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Puck-Lurker wrote: Wed Mar 05, 2025 8:53 pm
thehockeyguru wrote: Wed Mar 05, 2025 8:51 pm
KG wrote: Wed Mar 05, 2025 8:45 pm


Have to think Schenn gets flipped to a contender for futures.

Novak is only 27 and is a solid 3C which we don't have. I
Novak is 28 in April. More LW than C. Not a big fan of this
We're paying a 4th rounder for the privilege of this...?!

Whiffed big time if this sticks and nothing further is done with this.
I sincerely doubt this is it. Pretty sure more dominos will fall. Again we have until 3pm friday.
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I hate it
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Puck-Lurker wrote: Wed Mar 05, 2025 8:53 pm
thehockeyguru wrote: Wed Mar 05, 2025 8:51 pm
KG wrote: Wed Mar 05, 2025 8:45 pm


Have to think Schenn gets flipped to a contender for futures.

Novak is only 27 and is a solid 3C which we don't have. I
Novak is 28 in April. More LW than C. Not a big fan of this
We're paying a 4th rounder for the privilege of this...?!

Whiffed big time if this sticks and nothing further is done with this.
Yeah, really hope there's something else attached to that deal. I wouldn't expect Shenn to be here long, so I hate the fact that we somehow managed to get softer and easier to play against.
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Puck-Lurker wrote: Wed Mar 05, 2025 9:00 pm


I hate it
Talk about rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.
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EndO FanEra wrote: Wed Mar 05, 2025 9:01 pm
Puck-Lurker wrote: Wed Mar 05, 2025 8:53 pm
thehockeyguru wrote: Wed Mar 05, 2025 8:51 pm
KG wrote: Wed Mar 05, 2025 8:45 pm


Have to think Schenn gets flipped to a contender for futures.

Novak is only 27 and is a solid 3C which we don't have. I
Novak is 28 in April. More LW than C. Not a big fan of this
We're paying a 4th rounder for the privilege of this...?!

Whiffed big time if this sticks and nothing further is done with this.
Yeah, really hope there's something else attached to that deal. I wouldn't expect Shenn to be here long, so I hate the fact that we somehow managed to get softer and easier to play against.
Nope, this is it. Bunting + 4th for Novak and Schenn and I hate it lol
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FLPensFan wrote: Wed Mar 05, 2025 8:58 pm
Move Acciari out.
Retain 50% on Schenn and get a 2nd or a 3rd (not my idea, saw somewhere on Twitter)

If those 2 things can pan out, I'll like this more.
The Schenn part of the trade is a head scratcher. We essentially paid a 4th for Schenn Why move Desharneis if you aren't keeping Schenn
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Puck-Lurker wrote: Wed Mar 05, 2025 9:00 pm


I hate it
That's nuts! We added a 4th?
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TexasPenguins wrote: Wed Mar 05, 2025 9:02 pm
Puck-Lurker wrote: Wed Mar 05, 2025 9:00 pm


I hate it
Talk about rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.
This
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Puck-Lurker wrote: Wed Mar 05, 2025 9:02 pm
EndO FanEra wrote: Wed Mar 05, 2025 9:01 pm
Puck-Lurker wrote: Wed Mar 05, 2025 8:53 pm
thehockeyguru wrote: Wed Mar 05, 2025 8:51 pm
KG wrote: Wed Mar 05, 2025 8:45 pm


Have to think Schenn gets flipped to a contender for futures.

Novak is only 27 and is a solid 3C which we don't have. I
Novak is 28 in April. More LW than C. Not a big fan of this
We're paying a 4th rounder for the privilege of this...?!

Whiffed big time if this sticks and nothing further is done with this.
Yeah, really hope there's something else attached to that deal. I wouldn't expect Shenn to be here long, so I hate the fact that we somehow managed to get softer and easier to play against.
Nope, this is it. Bunting + 4th for Novak and Schenn and I hate it lol
Don't you think you should wait a few hours before concluding anything. I feel very confident in saying we aren't done yet.
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It was probably more of them trying to fit Rakell in with the cap hit being higher than Novak. And the Pens saying they would take Schenn off their hands knowing they could probably get a 3rd for him and then Nashville saying fine but give us a 4th.
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thehockeyguru wrote: Wed Mar 05, 2025 9:02 pm
FLPensFan wrote: Wed Mar 05, 2025 8:58 pm
Move Acciari out.
Retain 50% on Schenn and get a 2nd or a 3rd (not my idea, saw somewhere on Twitter)

If those 2 things can pan out, I'll like this more.
The Schenn part of the trade is a head scratcher. We essentially paid a 4th for Schenn Why move Desharneis if you aren't keeping Schenn
Schenn and Novak make 6.25M. Bunting makes 4.5M. I think we had room, but shipping out Desharnais made sure we had extra cap space to make this move. So, maybe Dubas took Desharnais in the VAN trade because he thought he could flip him, nobody offered anything of value, and Dubas was able to acquire another player (Schenn) that he believes he can flip for a better pick, like a 2nd or 3rd.

