NBA

[canaan]

Welcome back to Cleveland, Bronbron... have a loss to the Knicks.

Its bad when I don't know half of the Knicks players and yet they still beat the Cavs

You don't know half the knicks because you don't watch basketball and act like you do?

[MalkinIsMyHomeboy]

Welcome back to Cleveland, Bronbron... have a loss to the Knicks.

Its bad when I don't know half of the Knicks players and yet they still beat the Cavs

You don't know half the knicks because you don't watch basketball and act like you do?

why do you have so much sand in your vagina?

[shmenguin]

it's ok to not post in some threads. no one will judge you.

[MalkinIsMyHomeboy]

why does it make sense for me to pretend to like basketball? there's literally no reason


but no, you guys are right.

[canaan]

you guys are right.

so its settled then.

[MalkinIsMyHomeboy]

yeah, you guys are right. Monta Ellis is a good player, my bad.

[Dickie Dunn]

My NBA interest extends no further than checking box scores to see how former Pitt players are doing. I saw this morning that Aaron Gray was waived by the Pistons earlier in the week after missing training camp and the preseason after suffering a "cardiac event". Hope the big guy is doing alright.

[ulf]

How can you say Monta Ellis isn't good

[MalkinIsMyHomeboy]

he's never played defense in his life, he's a ballhog and he can't shoot 3s.

he had an above-average year last year (in terms of offense...he was still bad defensively). much more of a outlier than his status quo.

[ulf]

Last year wasn't even his best year. He's been pretty consistently good for 8 years

[canaan]

Monta is a solid 3pt shooter after the break. His top of the key shooting isn't selective and suffers because of it. I've seen the Jason Terry parallels a couple of times re: Being in a bad situation and Dirk/Dallas organization being a reset button. Carlisle got Ellis to attack the net more frequently and he is dangerous when he does. This opens the pick and roll to dirk (and will to Parsons with time). He's also not relied on his midrange jumpers to be successful. He's become more versatile. He came from a crumb bum situation that was just dysfunctional. He's got people to play with. He's got a fresh perspective. He's got skill.

He's not a complete player. Most players, outside of the elite, aren't. That doesn't mean he's not good.

[shafnutz05]

Derrick Rose could be a great player, but the dude is made of porcelain. Out again.

[count2infinity]

Derrick Rose could be a great player, but the dude is made of porcelain. Out again.

Who is worse with injuries? Him or Beau Bennett?

[shafnutz05]

Sixers are down 39 to the Mavericks, on their way to 0-8.

They were down 73-29 at the half

[MalkinIsMyHomeboy]

Also, Kobe passing Havlicek for the most misses in NBA history. In the same vein as Favre, volume doesn't make you a great player. A lot of points means nothing when you have a lot of misses.

[Letang Is The Truth]

Also, Kobe passing Havlicek for the most misses in NBA history. In the same vein as Favre, volume doesn't make you a great player. A lot of points means nothing when you have a lot of misses.

so are you saying kobe isnt great??

[ulf]

Rose pulled hammy. Out 2-3 years

[SolidSnake]

Rose pulled hammy. Out 2-3 years

Dude is worst than Bennett

[slappybrown]

Also, Kobe passing Havlicek for the most misses in NBA history. In the same vein as Favre, volume doesn't make you a great player. A lot of points means nothing when you have a lot of misses.

so are you saying kobe isnt great??

Yea, not sure what MIMH is getting at here.

[MalkinIsMyHomeboy]

I think he's great, but I think he's slightly overrated when taking about all-time players. A lot of people peg him as the second greatest SG in history (behind you know who) and I'm just pretty hesitant to put him there.

To be honest, I just have an irrational dislike for him. I've never liked this game (chuck everything up, play opportunistic defense) so I'm biased against him. I'd rather take a super efficient Reggie Miller even though Miller isn't as good as a creator as Kobe. It's the same reason I called Monte Ellis a bad player before; I just hate their play style.

[Letang Is The Truth]

obvious troll is obvious

[JS©]

Derrick Rose could be a great player, but the dude is made of porcelain. Out again.

Who is worse with injuries? Him or Beau Bennett?

Rose. At least Bennett makes an attempt at playing through injuries.

[slappybrown]

I think he's great, but I think he's slightly overrated when taking about all-time players. A lot of people peg him as the second greatest SG in history (behind you know who) and I'm just pretty hesitant to put him there.

To be honest, I just have an irrational dislike for him. I've never liked this game (chuck everything up, play opportunistic defense) so I'm biased against him. I'd rather take a super efficient Reggie Miller even though Miller isn't as good as a creator as Kobe. It's the same reason I called Monte Ellis a bad player before; I just hate their play style.

Comparing Bryant and Ellis defensively is lulz.

Reggie Miller over Kobe? okay.png

[shmenguin]

"efficient"...read as "doesn't do anything but wait for someone to give him the ball in a shooting position".

[Letang Is The Truth]

looking at PER - efficiency rating

kobe is 19th all time at 23.35. reggie is ::scrolls down:: ::scrolls down more:: 116th at 18.3

'recent' notable SGs above reggie:

jordan 27.91 (lebron is 27.76 fyi)
d wade 25.28
tracy mcgrady 22.13
manu ginobli 21.42
clyde drexler 21.09
allen iverson (if you cant him as SG) 20.92
vince carter 20.00
ray allen 18.56

close behind, my main man mitch richmond 17.59