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Absolutely wild. Can’t possibly understand what’s happening here. What happens if he gets shelled down there??
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Puck-Lurker wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2024 4:47 pm
Timing is just bizarre on this.

Taylor Haase asked Sullivan if this was planned. Sully started answering very quickly with a "yes"
"It's just part of the process that that we've put in place here over the next little while to try to help Tristan get to his very best. This is just the process that we've put in place. We spoke to Tristan about it, and he's bought into it.

They want Jarry to work with people in Pittsburgh. Sully specifically mentioned Jon Elkin (director of goaltending - now there's a title). Maybe on recommendation of Chiodo (goalie coach) who's traveling with the team.

Several ways to take that:
- They're starting/in a process to work with a sport psychologist, or something similar, to help Jarry along. Nothing wrong with that. It's not for everyone, but Jarry's running out of options.
- Something else is in play and they're trying to save Jarry from needing to enter the NHL players assistance programme. Here I have to stress: I don't think this, don't believe this, there's no evidence to support this.
- Jarry is bad vibes in the locker room, somehow. Maybe teammates can't stand him for something he said, or did. Or he similarly crossed the line with coaches. I don't.. quite buy this.
- Jarry needs to work with goalie coaches on his own and take some time to sort out his game (try to salvage it). Doing so with the team will detract from the needs of Ned and Blomqvist.
- Pens hate Jarry and want to fire him into the sun.
If you want to hear even more bizarre...sure seems like Jarry and the team weren't necessarily all in agreement or on the same page with going back to Pittsburgh and the conditioning assignment. In Yohe's 10 thoughts today, he mentioned that this was Jarry's comments before they left for the road trip:

Last Saturday, two hours before the Penguins left Pittsburgh for this trip, this is what Jarry said: “Obviously, it’s good for me. I get to see my family. Being on the West Coast, you don’t get to see your family very often. Only get to see my parents once or twice a year. It’ll be a nice little reset to see my family and to spend time with them.”
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janissary782 wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2024 10:34 am
Absolutely wild. Can’t possibly understand what’s happening here. What happens if he gets shelled down there??
So far this season WBS plays better defense than the NHL Penguins. I don’t get to watch games, but I think if Jarry gives up a bunch of goals his NHL career might just be over.
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FLPensFan wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2024 12:14 pm
Puck-Lurker wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2024 4:47 pm
Timing is just bizarre on this.

Taylor Haase asked Sullivan if this was planned. Sully started answering very quickly with a "yes"
"It's just part of the process that that we've put in place here over the next little while to try to help Tristan get to his very best. This is just the process that we've put in place. We spoke to Tristan about it, and he's bought into it.

They want Jarry to work with people in Pittsburgh. Sully specifically mentioned Jon Elkin (director of goaltending - now there's a title). Maybe on recommendation of Chiodo (goalie coach) who's traveling with the team.

Several ways to take that:
- They're starting/in a process to work with a sport psychologist, or something similar, to help Jarry along. Nothing wrong with that. It's not for everyone, but Jarry's running out of options.
- Something else is in play and they're trying to save Jarry from needing to enter the NHL players assistance programme. Here I have to stress: I don't think this, don't believe this, there's no evidence to support this.
- Jarry is bad vibes in the locker room, somehow. Maybe teammates can't stand him for something he said, or did. Or he similarly crossed the line with coaches. I don't.. quite buy this.
- Jarry needs to work with goalie coaches on his own and take some time to sort out his game (try to salvage it). Doing so with the team will detract from the needs of Ned and Blomqvist.
- Pens hate Jarry and want to fire him into the sun.
If you want to hear even more bizarre...sure seems like Jarry and the team weren't necessarily all in agreement or on the same page with going back to Pittsburgh and the conditioning assignment. In Yohe's 10 thoughts today, he mentioned that this was Jarry's comments before they left for the road trip:

Last Saturday, two hours before the Penguins left Pittsburgh for this trip, this is what Jarry said: “Obviously, it’s good for me. I get to see my family. Being on the West Coast, you don’t get to see your family very often. Only get to see my parents once or twice a year. It’ll be a nice little reset to see my family and to spend time with them.”
Crazy.. certainly nothing of this indicates, or even hints at this being planned. I'm not sure I'd start Jarry over our WBS goalies, either.
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I guess the Murashov experiment is over.
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Wyopen wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2024 1:29 pm
I guess the Murashov experiment is over.
I doubt that. It's still early for WBS. They've only played 5 games; Larsson has 3 starts, Nedeljkovic has 1, and Murashov has 1. Murashov gave up one goal and has a .964 SV%. Larsson has been solid too, but not to that level.

Jarry will get some starts, but they will still need to keep everyone fresh. AHL usually plays 3 games in a weekend, so they should look at giving each goalie a start.

Jarry can only be down there for 14 days I believe, maybe a limit of 5 games...in terms of a conditioning assignment.
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FLPensFan wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2024 1:34 pm
Wyopen wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2024 1:29 pm
I guess the Murashov experiment is over.
I doubt that. It's still early for WBS. They've only played 5 games; Larsson has 3 starts, Nedeljkovic has 1, and Murashov has 1. Murashov gave up one goal and has a .964 SV%. Larsson has been solid too, but not to that level.

Jarry will get some starts, but they will still need to keep everyone fresh. AHL usually plays 3 games in a weekend, so they should look at giving each goalie a start.

Jarry can only be down there for 14 days I believe, maybe a limit of 5 games...in terms of a conditioning assignment.
On another note, do you have any concerns about RMG2 having no points in three games?
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BTW, apparently Murashov was assigned to Wheeling today.
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Wyopen wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2024 2:00 pm
FLPensFan wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2024 1:34 pm
Wyopen wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2024 1:29 pm
I guess the Murashov experiment is over.
I doubt that. It's still early for WBS. They've only played 5 games; Larsson has 3 starts, Nedeljkovic has 1, and Murashov has 1. Murashov gave up one goal and has a .964 SV%. Larsson has been solid too, but not to that level.

