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Re: Penguins want Jagr back?!

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relantel wrote:
that SN article quotes Jagr's agent... appears to be same agent as Crosby, unless there are two Pat Brisson's... :pop:
Jagr has the same North American agent as Crosby and Malkin.
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Re: Penguins want Jagr back?!

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Jagr is being very smart right now. It seems likely he'll return to the K, but by causing a little stir about a possible return, he's going to probably create a SLIGHT bidding war. For as much as some people on here might want to knock him on the fact he's aging and lost his step, etc.., he still put up 25 goals and 71 points his last season in the NHL. Of course he's not the same player and he has lost a step and edge to his game, but I personally feel that he could definitely have a 20 to 25 goal/50+ point season. I don't think he'll put up 70 points or anything like that, but I'd welcome him at the right price.

To me, and some will probably flame me for this, but I'd go $2M for one season on Jagr. I just for some reason don't think he really wants to come back to the Pens. I feel like it's just media fluff to stir up interest in him by other teams. The rumor that makes the most sense to me is Montreal.
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Re: Penguins want Jagr back?!

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Hugo Stiglitz wrote:

To me, and some will probably flame me for this, but I'd go $2M for one season on Jagr. I just for some reason don't think he really wants to come back to the Pens. I feel like it's just media fluff to stir up interest in him by other teams. The rumor that makes the most sense to me is Montreal.
If someone is going to flame you for that, they aren't living in reality. We paid $3.5m for hoping Satan still had something left in him. I bet someone like NYR or MTL would offer quite a bit more than that. Realistically, he'll be offered over $3m+ per season if he's expected to be a 2nd liner.

The real question is whether he is serious or not at playing in the NHL because he'd be taking a significant pay cut to come to the NHL but might be able to make some of it up in endorsements.
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Re: Penguins want Jagr back?!

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Bob McKenzie wrote:
but might be able to make some of it up in endorsements.
He could take Talbot's place in those chicka-chicka car commercials. :pop:
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columbia wrote:
Bob McKenzie wrote:
but might be able to make some of it up in endorsements.
He could take Talbot's place in those chicka-chicka car commercials. :pop:
Well, he already has the superstar status for it.
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Re: Penguins want Jagr back?!

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Jaro is playing the field..............wants to play in Montreal with his best buddy Plecknac, best centers here, owes Mario, always the Rangers $$$................probably end up in St. Petersburg.
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Re: Penguins want Jagr back?!

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I love Jags but I feel like every year this comes up we just end up getting punk'd by him. :thumbdown:
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Re: Penguins want Jagr back?!

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littlemoonboot wrote:
I love Jags but I feel like every year this comes up we just end up getting punk'd by him. :thumbdown:
I think this is the first year he was an actual free agent though (other than the year he went to Russia).
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Re: Penguins want Jagr back?!

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Who do you think he would play with? Malkin or Crosby? I know that he probably wont be coming back to Pittsburgh, however hypothetically I think he'd be a better fit with Crosby. Move Neal to 2nd

Kunitz-Crosby-Jagr
Neal-Malkin-Staal or TK or UFA
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Cervenka-Crosby-Jagr
Klepis-Malkin-Cervenka

Kunitz & Neal will be bought out this summer.
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tonysoprano wrote:
Dostoevsky wrote:
Penspal wrote:
He wore 68 in memory of the Czech people being over run by the communists in 1968, but runs off to play for big $$$ in Russia.
Quite a difference, if you ask me.
Indeed. Should I refuse work in Japan for what they did at Pearl Harbor?
Are you arguing that Jagr is not a hypocrite? And do you wear a number 1942 on your back? About Japan, I hope you accept that offer ;). Peeks over shoulder, looking for a mob hit from the Soprano team.
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Re: Penguins want Jagr back?!

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I like Jagr, but I can do without his drama, mood swings and 'acting out' on the ice. I don't think he'd fit in with the current Pens.
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Re: Penguins want Jagr back?!

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I like Jagr, but I can do without his drama, mood swings and 'acting out' on the ice
If his actions in NYC, Omsk, and International play w/Czech Rep. are any indication he left that behavior in DC.
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Why Not Us wrote:
I like Jagr, but I can do without his drama, mood swings and 'acting out' on the ice
If his actions in NYC, Omsk, and International play w/Czech Rep. are any indication he left that behavior in DC.
Many Rangers fans disagree. His time there was very up and down, including a rumor that he tanked his final season to miss performance targets that would have automatically added another year to his contract - enabling him to sign a lucrative, tax-free deal with Omsk that was a distraction all season.
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Re: Penguins want Jagr back?!

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Desiato wrote:
Why Not Us wrote:
I like Jagr, but I can do without his drama, mood swings and 'acting out' on the ice
If his actions in NYC, Omsk, and International play w/Czech Rep. are any indication he left that behavior in DC.
Many Rangers fans disagree. His time there was very up and down, including a rumor that he tanked his final season to miss performance targets that would have automatically added another year to his contract - enabling him to sign a lucrative, tax-free deal with Omsk that was a distraction all season.
While forgetting he was named Captain (which speaheaded NYR back into the post-season), took a rookie into his home (Petr Prucha), and saw his best offensive numbers since leaving Pittsburgh (his 123 points in 05/06 were the 3rd best in his career).
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Re: Penguins want Jagr back?!

