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I'm a bit surprised we've not seen a Beauvillier or Grzelcyk trade. All the reports out there for the past 2 months said teams were calling on them, along with DOC (who got dealt).
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FLPensFan wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 3:08 pm
I'm a bit surprised we've not seen a Beauvillier or Grzelcyk trade. All the reports out there for the past 2 months said teams were calling on them, along with DOC (who got dealt).
Still time. I'd be shocked if they aren't moved.
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Another interesting note....Novak has selected or been assigned #18. Schenn...still has no announced number. Still thinking about flipping him for the right price?

Schenn (50% retained) to Toronto for Robertson and Florida's 2025 2nd
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FLPensFan wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 2:48 pm
There were no Penguins on waivers today. You may find that normal, however, Boko Immama is still on the NHL roster. By not placing him on waivers today, he's going to be on the NHL roster rest of the season. He won't be eligible for AHL playoffs.
Included in a trade?
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FLPensFan wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 3:35 pm
Another interesting note....Novak has selected or been assigned #18. Schenn...still has no announced number. Still thinking about flipping him for the right price?

Schenn (50% retained) to Toronto for Robertson and Florida's 2025 2nd

That would be a major W for us. I like the idea of Schenn mentoring our next wave of D Men - but I like the idea of flipping him much much more.
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FLPensFan wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 3:35 pm
Another interesting note....Novak has selected or been assigned #18. Schenn...still has no announced number. Still thinking about flipping him for the right price?

Schenn (50% retained) to Toronto for Robertson and Florida's 2025 2nd
Why lose last retention spot on Schenn on already small salary? Doesnt make sense.. keep last retention for possible EK, Graves, Jarry or Hayes.. bigger contracts
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Pens4Life wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 3:56 pm
FLPensFan wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 3:35 pm
Another interesting note....Novak has selected or been assigned #18. Schenn...still has no announced number. Still thinking about flipping him for the right price?

Schenn (50% retained) to Toronto for Robertson and Florida's 2025 2nd
Why lose last retention spot on Schenn on already small salary? Doesnt make sense.. keep last retention for possible EK, Graves, Jarry or Hayes.. bigger contracts
Two retention spots open up this summer. We'd be fine.
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In the summer yes.. but now its last one
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I don’t think a Jarry or EK trade happens until the summer anyway.
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Pens4Life wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 4:11 pm
In the summer yes.. but now its last one
Right, but we should use it. Unless EK is moved we should use that slot. Not sure what you're getting at. Why should we save it?
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Michael74 wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 4:24 pm
Pens4Life wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 4:11 pm
In the summer yes.. but now its last one
Right, but we should use it. Unless EK is moved we should use that slot. Not sure what you're getting at. Why should we save it?
Sure use it,but only IF they are really sure that none of bigger contracts gets traded.. where retention would probably better used
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Michael74 wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 4:24 pm
Pens4Life wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 4:11 pm
In the summer yes.. but now its last one
Right, but we should use it. Unless EK is moved we should use that slot. Not sure what you're getting at. Why should we save it?
If KD doesn't have any offers where he's using it for something big like EK, Rakell, or a Jarry cap dump, why not use it on a UFA like Beau or Gryz to get a better return. As long as we get the slot back after the season, might as well use it.

Beau @ $625k (if that's legal) instead of $1.25M
Gryz @ $1.375 instead of $2.75M

Probably won't make that much of a difference, but if the return is a pick and it bumps it up a around, might as well do it.
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EndO FanEra wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 4:47 pm
Michael74 wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 4:24 pm
Pens4Life wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 4:11 pm
In the summer yes.. but now its last one
Right, but we should use it. Unless EK is moved we should use that slot. Not sure what you're getting at. Why should we save it?
If KD doesn't have any offers where he's using it for something big like EK, Rakell, or a Jarry cap dump, why not use it on a UFA like Beau or Gryz to get a better return. As long as we get the slot back after the season, might as well use it.