Jarry will get some starts, but they will still need to keep everyone fresh. AHL usually plays 3 games in a weekend, so they should look at giving each goalie a start.

Jarry can only be down there for 14 days I believe, maybe a limit of 5 games...in terms of a conditioning assignment.
On another note, do you have any concerns about RMG2 having no points in three games?
WB/S lost 2-0 and he was a -2.
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Crash66 wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2024 3:16 pm
Wyopen wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2024 2:00 pm
FLPensFan wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2024 1:34 pm
Wyopen wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2024 1:29 pm
I guess the Murashov experiment is over.
I doubt that. It's still early for WBS. They've only played 5 games; Larsson has 3 starts, Nedeljkovic has 1, and Murashov has 1. Murashov gave up one goal and has a .964 SV%. Larsson has been solid too, but not to that level.

Jarry will get some starts, but they will still need to keep everyone fresh. AHL usually plays 3 games in a weekend, so they should look at giving each goalie a start.

Jarry can only be down there for 14 days I believe, maybe a limit of 5 games...in terms of a conditioning assignment.
On another note, do you have any concerns about RMG2 having no points in three games?
WB/S lost 2-0 and he was a -2.
They just finally moved him off of a 3rd line. Last night he played LW on the 1st line with Katchouk at C and Poulin on RW. Give him a few more games there, but honestly, I'd rather the move Bemstrom off the 2nd line, and play Rutger on LW with Broz and Koivunen.
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Wyopen wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2024 2:44 pm
BTW, apparently Murashov was assigned to Wheeling today.
I think that's the thing I hate most about this.

What'd Murashov do to deserve this?

@#%^@ Jarry. Send him to Wheeling. :evil:
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Puck-Lurker wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:11 pm
Wyopen wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2024 2:44 pm
BTW, apparently Murashov was assigned to Wheeling today.
I think that's the thing I hate most about this.

What'd Murashov do to deserve this?

@#%^@ Jarry. Send him to Wheeling. :evil:
No big deal. It's the same principle of sending a top prospect to the AHL to play top line minutes rather than 3rd/4th line minutes. It's temporary and he'll be fine.
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Daniel wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:14 pm
Puck-Lurker wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:11 pm
Wyopen wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2024 2:44 pm
BTW, apparently Murashov was assigned to Wheeling today.
I think that's the thing I hate most about this.

What'd Murashov do to deserve this?

@#%^@ Jarry. Send him to Wheeling. :evil:
No big deal. It's the same principle of sending a top prospect to the AHL to play top line minutes rather than 3rd/4th line minutes. It's temporary and he'll be fine.
So, reading Taylor's summary:
--Jarry will indeed be there the whole 2 weeks, and, because WBS has no back to back games during that period, the intent is for Jarry to start ALL FIVE GAMES during that time period.
--This was discussed with Jarry ahead of time (although his comments about seeing family seem to contradict the timing) because a player has to approve/accept the conditioning assignment when it is for non-injury purposes, and the league has to approve it to make sure it isn't a cap circumvention move.
--The reason he flew to WPG & CGY is they wanted to maximize his practice time with Andy Chiodo, who was on the trip. I believe he got into 3 full practices with Chiodo, but there wouldn't be more full practices with the back to back games coming up plus the plan to go to WBS, plus the fact that it is basically a full day of travel going from CGY to PIT/WBS, they sent him back before the last 2 games of the trip to work with John Elkin.
--Tonight's game was supposed to be Murashov's next start. He obviously was sent to Wheeling to keep him playing, knowing that the Penguins plan to give Jarry all the starts while he is there.
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I had no idea you could just send down a player for a conditioning stint because they stink and not actually hurt.

3/4 of this roster should be sent down to WBS to "get to their game"
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Can we send whole D to AHL for conditioning? LOL
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Pens4Life wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2024 7:04 pm
Can we sent whole D to AHL for conditioning? LOL
I think you mean everyone but EK65 - He's playing "great".
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KG wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2024 6:12 pm
I had no idea you could just send down a player for a conditioning stint because they stink and not actually hurt.

3/4 of this roster should be sent down to WBS to "get to their game"
Upon reading this I laughed out loud and showered my phone with iced tea via my nose. Thanks!
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Jarry with 32 saves tonight in a 3-2 win. RMG a -1 and no points. Broz may be a future bright spot.
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He was also the #1 star of the game. LOL
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Pens4Life wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2024 7:04 pm
Can we send whole D to AHL for conditioning? LOL
Letang and Karlsson have NMCs. But let's ask real nicely.. call up some AHL guys to play their spots.
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KG wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2024 6:12 pm
I had no idea you could just send down a player for a conditioning stint because they stink and not actually hurt.

3/4 of this roster should be sent down to WBS to "get to their game"
Can we "condition" our coach?
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FLPensFan wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2024 11:51 am
KG wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2024 6:12 pm
I had no idea you could just send down a player for a conditioning stint because they stink and not actually hurt.

3/4 of this roster should be sent down to WBS to "get to their game"
Can we "condition" our coach?
Do you think the local beer league team will even want Sullivan?
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Puck-Lurker wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2024 2:32 pm
FLPensFan wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2024 11:51 am
KG wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2024 6:12 pm
I had no idea you could just send down a player for a conditioning stint because they stink and not actually hurt.

3/4 of this roster should be sent down to WBS to "get to their game"
Can we "condition" our coach?
Do you think the local beer league team will even want Sullivan?
C'mon. We all know that Sullivan will have his preferred pick when he finally is let go. This is the NHL.