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I hope Jagr signs an unbreakable lifelong contract in the KHL with a clause that he can only return to the NHL if the league collapses and even then not to the Penguins. Only then can we go an off season without suggesting that this washed up old Kit Kat Monster return to Pittsburgh for anything other than a golf event or picking up some old Czech playboys from his South Hills home.
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Re: Penguins want Jagr back?!

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Why Not Us wrote:
Desiato wrote:

Many Rangers fans disagree. His time there was very up and down, including a rumor that he tanked his final season to miss performance targets that would have automatically added another year to his contract - enabling him to sign a lucrative, tax-free deal with Omsk that was a distraction all season.
While forgetting he was named Captain (which speaheaded NYR back into the post-season), took a rookie into his home (Petr Prucha), and saw his best offensive numbers since leaving Pittsburgh (his 123 points in 05/06 were the 3rd best in his career).
I bet hundreds of players had one of their best offensive years in 05/06. Regardless, his final season left a really bad taste in the mouths of a good number of Rangers fans, and I don't blame them.

If the Pens weren't expected to contend, I'd support signing him for the feel-good moments. But I wouldn't risk the team chemistry of a contender. Too little to gain, too much to lose.
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Re: Penguins want Jagr back?!

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Corvidae wrote:
I hope Jagr signs an unbreakable lifelong contract in the KHL with a clause that he can only return to the NHL if the league collapses and even then not to the Penguins. Only then can we go an off season without suggesting that this washed up old Kit Kat Monster return to Pittsburgh for anything other than a golf event or picking up some old Czech playboys from his South Hills home.
Great, now I have to go to the vending machine and get a Kit Kat.
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Re: Penguins want Jagr back?!

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newarenanow wrote:
Corvidae wrote:
I hope Jagr signs an unbreakable lifelong contract in the KHL with a clause that he can only return to the NHL if the league collapses and even then not to the Penguins. Only then can we go an off season without suggesting that this washed up old Kit Kat Monster return to Pittsburgh for anything other than a golf event or picking up some old Czech playboys from his South Hills home.
Great, now I have to go to the vending machine and get a Kit Kat.
I read they're like collectibles in Japan.
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Re: Penguins want Jagr back?!

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Shero says there have been no discussionsn within the Pens to bring Jagr back.
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Re: Penguins want Jagr back?!

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Who would win in a fight? Ja-gers Mullet or Racchi's rug?
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Re: Penguins want Jagr back?!

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newarenanow wrote:
http://www.postgazette.com/pg/11137/1147183-100.stm

Shero says there have been no discussionsn within the Pens to bring Jagr back.
Shocking! 8-)
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Re: Penguins want Jagr back?!

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Desiato wrote:
Why Not Us wrote:
I like Jagr, but I can do without his drama, mood swings and 'acting out' on the ice
If his actions in NYC, Omsk, and International play w/Czech Rep. are any indication he left that behavior in DC.
Many Rangers fans disagree. His time there was very up and down, including a rumor that he tanked his final season to miss performance targets that would have automatically added another year to his contract - enabling him to sign a lucrative, tax-free deal with Omsk that was a distraction all season.
Many Rangers fans?

I watched every game Jagr played for the Rangers and his effort was there all the time. Had he played with a goal scorer like Stamkos he would have had 80-90 assist every year, easily. It was insane how many chances he set up that were missed.

Too me it was rather the opposite, Jagr got off to a slow start and wanted to reach the goals what would extend his contract badly, and then he could not put up with the pressure in the end. Jagr did much the Rangers and then got a real **** offer. Jagr wanted to come back for like 2 x years at 4-5 million a year, which would have been very fair, but sather only wanted to do one year deals etc.

And Jagrs 2005-2006 season is easily the most dominating any player has had since maybe the late 1990s. Jagr was great at NYR - period.

Only reason he did not stay was that Glen Sather paid big bucks for Gomez and Drury (who both did maybe half of what Jagr did himself) and could not offer Jagr a decent contract.
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Re: Penguins want Jagr back?!

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newarenanow wrote:
http://www.postgazette.com/pg/11137/1147183-100.stm

Shero says there have been no discussionsn within the Pens to bring Jagr back.
But that can't be right, I mean Rob Rossi said! And lots of other people wrote stuff on the internet about it! Shero is obviously lying until his plan to fully reconstruct the 1991 Cup championship team is complete.
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Re: Penguins want Jagr back?!

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penny lane wrote:
newarenanow wrote:
http://www.postgazette.com/pg/11137/1147183-100.stm

Shero says there have been no discussionsn within the Pens to bring Jagr back.
Shocking! 8-)
"We have not discussed it internally, put it that way," Shero said
They were standing on Lemieux's front porch, when it was discussed. :pop: