ISIS Crisis

[Troy Loney]

I think we need John Steigerwald to weigh in on this, along with his adults wearing sports jerseys, people with tatoos, celebrating without reaching the top accomplishment, and everything else old men hate.

This would be a prime steigerwald talking point if he was still doing his talk radio show.

[columbia]

I think we need John Steigerwald to weigh in on this, along with his adults wearing sports jerseys, people with tatoos, celebrating without reaching the top accomplishment, and everything else old men hate.

This would be a prime steigerwald talking point if he was still doing his talk radio show.

I believe that he is on the Trib Radio interwebz thing.

[DontToewsMeBro]

This whole salute thing is about on par with Hannity bashing Obama for using dijon mustard on his hamburger instead of yellow like the peasants.

[DelPen]

Muslim who tried to get poeple at his former work in OK beheaded one woamn and was trying to go for another before he was shot by a worker. ISIS related? Maybe, they did just ask Muslims everywhere to take up their cause. A french citizen was kidnapped in Algeria and murdered earlier this week after they made that statement.

https://news.yahoo.com/police-woman-beh ... 59291.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[Troy Loney]

I think we need John Steigerwald to weigh in on this, along with his adults wearing sports jerseys, people with tatoos, celebrating without reaching the top accomplishment, and everything else old men hate.

This would be a prime steigerwald talking point if he was still doing his talk radio show.

I believe that he is on the Trib Radio interwebz thing.

he used to be a ranting lunatic on AM 1020. Isn't he just doing sports for the Trib?

[Troy Loney]

Muslim who tried to get poeple at his former work in OK beheaded one woamn and was trying to go for another before he was shot by a worker. ISIS related? Maybe, they did just ask Muslims everywhere to take up their cause. A french citizen was kidnapped in Algeria and murdered earlier this week after they made that statement.

https://news.yahoo.com/police-woman-beh ... 59291.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

There have been several instances, I think in Australia and Britain. It's pretty scary and if this is actually going to be the response from individual muslims, it's going to take a serious stance by the global muslim leadership against these terrorists among their brethren.

[Factorial]

Muslim who tried to get poeple at his former work in OK beheaded one woamn and was trying to go for another before he was shot by a worker. ISIS related? Maybe, they did just ask Muslims everywhere to take up their cause. A french citizen was kidnapped in Algeria and murdered earlier this week after they made that statement.

https://news.yahoo.com/police-woman-beh ... 59291.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Oklahoma Department of Corrections records show the suspect has multiple, apparently religious tattoos, including one referencing Jesus and one in Arabic that means "peace be with you."

[Kaizer]

Its definitely IR video, and didnt come from the raptor

Yeah, the image is too stable..... drone platform?

It could be from a piloted aircraft, just not the one doing the shooting. Its normal for a drone or follow attacker to be in an offset orbit during a strike, and the heat details are too obvious. Either a drone or an F-18 with a lightning pod would be my guess. Hornet pilots are superhuman with how they can fly and use the camera controls at the same time.

[newarenanow]

I think we need John Steigerwald to weigh in on this, along with his adults wearing sports jerseys, people with tatoos, celebrating without reaching the top accomplishment, and everything else old men hate.

This would be a prime steigerwald talking point if he was still doing his talk radio show.

I believe that he is on the Trib Radio interwebz thing.

he used to be a ranting lunatic on AM 1020. Isn't he just doing sports for the Trib?

I believe so, but he rants on Twitter and hates everything.

[tifosi77]

Its definitely IR video, and didnt come from the raptor

Yeah, the image is too stable..... drone platform?

It could be from a piloted aircraft, just not the one doing the shooting. Its normal for a drone or follow attacker to be in an offset orbit during a strike, and the heat details are too obvious. Either a drone or an F-18 with a lightning pod would be my guess. Hornet pilots are superhuman with how they can fly and use the camera controls at the same time.

Perhaps it's the WSO in a Foxtrot Hornet?

[shafnutz05]

Muslim who tried to get poeple at his former work in OK beheaded one woamn and was trying to go for another before he was shot by a worker. ISIS related? Maybe, they did just ask Muslims everywhere to take up their cause. A french citizen was kidnapped in Algeria and murdered earlier this week after they made that statement.

https://news.yahoo.com/police-woman-beh ... 59291.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

There have been several instances, I think in Australia and Britain. It's pretty scary and if this is actually going to be the response from individual muslims, it's going to take a serious stance by the global muslim leadership against these terrorists among their brethren.

I think this is one overlooked aspect of Islamic extremism. There's always talk about terror groups, splinter cells, etc. But there are also a lot of individuals who may not be directly linked to these types of groups but still espouse the same values. In some ways, these people are more dangerous than the more notable groups, because it becomes far harder to predict or identify their intentions through surveillance.

[Ad@m]

Here we go again, another beheading

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wir ... g-25952064

[DontToewsMeBro]

These things are just going to desensitize the country. The shock value riles everyone up at first but they're going to have to keep escalating their fear mongering to get the same reaction.

[eddysnake]

Disturbing new photos of ethnic Kurds killed by Islamic State fighters are stoking fears the terrorist army may be using chemical weapons seized from Saddam Hussein’s old arsenals, according to a Middle East watchdog.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/10/13 ... ys-report/

if they are using chemical weapons now, do we put soldiers on the ground?

[CBear3]

Wait, I thought we scoured the country looking for weapons of mass destruction and there wasn't any to be found.
They can't have Saddam's name on them.

[PensFanInDC]

Wait, I thought we scoured the country looking for weapons of mass destruction and there wasn't any to be found.
They can't have Saddam's name on them.

Well we did give plenty of time and warning to move said weapons to, say, Syria...

[newarenanow]

They are selling the women for sex slaves too and advertising it.

And didn't some politician say ISIS almost got close enough to attack the Bagdhad airport?

Thanks Obama.

[PensFanInDC]

I don't want ground troops to fight ISIS. I do, however, think it is necessary.

[columbia]

if they are using chemical weapons now, do we put soldiers on the ground?

To me, the question is always pretty easy to answer: would *I* be willing to go?

[PensFanInDC]

if they are using chemical weapons now, do we put soldiers on the ground?

To me, the question is always pretty easy to answer: would *I* be willing to go?

That's exactly how I am looking at it, and yes, I would be willing to go. Willing doesn't mean I am running to a recruitment center right now, but if a draft was in place and my number got called I would go.

[shafnutz05]

but if a draft was in place and my number got called I would go.

So you would go if you were mandated by federal law to do so? Doesn't exactly sound like a ringing endorsement

[eddysnake]

I'm thankful there are probably thousands that do want to go, because I myself do not. I do however look forward to cheering those that do on.

[PensFanInDC]

but if a draft was in place and my number got called I would go.

So you would go if you were mandated by federal law to do so? Doesn't exactly sound like a ringing endorsement

Why not? I am willing to go. It doesn't mean I have to volunteer to do so. Like eddy said there are plenty who will volunteer so that people like I do not have to. If called upon to do the duty (heheheh duty) then I wouldn't hesitate.

There is a difference between willing to go and wanting to go. I don't want to, but I would.

[Troy Loney]

The volunteer force seems really thin these days and the same people are doing tours over and over again. If you feel reassured by the size/willingness of the volunteer force...then that's some false reasoning.

[eddysnake]

The volunteer force seems really thin these days and the same people are doing tours over and over again. If you feel reassured by the size/willingness of the volunteer force...then that's some false reasoning.

I don't feel reassured by any of this mess. no matter what the numbers, I am thankful. That is all.