ISIS Crisis
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Re: ISIS Crisis
Maybe world leaders can condemn them and call them "evil" or something.
Shaming them seems to work.
Shaming them seems to work.
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Re: ISIS Crisis
Agreed, but at this point there's nothing that can be done to prevent chaos outside of playing their game.Gaucho wrote:Corn.
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Re: ISIS Crisis
Yes. They go what they wanted.Factorial wrote:Agreed, but at this point there's nothing that can be done to prevent chaos outside of playing their game.Gaucho wrote:Corn.
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Re: ISIS Crisis
ISIS and Syrian rebels, the guys some politicians keep swearing are the "good guys" agreed to a non-aggression pact this week.
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Those types of videos are annoying (even though there were people who knew not to support it) because you could cherry pick the idiots.PensFanInDC wrote:
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The fact that there are any idiots at all is disturbing when it comes to this issue.
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Come on, you know its all our fault. I mean that place only became unruly in the last century. Before that, it was totally Eden.shafnutz05 wrote:Another person beheaded today by ISIS.
The United States, and the West in general, has made many mistakes in that region of the world, no doubt about it. And we have most certainly gotten our hands dirty in places we have no business being.
All that being said, I think it is a cheap cop-out to simply chalk up the actions of these savages as reactions to "imperialist foreign policy". Saudi Arabia doesn't impose horrific penalties and restrictions on women because of United States foreign policy. Women aren't stoned for being raped because of USFP. Children aren't used as suicide bombers because of USFP.
I could go on and on, but I'm tired of hearing about how everything that's bad that happens over there is somehow our fault. We've screwed up a lot of things, but religious extremism cannot completely be blamed on what we've done in the region. I truly hope for the Islamic world, but I don't see a change coming anytime soon. Hell, the much-celebrated "Arab Spring" merely overturned secular dictators and replaced them with theocratic regimes.

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It is horrifying that they show their next victim at the end of each video because they will not stop and that person is going to be murdered.
Have their been any reports about how many hostages ISIS or even one of the Syrian rebel groups have captured since they are now selling hostages to ISIS as well?
Have their been any reports about how many hostages ISIS or even one of the Syrian rebel groups have captured since they are now selling hostages to ISIS as well?
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Not to sound cold, but it's the EU countries paying ransom that makes it all worthwhile for ISIS. I frankly don't know why it happens.
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It's cheaper to pay a few million in ransoms than the actual cost of building an army and weapons to combat them and no one gets upset because it's not thier countrymen being butchered.Gaucho wrote:Not to sound cold, but it's the EU countries paying ransom that makes it all worthwhile for ISIS. I frankly don't know why it happens.
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Well, that's rubbish.DelPen wrote:It's cheaper to pay a few million in ransoms than the actual cost of building an army and weapons to combat them and no one gets upset because it's not thier countrymen being butchered.Gaucho wrote:Not to sound cold, but it's the EU countries paying ransom that makes it all worthwhile for ISIS. I frankly don't know why it happens.
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The reason why Europe is able to do it is because they know that they can just use the American military if anything serious ever happens.
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The ISIS Wallet app changed its name to Softcard.
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Did you hear that on Fox News?Green Eggs and Ham wrote:The reason why Europe is able to do it is because they know that they can just use the American military if anything serious ever happens.
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ftfyGreen Eggs and Ham wrote:The reason why Europe is able to do it is because they know that they can just hide behind and then blame the American military if anything serious ever happens.
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Did you hear that on Fox News?PensFanInDC wrote:ftfyGreen Eggs and Ham wrote:The reason why Europe is able to do it is because they know that they can just hide behind and then blame the American military if anything serious ever happens.
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NoGaucho wrote:Did you hear that on Fox News?Green Eggs and Ham wrote:The reason why Europe is able to do it is because they know that they can just use the American military if anything serious ever happens.
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Just checking. As you were.
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even if he did, it is still correct.
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You mean giving ISIS incentives for kidnapping right?Gaucho wrote:Not to sound cold, but it's the EU countries paying ransom that makes it all worthwhile for ISIS. I frankly don't know why it happens.
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European stocks have been really taking a hit....that's also Gaucho's fault.
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Except all it does is give more funds to an organization that is already far and away the best funded terrorist group in history. Which means when the time comes to engage militarily, they will be that much better equipped prepared. I think it's reprehensible what those governments are doing. I can understand corporations or private families paying ransom, but governments allowing themselves to be extorted like this? It's criminal.DelPen wrote:It's cheaper to pay a few million in ransoms than the actual cost of building an army and weapons to combat them and no one gets upset because it's not thier countrymen being butchered.Gaucho wrote:Not to sound cold, but it's the EU countries paying ransom that makes it all worthwhile for ISIS. I frankly don't know why it happens.
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Yes.Troy Loney wrote:You mean giving ISIS incentives for kidnapping right?Gaucho wrote:Not to sound cold, but it's the EU countries paying ransom that makes it all worthwhile for ISIS. I frankly don't know why it happens.
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Are we talking about more than France here?Gaucho wrote:Not to sound cold, but it's the EU countries paying ransom that makes it all worthwhile for ISIS. I frankly don't know why it happens.