Arrow/Flash Thread (not sponsored by anyone)

[Dickie Dunn]

Really good episode of The Flash last night. The story with Harrison Wells is getting extremely interesting.

[Froggy]

Laurel is awful. Just bad at everything.

[PensFanInDC]

I lied Arrow better when the Arrow was in the show...

[Digitalgypsy66]

[Digitalgypsy66]

Looks like there will be an Atom/Flash crossover later this season, per Grant Gustin.

[Froggy]

Caitlin Snow>>Felicity Smoak>>>>>>>>>a pile of dirty rocks>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Laurel Lance

[Digitalgypsy66]

Yeah, not a fan of whiny Felicity these days.

[Froggy]

Yeah, not a fan of whiny Felicity these days.

At least she's good at her job, generally useful, and not a drug addict. But to her credit, laurel does have magic powers that make her able to be a super hero after 2 weeks of boxing lessons

[Dickie Dunn]

Yeah, not a fan of whiny Felicity these days.

At least she's good at her job, generally useful, and not a drug addict. But to her credit, laurel does have magic powers that make her able to be a super hero after 2 weeks of boxing lessons

Laurel has always be shown with some self defense skills. Daughter of a cop.

[largegarlic]

I'm not sure that I like this season of Arrow at all. They just don't seem to have a coherent central plot to hang everything on.

Spoiler:

Merlyn wanted to get the League of Assassins off his back, so he drugged Thea and somehow hypnotized her into killing Sarah. Which then meant that the League would be after Thea, and the only way to stop them would be for Oliver to kill Ra's Al Ghul. That's convoluted and implausible enough already, but now we're told that Oliver has to train under Merlyn because Merlyn is the one who knows how to defeat Ra's. But if that's the case, why didn't Merlyn just kill Ra's himself?

I'm also kind of annoyed that secret Asian herbs were enough to bring Oliver back from a sword through the gut and a 100-foot fall onto a rocky ledge. I find the lazarus pit to be more believable.

[Dickie Dunn]

I'm not sure that I like this season of Arrow at all. They just don't seem to have a coherent central plot to hang everything on.

Spoiler:

Merlyn wanted to get the League of Assassins off his back, so he drugged Thea and somehow hypnotized her into killing Sarah. Which then meant that the League would be after Thea, and the only way to stop them would be for Oliver to kill Ra's Al Ghul. That's convoluted and implausible enough already, but now we're told that Oliver has to train under Merlyn because Merlyn is the one who knows how to defeat Ra's. But if that's the case, why didn't Merlyn just kill Ra's himself?

I'm also kind of annoyed that secret Asian herbs were enough to bring Oliver back from a sword through the gut and a 100-foot fall onto a rocky ledge. I find the lazarus pit to be more believable.

Those are pretty much my feelings as well.

Spoiler:

The storyline is just convoluted as hell. I saw Wednesday's episode described as "The Green Arrow Rises" which is basically what it was. Oliver's recovery sucked. Just use the damn Lazarus pits. I like that the rest of the team has been more involved this season, especially Roy, but Diggle needs to see more action. I think Diggle and Cisco are tied at one action scene a piece for the season. That just doesn't work for me. Felicity has been weird this season as well. Very whiney.

[Digitalgypsy66]

Yeah, largegarlic, I have the same issues with your spoiled points. After the first two seasons, this seems...a bit off. Although

Spoiler:

with Oliver back, things could get back to normal.

[PensFanInDC]

Something tells me that, with the end of this past episode, we are in for some "old fashioned" Arrow. We deserve it since the break ended. This episode was super cheesy, more than normal, but I like where it is going.

[tfrizz]

A few excerpts from TVLine's interview with Arrow showrunner Marc Guggenheim (spoilered for those who aren't caught up):

Spoiler:

TVLINE | I feel like we’re entering the “third act” of the season, following Sara’s murder and that investigation, and then Oliver “dying” at Ra’s al Ghul’s hand, to protect Thea.

