Penguins and Oilers reach player loan agreement

Post by **Admin** » Fri Sep 01, 2006 3:17 pm

The Pittsburgh Penguins have reached a player loan agreement with the Edmonton Oilers, it was announced today by Assistant General Manager Chuck Fletcher.

The Penguins and Oilers have entered into a one-year agreement for the 2006-07 season that enables the Oilers to send a limited number of players to the Penguins American Hockey League affiliate, the Wilkes-Barre/Scranton Penguins.

Post by **Ron`** » Fri Sep 01, 2006 5:22 pm

No link? How many lol I want to see a certain kid play here

HockeyDaddy · Post by **HockeyDaddy** » Fri Sep 01, 2006 8:24 pm

http://www.pittsburghpenguins.com/team/ ... 1989.0.php

Am I the only one that does not understand this? Why would Edmonton allow thier prospects to play for a rival team...and why would the Penguins give roster spots to guys that are not in their organization? I assume that big club will not be able to call up these players to the NHL...right? And if the big club to did have access to these players...why in the world would Edmonton want this?

roast · Post by **roast** » Fri Sep 01, 2006 8:51 pm

Some teams do this if they can't get an AHL franchise with them for the upcoming season. The pens are in a good position since they actually own the WBS pens, I believe. THe pens can not call up the oilers picks. I would expect to see the oilers elite players there and maybe the rest with another AHL club or the majority of the rest in the ECHL / europe

Sigwolf · Post by **Sigwolf** » Fri Sep 01, 2006 9:58 pm

roast wrote:
I would expect to see the oilers elite players there and maybe the rest with another AHL club or the majority of the rest in the ECHL / europe

There is no reason to expect any particular caliber of players to be assigned to Wilkes-Barre. The deal with Edmonton is only one of *five* AHL affiliates the Oilers will have this year, also including Grand Rapids, Hamilton, Iowa, and Milwaukee.

Wilkes-Barre will only see a few players from this deal, and not necessarily anyone special.

Tico Rick · Post by **Tico Rick** » Fri Sep 01, 2006 10:06 pm

The Penguns were in the Oilers shoes a number of years back, when they had their players on an AHL team owned by another NHL team. (It may have been Cleveland, but a can't really remember.) The downside of this is that the AHL club tends to play the players owned by their NHL owners, rather than the players on loan from the other club, thus limiting their development.

Sigwolf · Post by **Sigwolf** » Fri Sep 01, 2006 10:44 pm

Tico Rick wrote:
The Penguns were in the Oilers shoes a number of years back, when they had their players on an AHL team owned by another NHL team. (It may have been Cleveland, but a can't really remember.) The downside of this is that the AHL club tends to play the players owned by their NHL owners, rather than the players on loan from the other club, thus limiting their development.

Not exactly... the Pens primary IHL affiliate was the Muskegon Lumberjacks, which relocated to Cleveland in '92. They remained the Pens primary IHL affiliate for several years before the geniuses that ran the Lumberjacks decided they would would be much better off without that pesky parent club and decided they wanted to be independent. In their first year as an independent club, I believe the Pens kept a few players there, but that was about it. Cleveland lasted maybe a year or two as an independent before they figured out it wasn't such a bright idea not to have the backing of an NHL club, and quickly formed a new affiliation with an NHL team, I believe it was the Lightning. By that time the Pens players were gone. That didn't last long, and Cleveland then affiliated with the Sharks. When the IHL folded, Cleveland just rolled the team into the AHL, renaming them the Barons and kept the San Jose affiliation.

This is all from memory, though, so I can't guarantee all the details...

Post by **netwolf** » Sat Sep 02, 2006 1:24 am

In 1997-98 and 98-99, the Pens had prospects playing for the Syracuse Crunch, who were the primary affiliate of Vancouver.

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/team ... hp?tid=508
If you look are the rosters for the two seasons I mentioned, You'll see a bunch of former Penguin prospects.

Depending on who the Oilers send, this can benefit Pens prospects as well, especially if you subscribe to the "playing with better players makes you better" theory. For example, Johathan Filewich could end up having Rob Schremp or Marc-Antoine Pouliot as his center.