Beau @ $625k (if that's legal) instead of $1.25M
Gryz @ $1.375 instead of $2.75M

Probably won't make that much of a difference, but if the return is a pick and it bumps it up a around, might as well do it.
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EndO FanEra wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 4:47 pm
Michael74 wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 4:24 pm
Pens4Life wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 4:11 pm
In the summer yes.. but now its last one
Right, but we should use it. Unless EK is moved we should use that slot. Not sure what you're getting at. Why should we save it?
If KD doesn't have any offers where he's using it for something big like EK, Rakell, or a Jarry cap dump, why not use it on a UFA like Beau or Gryz to get a better return. As long as we get the slot back after the season, might as well use it.

Beau @ $625k (if that's legal) instead of $1.25M
Gryz @ $1.375 instead of $2.75M

Probably won't make that much of a difference, but if the return is a pick and it bumps it up a around, might as well do it.
That is legal, though, why we would retain on a nothing burger of a contract like Beauvillier is beyond me. I don't think that would bump up the pick by a round. Grz, maybe.

Much prefer to use it to eject Karlsson and get something useful back. Give me your first rounders!
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FLPensFan wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 3:35 pm
Another interesting note....Novak has selected or been assigned #18. Schenn...still has no announced number. Still thinking about flipping him for the right price?

Schenn (50% retained) to Toronto for Robertson and Florida's 2025 2nd
Or he's working on a bribe with McGroarty for the #2. I mean it's not currently in use but it would be rude since he wore it a few months ago. :D :fist:
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Heard Seth Rorabaugh say Pens should start the asking price for Rakell at three 1st rounders :shock: .

That seems like crazy talk but who knows.

I’d be very happy with a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd for him.
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Did I see Dumoulin traded for a 2nd?
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penscup wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 5:48 pm
Heard Seth Rorabaugh say Pens should start the asking price for Rakell at three 1st rounders :shock: .

That seems like crazy talk but who knows.

I’d be very happy with a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd for him.
That's ridiculous and I heard the same thing. He also suggested we should just hold onto Rakell which when you consider this mareket would be asinine!

I could see something like this: Rakell, '25 3rd to LA for Brandt Clarke, '26 1st and Trevor Moore.

Maybe we add Beauviller and pick up an additional pick. But they're up against the cap so...
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Definitely agree we should be all in trying to move Rakell at this years deadline as his value and the market are perfect. Yes we still have to ice a team and yes keep Sid happy, but it’s not like he hasn’t produced with the Simons and Sheary’s of the world.
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BlackNGold4Life wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 6:08 pm
Definitely agree we should be all in trying to move Rakell at this years deadline as his value and the market are perfect. Yes we still have to ice a team and yes keep Sid happy, but it’s not like he hasn’t produced with the Simons and Sheary’s of the world.
You could put Jágr on his wing right now and that line would put up goals.
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Media and some fans act like if we trade Rakell we aren't allowed to dress a 1sr line LW anymore. This season is done. Try someone else in the top 6....NOT YOU CODY GLASS. Or keep Beauvillier and play him with Crosby the rest of the year.

We are limited in callups and want prospects playing in playoffs....but give McGroarty another look or Koivunen his first look.

There are options. The world and 1st line LW will go on if Rakell is moved.
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Yes, I want to see Koivunen get some ice time with the big club.
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penscup wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 5:48 pm
Heard Seth Rorabaugh say Pens should start the asking price for Rakell at three 1st rounders :shock: .

That seems like crazy talk but who knows.

I’d be very happy with a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd for him.
Maybe at 50% retention for the next 3.5 years.
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If tomorrow afternoon and RR is still on our roster, and Dubas is asked why, and the answer he gives is that he didn't receive an offer that he liked, then he didn't try hard enough and failed the team.

He needs to be aggressive and get the deal done that he likes. Pick a dance partner and get out there on the dance floor.
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BigMcK wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 6:40 pm
If tomorrow afternoon and RR is still on our roster, and Dubas is asked why, and the answer he gives is that he didn't receive an offer that he liked, then he didn't try hard enough and failed the team.

He needs to be aggressive and get the deal done that he likes. Pick a dance partner and get out there on the dance floor.
100%, these next few hours will go a long way in my mind in determining if KD is strongly moving us in the right direction. Instead of an incremental improvement it could be a profound one IF he maximizes and moves Rakell. Holding onto him would be awful in my book. If Rakell scores 35 goals on a last place team how does that help us? Also, he's going to be 32 soon. Chances are this will be the very best year of his career. Please Kyle, strike while the iron is hot!