I dunno. Wanting to see how this all plays out.
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That is an insanely **** trade. It's bad enough on it's face and then you ADD a 4th? Jesus Christ what a joke. Not at all impressed by KD at this point. Unless there is some incomprehensible way this move is 4d chess that is somehow better than straight up moving Bunting in a better deal.... can't imagine how though.
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Michael74 wrote: Wed Mar 05, 2025 9:05 pm
Puck-Lurker wrote: Wed Mar 05, 2025 9:02 pm
EndO FanEra wrote: Wed Mar 05, 2025 9:01 pm
Puck-Lurker wrote: Wed Mar 05, 2025 8:53 pm
thehockeyguru wrote: Wed Mar 05, 2025 8:51 pm


Novak is 28 in April. More LW than C. Not a big fan of this
We're paying a 4th rounder for the privilege of this...?!

Whiffed big time if this sticks and nothing further is done with this.
Yeah, really hope there's something else attached to that deal. I wouldn't expect Shenn to be here long, so I hate the fact that we somehow managed to get softer and easier to play against.
Nope, this is it. Bunting + 4th for Novak and Schenn and I hate it lol
Don't you think you should wait a few hours before concluding anything. I feel very confident in saying we aren't done yet.
Don't have to see the entire chess game to call out a bad move.

But I'll happily see wait and see where this goes, I'm not encouraged thusfar
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So, Bunting is out and Rakell is likely gone too. Maybe we can get Doughty and a 4th back for Rakell and the Ranger's first.
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I’m not sure the hate on these deals today.

Yesterday we had:

Desjardins & Bunting

Today we have:

Schenn & Novack and a 4th and 5th rd pick.

Not one player mentioned above is critical as we rebuild or retool. So does it really matter much what it does this year or even next? We suck and will continue to as we should

From an on ice side we obviously didn’t upgrade or move the needle but we didn’t down grown much either and got younger in Novack who’s easier to flip next year. And we got two picks and Luke Schenn can be flipped for a 3rd as he as more value the Desjardins.

I think this is more than decent asset management
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BlackNGold4Life wrote: Wed Mar 05, 2025 9:08 pm
I’m not sure the hate on these deals today.

Yesterday we had:

Desjardins & Bunting

Today we have:

Schenn & Novack and a 4th and 5th rd pick.

Not one player mentioned above is critical as we rebuild or retool. So does it really matter much what it does this year or even next? We suck and will continue to as we should

From an on ice side we obviously didn’t upgrade or move the needle but we didn’t down grown much either and got younger in Novack who’s easier to flip next year. And we got two picks and Luke Schenn can be flipped for a 3rd as he as more value the Desjardins.

I think this is more than decent asset management
No we sent OUT the 4th. Didn't add one.
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We have enough veterans on this team. No need to keep Schenn around for veteran leadership stuff.
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Puck-Lurker wrote: Wed Mar 05, 2025 9:00 pm


I hate it
I’ll second that!
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BlackNGold4Life wrote: Wed Mar 05, 2025 9:08 pm
I’m not sure the hate on these deals today.

Yesterday we had:

Desjardins & Bunting

Today we have:

Schenn & Novack and a 4th and 5th rd pick.

Not one player mentioned above is critical as we rebuild or retool. So does it really matter much what it does this year or even next? We suck and will continue to as we should

From an on ice side we obviously didn’t upgrade or move the needle but we didn’t down grown much either and got younger in Novack who’s easier to flip next year. And we got two picks and Luke Schenn can be flipped for a 3rd as he as more value the Desjardins.

I think this is more than decent asset management
We traded a 4th
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BlackNGold4Life wrote: Wed Mar 05, 2025 9:08 pm
I’m not sure the hate on these deals today.

Yesterday we had:

Desjardins & Bunting

Today we have:

Schenn & Novack and a 4th and 5th rd pick.

Not one player mentioned above is critical as we rebuild or retool. So does it really matter much what it does this year or even next? We suck and will continue to as we should

From an on ice side we obviously didn’t upgrade or move the needle but we didn’t down grown much either and got younger in Novack who’s easier to flip next year. And we got two picks and Luke Schenn can be flipped for a 3rd as he as more value the Desjardins.

I think this is more than decent asset management
Technically:
Desjardins & Bunting And a 4th
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Antonio wrote: Wed Mar 05, 2025 9:09 pm
BlackNGold4Life wrote: Wed Mar 05, 2025 9:08 pm
I’m not sure the hate on these deals today.

Yesterday we had:

Desjardins & Bunting

Today we have:

Schenn & Novack and a 4th and 5th rd pick.

Not one player mentioned above is critical as we rebuild or retool. So does it really matter much what it does this year or even next? We suck and will continue to as we should

From an on ice side we obviously didn’t upgrade or move the needle but we didn’t down grown much either and got younger in Novack who’s easier to flip next year. And we got two picks and Luke Schenn can be flipped for a 3rd as he as more value the Desjardins.

I think this is more than decent asset management
No we sent OUT the 4th. Didn't add one.
We will probably get several picks for Gryz and Beauvillier and Acciari by Friday. Have to play it all out. Schenn they can also get futures for. Board is getting fired up over a 4th round pick. We have a bazillion picks already.
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So we traded our leading PP goal scorer for what?
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Yeah, I don't see the point of the deal for Novak and Schenn. Neither is young (Schenn is much older obviously), cheap, or all that good. Novak might be a decent 3C, but Lizotte probably would be around the same level as him if Sullivan played him there.

Edit: Looking at Novak's stats from the last couple years and not just this one, maybe it looks more ok. He had over 40 points in each of the last 2 seasons and 17 and 18 goals, respectively. That's probably better numbers than Lizotte would put up at 3C. Maybe Novak is just having a down year this year, like most everyone else on the Preds.