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BigMcK · Post by **BigMcK** » Mon Apr 28, 2014 2:38 pm

When the Clippers played at the Sports Arena dump, they maybe had 3,000 - 4,000 people that attended games on a good night. After the Anaheim Arena was built, arena management so wanted the team to move into the nice new building, but Sterling was concerned that his Hollywood friends would think it was too far of a commute and they would not come out the see his loser team, despite the team had 18,000 when they played a couple preseason games there each year.

He has never been a loved sports owner, does nothing for the fans that support his team, and is only in it for the attention he gets from second rate celebrities and those that love to be where there is easy money to be had.

count2infinity · Post by **count2infinity** » Mon Apr 28, 2014 2:44 pm

Sponsors are already jumping ship, and I have a feeling there are many more to follow. This is one of the reasons I don't think this should be a huge story, nor should the NBA do anything official about it. Things will work themselves out. Sponsors will leave, players won't want to be there, the organization will have plenty of "bad things" happen to it over this recording that there's no reason to think the NBA should step in and do anything.

Troy Loney · Post by **Troy Loney** » Mon Apr 28, 2014 3:05 pm

I'm not sure I agree that the libretarian "let the market sort it out" response is the correct response from the NBA. I guess I'd assume the commisioner is consulting his legal advisers for whatever legal response he can make to distance himself and the league from this jerkoff. I'm guessing they aren't any legal means, so they'll probably just work with Sterling on an exit strategy for the team to be sold at some point.

count2infinity · Post by **count2infinity** » Mon Apr 28, 2014 3:09 pm

He's not selling the team... he'll find a way to not be "the owner" anymore, but still have the team, if that makes any sense.

pittsoccer33 · Post by **pittsoccer33** » Mon Apr 28, 2014 3:10 pm

count2infinity wrote:
nor should the NBA do anything official about it. Things will work themselves out. Sponsors will leave, players won't want to be there, the organization will have plenty of "bad things" happen to it over this recording that there's no reason to think the NBA should step in and do anything.

If it were a "normal" business I would agree with you but this isn't like any comparable situation that I can think of.

If you do those things, the team will eventually fail financially. Its not like Chi Chi's or BPI going belly up because of a PR nightmare. It is in the best interests of the league at large to have a viable and thriving team.

One that can't make money, has no fans, and has no one willing to play there can't do that.

Post by **shmenguin** » Mon Apr 28, 2014 3:10 pm

it's a huge story if you're an NBA fan, for the reasons c2i posted about what it will do to the clippers. don't know if it's a "huge story" outside that context

ulf · Post by **ulf** » Mon Apr 28, 2014 4:05 pm

I'm not sure if seeing why the "market" response wouldn't work. He's already losing a ton of sponsors, fans aren't gonna buy more tickets, players won't play there. He's gonna have to sell the team. The other owners might not want to wait for that all to happen though, so I guess maybe that would be a reason. I'm not sure they can force him to sell at this point, but I won't act like I know their ownership agreements.

Post by **tifosi77** » Mon Apr 28, 2014 4:11 pm

Heard some talk this morning saying the owners are reluctant to do anything official to sanction Sterling, vis-a-vis his ownership status, because many of them lead some pretty outlandish lifestyles and they're not eager to set a precedent where a team can be taken away from an owner for 'conduct unbecoming'.

pittsoccer33 · Post by **pittsoccer33** » Mon Apr 28, 2014 4:11 pm

Right now they are pinging the value of the team at around $500 billion. Whatever happens to hurt the value could in turn hurt the value of other teams in the league, something they wouldn't want.

pittsoccer33 · Post by **pittsoccer33** » Mon Apr 28, 2014 4:13 pm

tifosi77 wrote:
Heard some talk this morning saying the owners are reluctant to do anything official to sanction Sterling, vis-a-vis his ownership status, because many of them lead some pretty outlandish lifestyles and they're not eager to set a precedent where a team can be taken away from an owner for 'conduct unbecoming'.

Thats basically what SI.com said too.

The best argument I can have as to why this goes beyond that is him saying he doesnt want minorities to attend his games (at least with his girlfriend, if I actually understood that correctly).

Troy Loney · Post by **Troy Loney** » Mon Apr 28, 2014 4:15 pm

ulf wrote:
I'm not sure if seeing why the "market" response wouldn't work. He's already losing a ton of sponsors, fans aren't gonna buy more tickets, players won't play there. He's gonna have to sell the team. The other owners might not want to wait for that all to happen though, so I guess maybe that would be a reason. I'm not sure they can force him to sell at this point, but I won't act like I know their ownership agreements.