The season is more demarcated in fourths, as opposed to the traditional three-act structure. Certainly Episodes 10, 11 and 12 were their own”mini-act,” with Team Arrow moving on in the wake of Oliver’s apparent death. Episode 13 kicks off the next piece of our story, and things get a really crazy from here on out. Episodes 13, 14 and 15 are probably the next “book” or movement in the story, 15 ends with a game-changing twist, and from 16 to 23 it’s just one crazy run up to the finish line. [Laughs] I’m really excited about where we’re going mainly because, as I tweeted out, when all is said and done with Season 3, stabbing Oliver through the chest and kicking him off a cliff will end up being the least crazy thing we do all year. I encourage people to watch the whole season and then confirm whether or not I’m telling the truth.

Spoiler:

TVLINE | Now, even though that is his goal, I can’t imagine that the TV show Arrow can kill the Ra’s al Ghul character. I suspect larger forces at DC Comics wouldn’t want that to happen.

The truth of the matter is that DC is our partner, and they’ve been a wonderful partner. They’ve never told us who has to die or who has to live — and I don’t anticipate that changing any time soon. What we do with Ra’s as far as whether or not he lives or dies will be based solely on a creative decision that we make for the good of the show, and has nothing to do with the greater forces at DC.

TVLINE | Plus, with someone like Ra’s, “dies” probably always comes with quotation marks.

Certainly given the Lazarus Pit and what’s happened in the comic books and what not….

Spoiler:

TVLINE | I was reading the synopsis for Episode 14, “The Returned,” and it sounds like a fun nod to longtime fans, as Flashback Oliver sneaks back into Starling City and discreetly checks in on everyone.

Episode 14 is a bit of a “love letter” to the show. It stands on its own feet, for people who are new to the show, but if you’ve been watching since Season 1, it’s got a ton of Easter eggs and little inside jokes. There’s a lot of really fun moments that are the kind of things you can only do if you’ve done over 50 episodes — you get to go back and explore your roots a little bit, so you’ll want to watch this episode carefully. My hope is that if people watch the show now but haven’t seen Season 1, they’ll want to go back and Netflix it afterwards.

Spoiler:

TVLINE | Stephen Amell was telling me that Episode 15, “Nanda Parbat,” is especially stunt- and action-heavy, one of his favorites of the season.

It certainly is one of mine. It’s one of those episodes where everything came together very nicely — its got some wonderful character moments, some incredible action, and it’s got a final twist that I think people will be talking about for a long time. Certainly a twist that sets the table for the remainder of the season.

[Dickie Dunn]

Absolutely awesome episode of The Flash last night.

[Froggy]

Wow. I just watched Arrow... whole lot of plot crammed into that episode

[PensFanInDC]

Well they owed us. We're gonna watch tonight.

[Dickie Dunn]

I thought it was probably the best episode of the season.

Spoiler:

Glad Thea finally knows the truth and that Quentin finally knows about Sara. He hasn't been a huge part of this season, but I imagine its only a matter of time before he learns Oliver is the Arrow. Or maybe he'll die, who knows.

[Froggy]

that ending, though...

Spoiler:

oliver was back in Starling City during his time on "the island"? wow.

[tfrizz]

Excellent episode of Arrow tonight. The rest of this season promises to be incredible!

[Digitalgypsy66]

No new Flash until 17 March.

Great episode of Arrow though.

Spoiler:

Atom! New R'as!

[Froggy]

i feel like this season of arrow is EVERYTHING IS COOL!!!!! NOTHING MAKES SENSE!!!!!


also, laurel is still awful

[PensFanInDC]

i feel like this season of arrow is EVERYTHING IS COOL!!!!! NOTHING MAKES SENSE!!!!!


also, laurel is still awful

Just finished the episode. It was the most overacted of the series and that's saying something.

[Digitalgypsy66]

Stephen Amell posted a picture of Arrow, Black Canary, and Arsenal with the caption "End of an era."

Let's hope Laurel retires Canary.

[Froggy]

Stephen Amell posted a picture of Arrow, Black Canary, and Arsenal with the caption "End of an era."

Let's hope Laurel retires Canary. :pop:

You mean you don't like the current cycle of her foolishly rushing into a situation, getting beat up, needing rescued, and getting lectured about how she shouldn't be a superhero?