “only” has $11mill left on his contract to be paid out.

He said there will be several teams who would have interest in that. Knowing that EK controls where he winds up.

Friedman said the goal is to continue to get younger players who can help now. Also mentions left D as a huge hole that needs to be filled.

Nothing we didn’t know. Curious to see how EK plays out and what type of return we could get. I definitely think they should move him but they need to bring in several D men. Letang is not a top pairing guy anymore.

[KBone]

Honestly, Letang probably needs to hang them up for his health/safety but we all know how stubborn he is which means he won't.

[Ericf]

Honestly, Letang probably needs to hang them up for his health/safety but we all know how stubborn he is which means he won't.

And not just for his safety. He looks washed

[KBone]

Honestly, Letang probably needs to hang them up for his health/safety but we all know how stubborn he is which means he won't.

And not just for his safety. He looks washed

He'll say it was because of the hole in his heart.

[KG]

Ducks just fired their head coach, Cronin.

Any news on the next Sully extension ???

And the Rangers just canned Laviolette. Drury would do anything to get his hands on Sully. Too bad we can’t trade coaches anymore.

[Ericf]

Just fire Sullivan. He won’t be out of a job long and FSG won’t lose any money

[Puck-Lurker]

Ducks just fired their head coach, Cronin.

Any news on the next Sully extension ???

And the Rangers just canned Laviolette. Drury would do anything to get his hands on Sully. Too bad we can’t trade coaches anymore.

Sullivan with an informal deal in place to go to NYR should he get fired.
To NYR: RFA Rights to Raivis Ansons (future considerations would be too much on the nose)
To PIT: 2nd
Sullivan fired.
Sullivan hired by NYR.

Shenanigans to be sure, but I'm sure the NHL couldn't be bothered with it in this kind of hypothetical.


Or just straight up fire him. Grow a pair Kyle

[KG]

Ducks just fired their head coach, Cronin.

Any news on the next Sully extension ???

And the Rangers just canned Laviolette. Drury would do anything to get his hands on Sully. Too bad we can’t trade coaches anymore.

Sullivan with an informal deal in place to go to NYR should he get fired.
To NYR: RFA Rights to Raivis Ansons (future considerations would be too much on the nose)
To PIT: 2nd
Sullivan fired.
Sullivan hired by NYR.

Shenanigans to be sure, but I'm sure the NHL couldn't be bothered with it in this kind of hypothetical.


Or just straight up fire him. Grow a pair Kyle

Or Drury quietly gives KD his choice of this years 1st round pick or next seasons.

[Pens4Life]

Friedman on his pod mentions that after EK’s bonus is paid out July 1st, he “only” has $11mill left on his contract to be paid out.

He said there will be several teams who would have interest in that. Knowing that EK controls where he winds up.

Friedman said the goal is to continue to get younger players who can help now. Also mentions left D as a huge hole that needs to be filled.

Nothing we didn’t know. Curious to see how EK plays out and what type of return we could get. I definitely think they should move him but they need to bring in several D men. Letang is not a top pairing guy anymore.

Also EK mentioned he wants to play for contender.. Dubas needs to reshape the defense big time this offseason. Trading EK65 with 3M retention is very duable I think, you can get almost two D for that money. If EK65 is gone, I wouldn't mind Gryz to be back on another 1yr deal for PP job. Important would be also to get new 1st pair RHD ,so Letang can be on 2nd pair. Doesnt need to be elite defensman,but steady stay at home D vet player.

I wonder if we could ship out EK back to Ottawa,as they will have cap space (Giroux contract ends) and get back young promising Tyler Kleven 6'5 LHD who is RFA (sign and trade needed).. there of course some other piece or draft pick would need to be included.

[Antonio]

I would bet money that EK puts up more points next season than he has in any of his seasons here if he gets moved.

[KG]

Man do I miss playoff hockey. I think there’s been more hits in the Blues Jets first period than the Pens had all season.

[Zalapski33]

Man do I miss playoff hockey. I think there’s been more hits in the Blues Jets first period than the Pens had all season.

So True.The Intensity,Tempo and Competition from these Teams are at a Level this current Penguin Group is no where close to.

3 Consecutive Springs being Spectators should fiercely drive the motivation to get this corrected.2nd Longest Time Span without a Playoff Series Victory in the History of this Franchise.

[pens_CT]

I would bet money that EK puts up more points next season than he has in any of his seasons here if he gets moved.

He might put up more points but he's a defensive liability regardless. Was the same player going back to his Ottawa days.

[FLPensFan]

Brunicke gonna be a fan favorite if he makes the NHL roster next year:

[KG]

Dallas has the worst camera angles for their games. You see the crowd as much as you see the ice. Been a bit of a dud game too.