Because it's not up to fans, players and sponsors to show that his position is intolerable. The league might have it's hands tied with regards to tangible actions, but from a PR standpoint they should show that they want this go out by whatever means possible.

ulf · Post by **ulf** » Mon Apr 28, 2014 4:18 pm

So if they can't really do anything.. What's the PR spin gonna be? Don't attend games, don't give him money? That's already happening, if he wants to salvage any money while he can, he needs to sell asap.

Troy Loney · Post by **Troy Loney** » Mon Apr 28, 2014 4:19 pm

ulf wrote:
So if they can't really do anything.. What's the PR spin gonna be? Don't attend games, don't give him money? That's already happening, if he wants to salvage any money while he can, he needs to sell asap.

It's all PR. But when your a high profile sports league PR is a big deal.

ulf · Post by **ulf** » Mon Apr 28, 2014 4:20 pm

He's literally lost pretty much every sponsor. He wont be the owner much longer, I think it's a moot point

Post by **shmenguin** » Mon Apr 28, 2014 4:44 pm

if he doesn't sell, i think he still makes a profit. and he's already used to being despised by his fans. i don't think anything changes.

MalkinIsMyHomeboy · Post by **MalkinIsMyHomeboy** » Mon Apr 28, 2014 4:46 pm

just when the Clips started not sucking, the worst owner in the league had to bring his team down somehow.

Post by **Shyster** » Mon Apr 28, 2014 5:03 pm

Troy Loney wrote:
Because it's not up to fans, players and sponsors to show that his position is intolerable. The league might have it's hands tied with regards to tangible actions, but from a PR standpoint they should show that they want this go out by whatever means possible.

Why is it intolerable?

BigMcK · Post by **BigMcK** » Mon Apr 28, 2014 5:03 pm

If convicted of the Felony charges levied against him, I would think it would be easier for the NFL to pull the Colts franchise from Irsay than the NBA to do the same to the Clippers. Sterling is an idiot for saying what he said, but he didn't break any laws in saying it. Apples / Oranges, I know, but from a legal standpoint, idiot isn't illegal.

Although one would think there is a code of ethics agreement signed by each owner that lists items deemed detrimental to the overall league where the league could in some way impact ownership of a franchise.

I can see a huge fine headed his way, and maybe a draft pick or two yanked from their future. He never cared about anyone before and the NBA let him continue to own a franchise when he let it rot on the vine. If it resorts back to only 3,000 at the arena inside, at least they have history.

Cedar Penn · Post by **Cedar Penn** » Mon Apr 28, 2014 5:17 pm

They could move team to Pittsburgh and be called the Pittsburgh Clippers (Gateway Clipper) Get it?

ulf · Post by **ulf** » Mon Apr 28, 2014 6:15 pm

Looks like a 3/4 vote could terminate his ownership

Post by **shafnutz05** » Mon Apr 28, 2014 6:16 pm

tifosi77 wrote:

Factorial · Post by **Factorial** » Mon Apr 28, 2014 6:21 pm

I had to laugh when I heard him say he didn't mind her sleeping with "them" but was upset that she was appearing in photos with "them" on instagram.

Post by **tifosi77** » Mon Apr 28, 2014 6:44 pm

It's in public.

count2infinity · Post by **count2infinity** » Mon Apr 28, 2014 6:59 pm

Shyster wrote:
Troy Loney wrote:
Because it's not up to fans, players and sponsors to show that his position is intolerable. The league might have it's hands tied with regards to tangible actions, but from a PR standpoint they should show that they want this go out by whatever means possible.
Why is it intolerable?

Post by **Shyster** » Mon Apr 28, 2014 7:03 pm

To be clear, I am absolutely appalled by this matter. Not because an old geezer said something offensive, but rather the howling horde of manufactured public indignation. Apparently, saying something that might hurt another person's feelings is not only a crime worthy of losing your job (see the former CEO of Mozilla), but in the mere weeks since that brouhaha the crime has increased to the point where this man must be forcibly sundered from his own personal property. Articles all of the web (and posters here on LGP) are demanding that he lose his franchise. Why don't we just go back to the good 'ol days and build a pyre so we can just burn the heretic?

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